Jordan: Christian writer on trial for cartoon mocking ISIL is shot dead

[webfact]

Jordan: Christian writer on trial for cartoon mocking ISIL is shot dead

 

 

AMMAN: -- Jordanian Christian writer Nahed Hattar was shot dead on Sunday outside the courthouse where he was standing trial on charges of contempt of religion.

 

He had been arrested last month after sharing a caricature that depicted a bearded man in heaven, smoking in bed with women and ordering God to bring him food and wine.

 

The cartoon was intended to ridicule ISIL fighters’ vision of Paradise but was considered offensive by many conservative Muslim Jordanians. The authorities said he violated the law by sharing the caricature.

 

Hattar, who had apologised and said he didn’t mean to cause offence, was shot by a gunman three times as he prepared to enter court in Amman.

 

Hit in the head, he died later in hospital. For those close to him, feelings are running high.

 

“The Jordanian people must realise the seriousness of this issue,” said Hattar’s friend Dergham Halaseh.

 

“They must unite to fight against the unjust forces that accuse others of being apostates. The government must take a stern stance towards these dark forces. There have been enough crimes committed against our nation, in Yemen, Syria and Iraq. Is that not enough? Jordan can’t handle this. Jordan is suffering from the infiltration of these people who are spreading among us.”

 

The suspected gunman, described as a 49 year old Muslim preacher, was arrested at the scene.

 

Two witnesses said the gunman was wearing a traditional Arab dishashada, worn by ultra conservative Sunni Salafis who adhere to a puritanical version of Islam and shun Western lifestyles.

 

“The law will be strictly enforced on the culprit who did this criminal act and will hit with an iron fist anyone who tries to harm the state of law,” government spokesman Mohammad Momani said.

 

-- © Copyright Euronews 2016-09-26

[simple1]

The murder victim was also openly a supporter of Assad. Living in Jordan he must have known he was a dead man walking.

[SgtRock]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

The murder victim was also openly a supporter of Assad. Living in Jordan he must have known he was a dead man walking.

 

What an absolutely stunning attempt at blame the victim.

 

You are one of the first to shout loud and proud about peoples freedoms and rights to believe what they want to believe.

 

Another killing over a <deleted> cartoon and you try to blame the victim !!

 

No surprise to see who raced to like your post. TV's very own MB.

 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The suspected gunman, described as a 49 year old Muslim preacher, was arrested at the scene.

 

Two witnesses said the gunman was wearing a traditional Arab dishashada, worn by ultra conservative Sunni Salafis who adhere to a puritanical version of Islam and shun Western lifestyles.

 

The only one to blame is the @sshole that shot him on his way to court. A muslim preacher no less and people are scratching their heads why the West has problems. Most of the problems stem from the so called preachers.

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, SgtRock said:

 

What an absolutely stunning attempt at blame the victim.

 

You are one of the first to shout loud and proud about peoples freedoms and rights to believe what they want to believe.

 

Another killing over a <deleted> cartoon and you try to blame the victim !!

 

No surprise to see who raced to like your post. TV's very own MB.

 

 

The only one to blame is the @sshole that shot him on his way to court. A muslim preacher no less and people are scratching their heads why the West has problems. Most of the problems stem from the so called preachers.

What an absolute stunning attempt at wrongly interpreting a post.

 

Btw, want to call me names, at least do so openly in stead of in code.

Edited September 26, 2016 by stevenl

[simple1]

1 minute ago, SgtRock said:

 

What an absolutely stunning attempt at blame the victim.

 

You are one of the first to shout loud and proud about peoples freedoms and rights to believe what they want to believe.

 

Another killing over a <deleted> cartoon and you try to blame the victim !!

 

No surprise to see who raced to like your post. TV's very own MB.

 

 

The only one to blame is the @sshole that shot him on his way to court. A muslim preacher no less and people are scratching their heads why the West has problems. Most of the problems stem from the so called preachers.

 

Get over yourself with uninformed personal attacks. Just stating the obvious for someone making public statements which would make him a target for Sunni extremists in a country such as Jordan.

 

 

[SgtRock]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Get over yourself with uninformed personal attacks. Just stating the obvious for someone making public statements which would make him a target for Sunni extremists in a country such as Jordan.

 

 

 

There is no personal attack in my post. My post is a direct response to your victim blaming.

 

Your post is there for all to read. No ambiguity and no denial in the meaning or context.

 

Please do your usual and report my post. I want a MOD to actually read your initial post. 

 

 

[simple1]

Just now, SgtRock said:

 

There is no personal attack in my post. My post is a direct response to your victim blaming.

 

Your post is there for all to read. No ambiguity and no denial in the meaning or context.

 

Please do your usual and report my post. I want a MOD to actually read your initial post. 

 

 

 

Just goes to show what a twisted mind you have by spinning my post to accuse me of sympathy for extremist motivated murder. Yet another example of the ugliness of those from 'right of centre' and the immense damage they will cause if they ever obtain actionable power.

[SgtRock]

3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Just goes to show what a twisted mind you have by spinning my post to accuse me of sympathy for extremist motivated murder. Yet another example of the ugliness of those from 'right of centre' and the immense damage they will cause if they ever obtain actionable power.

