Power of the Internet brings teenage hoodlum to justice - but is the punishment enough?

[Bluespunk]

I think expelling and goaling are exactly what he deserves. Who cares if his life keeps going down som na naw. Put him with the rest of the low life,s. Why waste time treating him.Make an example of him or how many times will this be repeated in the future by others who see they can do it with out punishment.

I care if his life keeps getting worse.

He's 14 and you want to just abandon him, give up on him? How is he ever going to turn his life around with that sort of appalling attitude.

In the long term helping him benefits society as a whole, the fewer adults we have trapped in cycles of violence, punishment, more violence and crime the better for us all.

At 14 he can be helped and any society that cannot see or do that is one that is storing up further problems for the future.

some people,like my neighbours son, are just born bad,they cant be helped,ultimately he will kill someone. Even the neighbours mother of her wayward son with multiple indictments since he was 12 (he is now16) rues the day he was born,he has cost the parents a fortune in fines,nothing seems to help,he is just bad to the bone.

No one is born bad.

Children can be helped if they are troubled, but it's hard work and takes time and dedication.

However if a real effort isn't made to help them when they are young then they will continue in their anti social behaviour.

True it doesn't always work, but if no effort is made to help children then they will become troubled adults.

[Khon Kaen Dave]

What a load of b#llix this brat has been brought up to believe that he can do anything he likes to who ever he likes and the law will never apply to him.How can the school change his attitude.? He is a thug in the making.The school has said that they will try to make him understand. the real reason is that the parents have probably paid a shit load of money for the school to keep him there as no other school wants him.I think its the parents that need attitude adjustment.This child from hell will be fit for nothing except a future prime minister,chief of police,or a judge.I dont believe in corporal punishment for children,and when i was teaching,i refused to administer it,but in this case i would gladly wield the cane.

[Bluespunk]

What a load of b#llix this brat has been brought up to believe that he can do anything he likes to who ever he likes and the law will never apply to him.How can the school change his attitude.? He is a thug in the making.The school has said that they will try to make him understand. the real reason is that the parents have probably paid a shit load of money for the school to keep him there as no other school wants him.I think its the parents that need attitude adjustment.This child from hell will be fit for nothing except a future prime minister,chief of police,or a judge.I dont believe in corporal punishment for children,and when i was teaching,i refused to administer it,but in this case i would gladly wield the cane.

Then it is a good thing you are no longer working with children.

[Strangebrew]

The proper thing to do is take out a leather belt drop his pants and give him a proper arse whopping then expel his sorry arse, he can learn in prison from Somchai And crew As they tear up his butt every day.

[Happy Grumpy]

His parents must be local somebodies.

I'm guessing this boy is future police, or local authority in a government position.

[Bluespunk]

The proper thing to do is take out a leather belt drop his pants and give him a proper arse whopping then expel his sorry arse, he can learn in prison from Somchai And crew As they tear up his butt every day.

He is a child of 14 years. I find it worrying you are so obsessed with his arse.

[SOTIRIOS]

.....too many of these monsters around.....

[seahorse]

No one is born bad.

Children can be helped if they are troubled, but it's hard work and takes time and dedication.

However if a real effort isn't made to help them when they are young then they will continue in their anti social behaviour.

True it doesn't always work, but if no effort is made to help children then they will become troubled adults.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2141160/Born-bad-Rapists-psychopathic-murderers-physically-different-brains-normal-people.html

Psychopaths have different brains to normal people - and current 'therapies' for killers may be useless

[Bluespunk]

No one is born bad.

Children can be helped if they are troubled, but it's hard work and takes time and dedication.

However if a real effort isn't made to help them when they are young then they will continue in their anti social behaviour.

True it doesn't always work, but if no effort is made to help children then they will become troubled adults.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2141160/Born-bad-Rapists-psychopathic-murderers-physically-different-brains-normal-people.html

Psychopaths have different brains to normal people - and current 'therapies' for killers may be useless

From the article you posted a link to

''While cognitive and behavourial treatments may benefit people with anti-social personality disorders''

I have already said therapy doesn't always work, in the post you quote.

