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Energy Min affirms reliance on fuel for power production to go down

 

BANGKOK, 9 September 2016 (NNT) – The Ministry of Energy has indicated a possibility for the country’s power generation to rely less on fossil fuel by 6 percent in the next 20 years, thanks to more use of renewable energy. 

At the Energy Symposium 2016 organized by the Institute of Industrial Energy, Federation of Thai Industries, Energy Minister Gen Anantaporn Kanchanarat pointed out that the utilization of renewable energy for electricity production will pick up steadily in the future while coal will continue to be a major source of power due to its low cost. As a result, he said fossil fuel will gradually be phased out, believing its use in power plants will decrease from the current 82 percent to 76 percent in 20 years’ time. 

In response to proposals that the feed-in tariff paid for electricity generated from renewable energy be reduced to reflect the true production cost, Gen Anantaporn explained that the feed-in tariff is only a median price and does not need to be adjusted as long as the production cost remains stable. 

Meanwhile, Vice Chairman of the Federation of Thai Industries Veerasak Kositpaisal revealed the federation’s policy to support the construction of power plants operating on clean coal technology in a bid to minimize environmental impact and create stability in electricity production. 

 

-- nnt 2016-09-09

[halloween]

Now what was left out.

" The power generated can be sold to the Electrical Generating Authority of Thailand. The feed-in tariff rate will be 5.66 THB/kWh ($0.16/kWh) and span 25 years. "

http://www.pv-magazine.com/news/details/beitrag/800-mw-of-solar-licenses-in-thailand-for-2016_100020318/

 

This exceeds the current domestic rate of B3.3799/kWh. In fact every retail rate except temporary users, which is less than 1% of customers.  http://www.eria.org/events/Power Tariff Structure in Thailand.pdf

 

Expect some "good news" from your supplier in the not so distant future.

[williamgeorgeallen]

6% over the next 20 years. would hope they can do better than that. would wonder if thailand cant produce more ethanol and bio diesel to reduce using so much fossil fuels. solar must be an option here as well. wonder if every roof was made from solar panels what percent of energy needs would be met. perhaps more flooding and droughts will push things along.

[halloween]

1 hour ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

6% over the next 20 years. would hope they can do better than that. would wonder if thailand cant produce more ethanol and bio diesel to reduce using so much fossil fuels. solar must be an option here as well. wonder if every roof was made from solar panels what percent of energy needs would be met. perhaps more flooding and droughts will push things along.

Does this explain some of your questions? You can spend a lot of time and energy for very little gain.

 

As for solar panels on every roof, these are uncontrolled inputs as they can not be controlled by the grid system operators. Part of EGAT's duty is to supply stable voltage and cyclic rate (these are linked) and this becomes more difficult as the percentage of uncontrolled inputs increases.  The megawattage of spinning reserve to compensate for uncontrolled inputs also increases, as does the expense of maintaining spinning reserve. Germany , for one is facing increasing problems from a high percentage of uncontrolled inputs. The latest (?):http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/11/germany-forced-people-to-use-traditional-electricity-to-prevent-green-energy-meltdown/

Note that their fossil fuel usage actually increased in 2015 despite the moves to renewables.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601514/germany-runs-up-against-the-limits-of-renewables/

[Redline]

Wow, lofty goals

[rickudon]

Yes, balance is needed. In Germany's case too much, too soon. Whats needed now is research and investment in Energy storage. Too those who say storing electricity is too expensive, remember photovoltaics were as well 20 years ago. 

 

Thailand's move to renewable power is perhaps overly cautious, but experience shows that with some incentives, renewable power can be swiftly built up if needed. Also Laos potentially has a lot of hydropower to sell.