 

You blame the victim for his demise.

 

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

The murder victim was also openly a supporter of Assad. Living in Jordan he must have known he was a dead man walking.

 

Supports Assad

Draws a cartoon mocking ISIS

Is a Christian in Jordan 

 

So he must have known he was a dead man walking.

 

And you have the audacity to say that I have a twisted mind ? Let me say this again for the benefit of you and your bunch of deluded brethern. There is no wriggle room in your initial post. There has been no condemnation by you. According to you it was his own fault as he openly supported Assad. That makes you sick in the head.

 

I also notice that you fail to mention cartoons or the fact that he was a Christian. I have also at times, openly supported Assad, you want to try having a pop at me ? After all, according to you I must be a dead man walking.

[stevenl]

12 minutes ago, SgtRock said:

 

You blame the victim for his demise.

 

 

Supports Assad

Draws a cartoon mocking ISIS

Is a Christian in Jordan 

 

So he must have known he was a dead man walking.

 

And you have the audacity to say that I have a twisted mind ? Let me say this again for the benefit of you and your bunch of deluded brethern. There is no wriggle room in your initial post. There has been no condemnation by you. According to you it was his own fault as he openly supported Assad. That makes you sick in the head.

 

I also notice that you fail to mention cartoons or the fact that he was a Christian. I have also at times, openly supported Assad, you want to try having a pop at me ? After all, according to you I must be a dead man walking.

Just for once read a post for what is said and not for what you think is said.

[Scott]

1 hour ago, SgtRock said:

 

What an absolutely stunning attempt at blame the victim.

 

You are one of the first to shout loud and proud about peoples freedoms and rights to believe what they want to believe.

 

Another killing over a <deleted> cartoon and you try to blame the victim !!

 

No surprise to see who raced to like your post. TV's very own MB.

 

 

The only one to blame is the @sshole that shot him on his way to court. A muslim preacher no less and people are scratching their heads why the West has problems. Most of the problems stem from the so called preachers.

Please keep your remarks civil and on topic.  

 

Inflammatory posting is not going to be tolerated.  

[i claudius]

4 hours ago, simple1 said:

The murder victim was also openly a supporter of Assad. Living in Jordan he must have known he was a dead man walking.

 

You always are if you insult those"peace loving muslims"

Just the sort of thing a Christian priest would have done if a muslim had said something bad about Jesus , i mean they do it all the time ,dont they?

 

Edited September 26, 2016 by i claudius

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, SgtRock said:

 

What an absolutely stunning attempt at blame the victim.

 

You are one of the first to shout loud and proud about peoples freedoms and rights to believe what they want to believe.

 

Another killing over a <deleted> cartoon and you try to blame the victim !!

 

No surprise to see who raced to like your post. TV's very own MB.

 

 

The only one to blame is the @sshole that shot him on his way to court. A muslim preacher no less and people are scratching their heads why the West has problems. Most of the problems stem from the so called preachers.

 

I suspect the murderer may have mental health issues.

[SgtRock]

2 hours ago, SgtRock said:

 

What an absolutely stunning attempt at blame the victim.

 

You are one of the first to shout loud and proud about peoples freedoms and rights to believe what they want to believe.

 

Another killing over a <deleted> cartoon and you try to blame the victim !!

 

No surprise to see who raced to like your post. TV's very own MB.

 

 

The only one to blame is the @sshole that shot him on his way to court. A muslim preacher no less and people are scratching their heads why the West has problems. Most of the problems stem from the so called preachers.

 

1 hour ago, Scott said:

Please keep your remarks civil and on topic.  

 

Inflammatory posting is not going to be tolerated.  

 

 

Trust me. That post was civility personified.

[stevenl]

16 minutes ago, SgtRock said:

 

 

 

Trust me. That post was civility personified.

I'm still waiting for an explanation of MB.

[ClutchClark]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Two witnesses said the gunman was wearing a traditional Arab dishashada, worn by ultra conservative Sunni Salafis who adhere to a puritanical version of Islam and shun Western lifestyles.

 

Note to security forces:

 

When attempting to protect someone from assassination by radical conservative muslims with puritanical views of Islam, be alert to guys wearing an Arab dishashada on the steps of the Courthouse.

 

 

[simple1]

9 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

 

Note to security forces:

 

When attempting to protect someone from assassination by radical conservative muslims with puritanical views of Islam, be alert to guys wearing an Arab dishashada on the steps of the Courthouse.

 

 

 

From my reading the murder victim was not provided with any personal security.

[SgtRock]

38 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

 

Note to security forces:

 

When attempting to protect someone from assassination by radical conservative muslims with puritanical views of Islam, be alert to guys wearing an Arab dishashada on the steps of the Courthouse.

 

 

 

Courthouse in Petra

 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/jordanian-writer-nahed-hattar-killed-outside-court-before-trial-10592705

 

No security 

[Khon Kaen Dave]

Wow! this is getting verbally violent.fed up with it.Nipping next door to the isaan forum for a while,let it all calm down.