However the fact is that this child should be helped, not physically punished, not expelled, not gaoled.

Unless the effort is made now, he will only get worse.

Edited July 16, 2016 by Bluespunk

[jerojero]

NOT expelling him will avoid further social problems? Will indeed! What's to stop repeated behavior and other students copying that kind of behavior? Simply cannot understand Thai reasoning.

[BigFun]

Boot camp for this little toe rag...was a bit wayward myself at his age...if only had a little discipline it might have helped...channel that anger into something productive...spare the rod spoil the child in some cases...

Edited July 16, 2016 by BigFun

[berybert]

NOT expelling him will avoid further social problems? Will indeed! What's to stop repeated behavior and other students copying that kind of behavior? Simply cannot understand Thai reasoning.

Finally a common sense post. Boy A hate a teacher and would love to whoop teachers ass. But boy A doesnt because he is scared of what might happen to him.

Boy A now knows nothing will happen to him, so sees no problem in whooping teacher ass.

But thats ok because he can be helped also, and how does he get help ? by being allowed to carry on as if nothing has happened.

[Bluespunk]

He does need counseling and a good caning in front of the entire student body.

At least 50 lashes Singapore style would give him something to remember.

Violence won't work.

Not violence. Punishment. The only language these spoiled brads understand.

And yes, it does work.

Physical punishment is violence.

And, no, it doesn't work.

[cyberfarang]

The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated.

He's 14, probably failing in school if his age and year group are as reported, obviously has emotional and anger issues. Expelling and gaoling him will not help.

I agree probation is a waste of time. What he needs is a programme aimed at developing behaviour management strategies and giving him learning support.

However is he going to get this? I have my doubts.

Come on, you`re having a laugh, are you not?

When excuses are made for these thugs and they get off with just a slap on the wrist, then there are no deterrents to convince then to reform their behaviors. This is not just a mischievous teen, he is a hardened thug with psychotic tendencies that has the potential to kill. His next attack on someone else could be fatal.

I guess his father could be police or someone affluent and well connected and why this thug got off so lightly.

[Bluespunk]

The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated.

He's 14, probably failing in school if his age and year group are as reported, obviously has emotional and anger issues. Expelling and gaoling him will not help.

I agree probation is a waste of time. What he needs is a programme aimed at developing behaviour management strategies and giving him learning support.

However is he going to get this? I have my doubts.

Come on, you`re having a laugh, are you not?

When excuses are made for these thugs and they get off with just a slap on the wrist, then there are no deterrents to convince then to reform their behaviors. This is not just a mischievous teen, he is a hardened thug with psychotic tendencies that has the potential to kill. His next attack on someone else could be fatal.

I guess his father could be police or someone affluent and well connected and why this thug got off so lightly.

He's 14. He needs help. I haven't said he should be let off with a "slap on the wrist" and am confused as to why you seem to think I am advocating this.

Equally please point out where I have made any excuses for his behaviour.

He's not a thug, by the sounds of things he is a deeply disturbed child who needs help. If he doesn't get that then he could well become a thug.

[PatOngo]

The little shit needs to be sat down and seriously pointed at ....... the more pointers the better .... maybe then he will realize the seriousness of his actions!

[neverdie]

"Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave."

Ok, I actually agree with that course of action. It is indeed the best way to help the boy and society in the long term.

However, how are they going to do this? Probation won't help. The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development.

Is he going to get this?

"he boy requires counselling"

he needs a really strong attitude adjustment

What about a boot camp?

Boot camp is a great idea.

This sort of thing NEVER happened when I was a lad at school. But over the years, the 'Doo-gooders' came in with their softly, softly approach and suggested that children cannot be displined. Now we have little turds attempting to kill their teachers.

Great stuff.

This child needs a firm guiding hand to direct him forward, although at 14 the time has almost passed for that and his evil ways may not be able to be corrected. Well done, 'Doo-gooders'!

