thai3 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 2012 vios that only does about 4k a year. Mrs reckons it will be ok after last oil change a year ago for another 20k. Toyota say 10k for synthetic but that would take years to do, surely the time and heat are factors as well? My inclination is to have it changed yearly regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Yes, oil should be changed yearly if the vehicle is not driven often. Is the vehxile driven for short distances when it is driven or for long trips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 short runs- about 10k a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I believe after a while the oil "oxidises" or undergoes some form of chemical degradation and looses some of it's lubrication properties so probably a good idea to change it - you could always Google this on an oil company site or an oil forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) Toyota will have a recommendation for yhe Vios that will include both km and months. Time interval of 6 to 9 months is common. Best to follow Toyota's advice unless the OP gets better info, (unlikely). Engine oil and filters are cheap insurance. Edited August 2, 2016 by Jitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Today new oils are very advanced along with engines changing oil at 1 year intervals doing 4k a year IMHO it will be fine. Our Yaris 2008 does about 8k a year has been fine changing oil & filter every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 On 8/3/2016 at 1:58 PM, Kwasaki said: Today new oils are very advanced along with engines changing oil at 1 year intervals doing 4k a year IMHO it will be fine. Our Yaris 2008 does about 8k a year has been fine changing oil & filter every year. Have a look at the figures quoted for the Ford EcoSport. Seems to be quoting 30,000 kilometres between changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 See attached EcoSport E20.docx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) 51 minutes ago, overherebc said: See attached EcoSport E20.docx With company cars l use to do high mileage in Uk and change every 12000 miles ( 19200 kilos ). Any petrol engine car l had even if it was a Ford EcoSport here in Thailand l'd still change oil and filter once a year or the kilos were at the recommended change, dunno about 30000 k though, would make keep checking the oil dipstick for the no good smell. Edited August 7, 2016 by Kwasaki additional comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs2 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 All my diesel mercs back in uk did about 20000 miles between services, they have a devise that checks the oil and tells you when it needs changing, it works great, when you top it up with a litre between changes the mileage advances, very cleaver?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Ive never had a car without a handbook. Its so simple if you can read. Change Oil at whatever distance they state, or whatever time they state. QED. So simple, why make a fuss about nothing...even my Mrs doesn't ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonsalviz Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 My Ford PU says 15,000 km or 9 months. We will never make 15,000 in 9 months. Long distance should equate to longer periods between oil changes. Short trips, I would think, require more frequent oil changes. Say 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 On 8/7/2016 at 2:48 AM, Ace of Pop said: Ive never had a car without a handbook. Its so simple if you can read. Change Oil at whatever distance they state, or whatever time they state. QED. So simple, why make a fuss about nothing...even my Mrs doesn't ask. Ours is in Thai, asked for one in English but never got it. Service today, oil change and something to do with the exhaust done, cleaned it inside and out and steam cleaned the fabric seats- 1240 baht. Must have scoffed 240 baht of the cakes, bikkies and coffee etc while waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franky Bear Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Oil is cheap as chips. An oil change is peanuts in Thailand. Do it every 2,500 Km. The heat and moisture damages the oil. Like lads have rightly said the oils now are great, but we live somewhere that has cheap labour and parts (the oil in this case) so changing it every 2,500Km isn't going to break the bank and it keeps your engine happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) On 8/10/2016 at 8:34 PM, Franky Bear said: Oil is cheap as chips. An oil change is peanuts in Thailand. Do it every 2,500 Km. The heat and moisture damages the oil. Like lads have rightly said the oils now are great, but we live somewhere that has cheap labour and parts (the oil in this case) so changing it every 2,500Km isn't going to break the bank and it keeps your engine happy. My engines been happy at 16000 Km per change for the last 8 years twice per year PTT's finest Edited August 11, 2016 by kartman more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 14 hours ago, Franky Bear said: Oil is cheap as chips. An oil change is peanuts in Thailand. Do it every 2,500 Km. The heat and moisture damages the oil. Like lads have rightly said the oils now are great, but we live somewhere that has cheap labour and parts (the oil in this case) so changing it every 2,500Km isn't going to break the bank and it keeps your engine happy. You are on the right track there ...if it takes you a year or so to do those 2500kms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franky Bear Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 4 hours ago, JAS21 said: You are on the right track there ...if it takes you a year or so to do those 2500kms I'm a senior mechanical engineer mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franky Bear Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 7 hours ago, kartman said: My engines been happy at 16000 Km per change for the last 8 years twice per year PTT's finest haha. it hasn't really...and PTT...ouch! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 23 minutes ago, Franky Bear said: I'm a senior mechanical engineer mate Well we may have something in common after all ... all my working live has been in Operation and Maintenance of Power Generation plant with turbine sizes ranging from 30MWs up to 660MWs. My last job was commissioning and early operation of a CCGT Power Station on the River Thames. So I too know a little about oils and also the optimisation of oil change frequency. I can also remember my father changing his car engine oil after something like 500miles. Today many big trucks stretch their oil changes to periods well in excess of 25000 miles. The 5-series BMW that I had when I first came to Thailand, after service showed the next oil change due after 30,000Kms. And driven 'normally' wouldn't drop to below 25,000kms when the require service was indicated. Yes ... engines ... oils ... build quality ... oil filtration etc has improve massively over the years resulting in very extended oil change periods. There is now no advantage in adding 'anything' to a top quality motor oil. But yes ... change your oil and oil filter every 2500kms if you wish, the only harm will be to your pocket ... if it makes you happy ... fine. enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy Joe Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Franky Bear said: I'm a senior mechanical engineer mate Hmm ... it seems that your forming is a little dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franky Bear Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 38 minutes ago, JAS21 said: Well we may have something in common after all ... all my working live has been in Operation and Maintenance of Power Generation plant with turbine sizes ranging from 30MWs up to 660MWs. My last job was commissioning and early operation of a CCGT Power Station on the River Thames. So I too know a little about oils and also the optimisation of oil change frequency. I can also remember my father changing his car engine oil after something like 500miles. Today many big trucks stretch their oil changes to periods well in excess of 25000 miles. The 5-series BMW that I had when I first came to Thailand, after service showed the next oil change due after 30,000Kms. And driven 'normally' wouldn't drop to below 25,000kms when the require service was indicated. Yes ... engines ... oils ... build quality ... oil filtration etc has improve massively over the years resulting in very extended oil change periods. There is now no advantage in adding 'anything' to a top quality motor oil. But yes ... change your oil and oil filter every 2500kms if you wish, the only harm will be to your pocket ... if it makes you happy ... fine. enjoy 350 baht a change. I'll eat tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franky Bear Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Just now, happy Joe said: Hmm ... it seems that your forming is a little dated. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 27 minutes ago, Franky Bear said: 350 baht a change. I'll eat tonight My apologies ... I completely mis-understood ... 350 Baht for 5 Ltrs of oil, an oil filter and labour then maybe 2500kms is about right. By the way what colour was the oil and ... did it come in a pop bottle ........... only joking .............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 For any of you who are bored or just want a light read ... Machinery Lubrication Magazine is free ... many interesting articles and you can look at all the back issues..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary A Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) Ford Focus petrol engine. Once a year or 10,000 kilometers. Isuzu diesel. Every six months or 15,000 kilometers. ADDED - a new oil filter every service. Edited August 12, 2016 by Gary A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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