manarak Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, JImH2O said: Or - Brainwashed Swiss converted to Islam, like that nutcase in Canada who got capped a few days ago. AAAAAND.... it's Islam ah yes, I forgot to include that 3rd caveat. Edited August 14, 2016 by manarak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, simple1 said: Is it correct that until a person is charged with an offence/s their name is not released to the media? it's not that important if the name is released by authorities or not. I'm sure the media know the name already. if the media were doing their work, they would publish it, but they are exercising some sort of holier-than-thou political correctness but they forget what role they have to play in a democracy: journalists and news media should get the facts of public interest out, appeasing everyone is the role of politicians, not of news editors. ... the name must get out now, especially as the murderer has died from his wounds along with his victim. Edited August 14, 2016 by manarak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 The principle of not naming suspects until charged is there mainly to protect the innocent, not, as some here believe, as part of some conspiracy to hide the truth. How would you feel, manarak, if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time and arrested for a crime you did not commit. Only to find on your release without charge that the police had identified you to the media and your name was plastered all over the papers? As it appears this man has now died, no doubt his name will be released in due course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 7by7 said: The principle of not naming suspects until charged is there mainly to protect the innocent, not, as some here believe, as part of some conspiracy to hide the truth. How would you feel, manarak, if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time and arrested for a crime you did not commit. Only to find on your release without charge that the police had identified you to the media and your name was plastered all over the papers? As it appears this man has now died, no doubt his name will be released in due course. maybe you want to familiarize yourself with the concept of "In flagrante delicto". there is no room here for "at the wrong time at the wrong place". EDIT: I agree with you as far as investigations are concerned, where evidence has to be collected first, etc. but not for cases where the murderer has committed his crime in open view for all to see, same as the scumbag Iranian in Munich, same as the scumbag Somali in London, same as the scumbag Germanwings co-pilot "Tomato Andy". There is no point in holding their names back. Edited August 14, 2016 by manarak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 In Europe, or at least most of it, we live in a civilised society with civilised rules and laws which apply to all. Once the authorities start to treat people differently by ignoring the rules and law to appease the media and people like you or because of someone's ethnicity or religion then we are, in my opinion, no better than the terrorists who seek to destroy our society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoakMyDee Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 How's the "Hug a Muslim" campaign working out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 37 minutes ago, 7by7 said: In Europe, or at least most of it, we live in a civilised society with civilised rules and laws which apply to all. Once the authorities start to treat people differently by ignoring the rules and law to appease the media and people like you or because of someone's ethnicity or religion then we are, in my opinion, no better than the terrorists who seek to destroy our society. "people like me" here we are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Crazy, the Swiss authorities don't give out any details. I thought Switzerland is a well develop country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 12 hours ago, MissAndry said: Muslims want to kill/oppress/molest me because I'm a single/independent/liberated/educated woman Tell that to the Muslim "feminists". They are very confusing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 2 hours ago, manarak said: "people like me" here we are... Yes, people like you who cannot tell the difference between in the public interest and of interest to the public. I dare say there are valid operational reasons why the Swiss police have yet to identify either the attacker or his victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 12 hours ago, MissAndry said: White people on a killing spree don't have the agenda of oppression that the Muslim murders all have. Muslims want to kill/oppress/molest me because I'm a single/independent/liberated/educated woman, and it isn't some of them ..... it's all of them. "All of them"? Are you simply making stuff up because it suits your point of view or testing the limits of Rule 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 One victim dead after Swiss train attack ST. GALLEN: -- One woman has died and two remain in a serious condition a day after an attack on a Swiss train. A 34-year-old woman and the 27-year-old suspect died from their injuries, according to police. Five people were wounded when a man attacked passengers with a knife and set fire to the carriage on the train nearing Salez station in northeast Switzerland. “At the moment we are not treating this as a terrorist attack, or as a politically-motivated or xenophobic crime,” explained St Gallen Police spokesman Hanspeter Kruesi. “We have no indications of that. Neither do we have any indications that it was a crime of passion. We have absolutely no information on what the motive might have been. As far as we currently know, he acted alone.” Police are yet to release the suspect’s name, but have identified the man as a Swiss citizen who lived in a neighbouring canton. The police said that the attack did not appear to be directed at a single person and they added, it was unclear if the suspect knew any of the victims. -- © Copyright Euronews 2016-08-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoyai Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 seems whenever they delay releasing a suspects name or have no idea of motive you can be pretty sure he is a mussie jihadi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankerWeams Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Hungarian media have released a photo of the so called Swiss train jihadist. Yes he is as swiss as fried durian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 According to this report: Swiss train attacker and one victim die after horror fire and knife attack: Quote The attacker had "a typical Swiss name and no immigration history", according to police. Off topic posts and replies have been removed, this is not about the recent knife attack in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 A deranged xenophobe or Muhammad Al-brecht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 4 hours ago, TankerWeams said: Hungarian media have released a photo of the so called Swiss train jihadist. Yes he is as swiss as fried durian. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 The attacker is now dead and has been for some time. Still no name. While we don't know the religion and ethnicity of the attacker, if he is a Moslem, it would fit a clear pattern here of the authorities trying to move the focus away from that by hiding the facts from the public. We have seen it in various European countries particularly Germany and Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Morch said: Link? Looking rather more East African perhaps than Swiss to me but that doesn't fit the European govts. agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Briggsy said: Looking rather more East African perhaps than Swiss to me but that doesn't fit the European govts. agendas. It's a fake. Shame on the Hungarian press. They didn't their homework. It tooks 30 seconds to prove this guy on the photo have absolutely nothing to do with the incident in Salez. Edited August 15, 2016 by alocacoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, alocacoc said: It's a fake. Shame on the Hungarian press. They didn't their homework. It tooks 30 seconds to prove this guy on the photo have absolutely to do with the incident in Salez. The info was from a far right media outlet. Edited August 15, 2016 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsycat Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Supposedly he was a young, white Swiss guy. A bit shy, with some mental problems. 27 years old. They are still trying to work out if he knew the woman he attacked, who also died. The other people are still in hospital, including a six year old child. They think it was a crime of passion, that went out of hand. That pic above, is not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoakMyDee Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 What does it matter what colour he was? Muslims come in all shapes, sizes, colours and countries. There was a Canadian Muslim terrorist who was gunned down the other day when he detonated a bomb in a taxi. He was white and born in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 7 hours ago, ChoakMyDee said: What does it matter what colour he was? Muslims come in all shapes, sizes, colours and countries. There was a Canadian Muslim terrorist who was gunned down the other day when he detonated a bomb in a taxi. He was white and born in Canada. Despite there being ZERO evidence to point to this being anything remotely related to Islamic terrorism, you continue to cling to the hope that there might be some hidden islamic connection. All the other right-wingnuts have abandoned this thread now it is becoming increasingly clear that the Gods of the Daily Mail have ignored their plaintive cries to appease them with a verified shout of Alluah Akhbar. Maybe time for you to do the same? There are 60 murders a day in Europe. If you call them all as ISIS related, eventually you might get your wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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