[neverdie]

The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated.

He's 14, probably failing in school if his age and year group are as reported, obviously has emotional and anger issues. Expelling and gaoling him will not help.

I agree probation is a waste of time. What he needs is a programme aimed at developing behaviour management strategies and giving him learning support.

However is he going to get this? I have my doubts.

Come on, you`re having a laugh, are you not?

When excuses are made for these thugs and they get off with just a slap on the wrist, then there are no deterrents to convince then to reform their behaviors. This is not just a mischievous teen, he is a hardened thug with psychotic tendencies that has the potential to kill. His next attack on someone else could be fatal.

I guess his father could be police or someone affluent and well connected and why this thug got off so lightly.

He's 14. He needs help. I haven't said he should be let off with a "slap on the wrist" and am confused as to why you seem to think I am advocating this.

Equally please point out where I have made any excuses for his behaviour.

He's not a thug, by the sounds of things he is a deeply disturbed child who needs help. If he doesn't get that then he could well become a thug.

No, he's not a thug but he's working steadily at becoming one. He now has a rap sheet, his parents and the civil libertarian types must be so proud.

[neverdie]

He does need counseling and a good caning in front of the entire student body.

At least 50 lashes Singapore style would give him something to remember.

Violence won't work.

Not violence. Punishment. The only language these spoiled brads understand.

And yes, it does work.

Physical punishment is violence.

And, no, it doesn't work.

It's funny though, when I went to school the odd caning here and there worked well, never saw this sort of behaviour back then, so how does that get explained.

The softly softly approach DEFINATELY isn't working.

[gandalf12]

"Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave."

Ok, I actually agree with that course of action. It is indeed the best way to help the boy and society in the long term.

However, how are they going to do this? Probation won't help. The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development.

Is he going to get this?

He doesnt need probation he needs sorting out followed by some rest and recreation time in the local hospital. He is a thug in the making and will never change.

Not with the closed mind set you espouse.

You can condone his actions and make excuses that he has mental problems but I dont have a closed mind but a realistic one. You seem to live on cloud 9. A thug is a thug and nothing will change them.

[BadBouy]

"Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave."

Ok, I actually agree with that course of action. It is indeed the best way to help the boy and society in the long term.

However, how are they going to do this? Probation won't help. The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development.

Is he going to get this?

He doesnt need probation he needs sorting out followed by some rest and recreation time in the local hospital. He is a thug in the making and will never change.

Not with the closed mind set you espouse.

Were you looking in the mirror when you typed this?

[gemguy]

Hmmm...what should be the punishment????

I think this story could be combined with the crocodile farm story.

The Crocodile farm could be used as an effective means of attitude adjustment.

While the boy is bound with rope and hung suspended over the hungry and excited crocodiles he would be asked: Which will it be young man this or you amend your ways...your decision son.....

Just for example......

Cheers

[HOOD Robin]

Let him return to school,without punishment,and he will

probably kill a teacher or someone else,another spoilt

mummys boy,who has never been taught how to behave.

regards worgeordie

You hit the nail right there mate !

Give him to the (male) family members of the victim who have the same age as that culprit... He will get his lesson !!

That school director is a JOKE ! (like so many official authorities in TH...)

[Dodgydownunder]

Thai class system at work here to try to protect this little prick. As some posters have suggested, probably the son of a senior policeman or government official. Presents a good case for post natal abortion IMHO. Parents should be charged with negligent parenting.

Edited July 17, 2016 by Dodgydownunder

[LannaGuy]

thugs rarely become anything different and the schools compassion will be interpreted as weakness by the bully

[tuanku]

"Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave."

Ok, I actually agree with that course of action. It is indeed the best way to help the boy and society in the long term.

However, how are they going to do this? Probation won't help. The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development.

Is he going to get this?

The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development.

So true, but in all likelihood not available in his local area, and possibly not available in Thailand at all.