[ClutchClark]

1 hour ago, SgtRock said:

 

Courthouse in Petra

 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/jordanian-writer-nahed-hattar-killed-outside-court-before-trial-10592705

 

No security 

 

What are laughing uncontrollably about? 

 

I never suggested there was no security. 

[simple1]

2 hours ago, SgtRock said:

 

Courthouse in Petra

 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/jordanian-writer-nahed-hattar-killed-outside-court-before-trial-10592705

 

No security 

 

 

Yet another comprehension deficit with "NO PERSONAL SECURITY".

[SgtRock]

1 hour ago, ClutchClark said:

 

What are laughing uncontrollably about? 

 

I never suggested there was no security. 

 

Clutchy

 

My apologies, my sarcasm which was not aimed at you went over your head 

[SgtRock]

3 hours ago, SgtRock said:

 

Courthouse in Petra

 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/jordanian-writer-nahed-hattar-killed-outside-court-before-trial-10592705

 

No security 

 

16 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

 

Yet another comprehension deficit with "NO PERSONAL SECURITY".

 

What are you flapping your gums at ?

 

Was my post directed at you ? Did my post mention Personal Security ?

 

It would appear that it is you that has a comprehension deficit. 

 

The photo of the Court house was to show that at the very least security is attempted in the area of the courthouse. 

 

One should expect to be relatively safe in the area of a Courthouse that is fortified and has security personnel in and around the area.  

 

Except of course if you happen to draw a cartoon. Then all bets are off.

[ClutchClark]

26 minutes ago, SgtRock said:

 

Clutchy

 

My apologies, my sarcasm which was not aimed at you went over your head 

 

Right over the top.

 

I had just woken from a nap. 

[Morch]

12 hours ago, simple1 said:

The murder victim was also openly a supporter of Assad. Living in Jordan he must have known he was a dead man walking.

 

10 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Get over yourself with uninformed personal attacks. Just stating the obvious for someone making public statements which would make him a target for Sunni extremists in a country such as Jordan.

 

 

 

A poor choice of words, and off mark as well.

 

Murder, even religiously and politically motivated, is not common in Jordan. Hattar was "anti" a lot of issues, groups, and people - and been this way for years. Wasn't the first time he pissed off someone, got threats or was sued.

 

 

 

 

[Morch]

9 hours ago, SgtRock said:

 

You blame the victim for his demise.

 

 

Supports Assad

Draws a cartoon mocking ISIS

Is a Christian in Jordan 

 

So he must have known he was a dead man walking.

 

And you have the audacity to say that I have a twisted mind ? Let me say this again for the benefit of you and your bunch of deluded brethern. There is no wriggle room in your initial post. There has been no condemnation by you. According to you it was his own fault as he openly supported Assad. That makes you sick in the head.

 

I also notice that you fail to mention cartoons or the fact that he was a Christian. I have also at times, openly supported Assad, you want to try having a pop at me ? After all, according to you I must be a dead man walking.

 

More like born a Christian, identified as an atheist.

[simple1]

51 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

 

A poor choice of words, and off mark as well.

 

Murder, even religiously and politically motivated, is not common in Jordan. Hattar was "anti" a lot of issues, groups, and people - and been this way for years. Wasn't the first time he pissed off someone, got threats or was sued.

 

 

 

I accept your criticism. On the other side of the coin I assume you will agree, the victim's actions put him at very high risk which was compounded by a fatwa issued against him.

[Morch]

33 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

I accept your criticism. On the other side of the coin I assume you will agree, the victim's actions put him at very high risk which was compounded by a fatwa issued against him.

 

I think he was threatened on other occasions in the past. No idea if there was reason to believe that the last threat was more serious than others. You might as well say that being in his line of work put him at risk...

[SgtRock]

2 hours ago, Morch said:

 

More like born a Christian, identified as an atheist.

 

The dead man's religion is of no concern to me.

 

What is a concern to me is that he was executed on the steps of a Courthouse by a nutjob that is described as a religious leader.

 

14 hours ago, webfact said:

The suspected gunman, described as a 49 year old Muslim preacher, was arrested at the scene.

 

If this is the action of a so called Muslim preacher, what is he teaching to his flock of sheep ?

[Steely Dan]

 

I accept your criticism. On the other side of the coin I assume you will agree, the victim's actions put him at very high risk which was compounded by a fatwa issued against him.

If everyone resorted to self-censorship in the face of Islamofascists it only empowers them. It should be incumbent on the state to protect all those brave enough to stand up to them. Here is the offending cartoon, every newspaper in the civilized world should publish it.

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[Opl]

1) Nahed Hattar was a writer, he simply placed on his Facebook wall a cartoon drawn by someone else.  The cartoon,is titled "God of Dawaech",   shows a bearded jihadist on a bed in heaven, surrounded by two women and addressing God as a mere servant

    He explained this cartoon was making fun of "terrorists and how they imagine God and heaven, and it was not meant to offense God."

2) He was accused of inciting sectarian strife "and" insult "to Islam, which prohibits any representation of God, be it is satirical or not

3) so for the court , ISIL = Islam ?

 

 

Edited September 26, 2016 by Opl