Depending on the nature of his family life, and the extent of his anger management issues, it is possible he would best benefit by being removed to a secure educational establishment with the right kind of support to give him chance to become a more productive human being. I have never heard of anything like this in Thailand, and as many posters have pointed out, the environment he is currently in seems to have no way to help him. In Thailand as a whole there must be thousands of kids like him.

From http://www.unicef.org/thailand/protection_14932.htm

In Thailand, the issue of juvenile delinquency is a growing problem. Major issues include:

• The minimum age of criminal responsibility is just 10 years of age, which is lower than the internationally accepted minimum age of 12 years old. This means children as young as 10 years old can be charged with a crime and sentenced to detention centres.

• Limited alternatives to the detention of children.

• Overcrowded conditions, both in Juvenile Observation and Protection Centres and in Juvenile Training Centres. In May 2011, there were about 3,600 children being held in Juvenile Observation and Protection Centres, and 6,900 children in Juvenile Training Centres. In addition, children who committed minor offenses, such as shoplifting, are being housed together with children who have committed serious offenses, such as murder.

[LannaGuy]

I think expelling and goaling are exactly what he deserves. Who cares if his life keeps going down som na naw. Put him with the rest of the low life,s. Why waste time treating him.Make an example of him or how many times will this be repeated in the future by others who see they can do it with out punishment.

I care if his life keeps getting worse.

He's 14 and you want to just abandon him, give up on him? How is he ever going to turn his life around with that sort of appalling attitude.

In the long term helping him benefits society as a whole, the fewer adults we have trapped in cycles of violence, punishment, more violence and crime the better for us all.

At 14 he can be helped and any society that cannot see or do that is one that is storing up further problems for the future.

some people,like my neighbours son, are just born bad,they cant be helped,ultimately he will kill someone. Even the neighbours mother of her wayward son with multiple indictments since he was 12 (he is now16) rues the day he was born,he has cost the parents a fortune in fines,nothing seems to help,he is just bad to the bone.

No one is born bad.

Children can be helped if they are troubled, but it's hard work and takes time and dedication.

However if a real effort isn't made to help them when they are young then they will continue in their anti social behaviour.

True it doesn't always work, but if no effort is made to help children then they will become troubled adults.

I can't agree with this... some just ARE born bad and some are born beautiful and some compassionate you cannot make friends with a snake you just get bitten!

[lostmebike]

As per usual, most postets know diddly squat about the situation and those concerned.

My wife's cousin is a teacher at the school in question and has been sharing the news with all and sundry for days now.

Aswell as telling the wife the exact story, she's also been regularly updating her too. Apparently after news channels got hold of the story, the director went awol for a few days. He then called a meeting asking teachers not to talk to reporters. Some say he fears investigation...wonder why that is.

And all those saying the lad in question shouldn't be excluded should understand that this lad not only beat a senior teacher in front of the school at assembly resulting in the vice director falling and hitting his head on concrete which in turn lead to a blod clot on the brain but the lad and his friends are openly boasting on social media how the teacher deserved it and how he'd do it again! The lad is obviously out of control and needs to see consequence.

From what the wife and i are told, the director is very weak and staff have lost all respect for him. This is only his second term there too!

[ScotBkk]

should be thrashed in front of the whole School

Yes, I agree

With a nailed club for good measure !!

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[Bluespunk]

"Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave."

Ok, I actually agree with that course of action. It is indeed the best way to help the boy and society in the long term.

However, how are they going to do this? Probation won't help. The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development.

Is he going to get this?

He doesnt need probation he needs sorting out followed by some rest and recreation time in the local hospital. He is a thug in the making and will never change.

Not with the closed mind set you espouse.

You can condone his actions and make excuses that he has mental problems but I dont have a closed mind but a realistic one. You seem to live on cloud 9. A thug is a thug and nothing will change them.

A: I'm not condoning anything. Please point out where I have condoned this boys actions, be specific.

B: He certainly does have issues and needs help overcoming them. If this help is not given his anti-social behaviour will continue.

C: What you call realistic is a closed mind set as evidenced by your final sentence.

D: Hilarious that you contradict yourself this way.