Yingluck petitions Gen Prayut for justice against Section 44

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Ms Yingluck petitions Gen Prayut for justice against Section 44

 

 

BANGKOK: -- Former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Monday petitioned Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha protesting against the latter’s invocation of Section 44 of the interim constitution to pave the way for the Legal Execution Department to proceed with confiscating her assets to recoup the massive loss from her government’s rice pledging scheme.

 

In her petition which was petitioned by her lawyer, Mr Noppadol Laothong, Ms Yingluck she was afraid that she might not be accorded justice from the use of the special power to facilitate the seizure of her assets without going through the normal civil proceedings.

 

Last week, the civil liability committee of the Finance Ministry concluded that Ms Yingluck had to bear 20 percent of the financial damage caused by the rice pledging scheme to the state estimated at 35.7 billion baht. The committee’s ruling will be forwarded to the National Anti-Corruption Commission and Prime Minister Prayut for consideration. However, the ex-prime minister is to be formally notified of the panel’s ruling.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ms-yingluck-petitions-gen-prayut-justice-section-44/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-09-27

[Alive]

Anyone Thai or foreign in Thailand can lose their wealth if the regime wants them to. The old Thai power and wealth has been after this family's wealth since day one. Even before her brother was booted, the money was their issue. As they lose their privileges, they can see those rising in wealth threaten them. In any other nation, they would be wanting to jail someone for a crime first.

[waldroj]

When words fail!

[Yoram]

Those pleas and others similar will fall on deaf ears, as S44 was specially created

to deal with all those hi so ex and current government and business tycoons

that willfully and knowingly caused damage to the country.

[yellowboat]

18 minutes ago, Yoram said:

Those pleas and others similar will fall on deaf ears, as S44 was specially created

to deal with all those hi so ex and current government and business tycoons

that willfully and knowingly caused damage to the country.

Bypassing the courts and due process is never a good idea.  What they are doing to her can be done to anyone else in the country.  The hi-so's are in charge that is why due process has been pushed aside.  It is the Thai citizen's problems that are falling on deaf ears.  Your understanding of the situation is deplorable.

[hawker9000]

56 minutes ago, Alive said:

Anyone Thai or foreign in Thailand can lose their wealth if the regime wants them to. The old Thai power and wealth has been after this family's wealth since day one. Even before her brother was booted, the money was their issue. As they lose their privileges, they can see those rising in wealth threaten them. In any other nation, they would be wanting to jail someone for a crime first.

 

You're joking right?  No different in the U.S. if you're of the wrong political persuasion.  'Never heard of the IRS?  Lawyers holding out hope to those who've had assets frozen, liens imposed, wages garnished, etc., advertise on tv 24/7 and apparently do a land office business.   If EVER there was a shoot-first-pursue-legal niceties-later, stand-and-deliver type outfit, it's the IRS.  And a Congress trying even as we speak to impeach an IRS director for obvious Obamanations on taxpayers who refuse to drink the kool-aid.

 

 

 

[Jimbo2014]

Its like Chicago in the 1930s.  Dirty Polies against the Mafia.  Where are the good guys in this story 

[silent]

1 hour ago, Yoram said:

Those pleas and others similar will fall on deaf ears, as S44 was specially created

to deal with all those hi so ex and current government and business tycoons

that willfully and knowingly caused damage to the country.

Which hi soes' get to decide on the willfulness and intent of those in a narrow field of ex/ current government and business tycoons causing damage to a country.

LBJ, Georgy Bush, Tricky Dicky, Cheney Halliburton and Donny Rumsfeld seem to have done a lot of willful, knowledgeable and deliberate damage causing to a few countries. Their economy's a mess, too many are poor and rioting almost every day now, but what's anybody done to those hi-so SOB's.

Right Nixon got impeached for saying he never lied and inventing the V salute.

[chainarong]

Long term Thai watchers will know that Junta's through the ages have an escape clause to everything mortal , in this case it is the versatile section 44 , former Prime Minister Yingluck is a dilemma to the Junta , they are hell bent on destroying and undermining  the Shinawatra  name  and  fortune  , once they set an example, all the rest will meekly follow , section 44 is for their benefit as well as anyone or anything that  might get in the way.............................................................

[Baerboxer]

3 hours ago, Alive said:

Anyone Thai or foreign in Thailand can lose their wealth if the regime wants them to. The old Thai power and wealth has been after this family's wealth since day one. Even before her brother was booted, the money was their issue. As they lose their privileges, they can see those rising in wealth threaten them. In any other nation, they would be wanting to jail someone for a crime first.

 

Just how did this "special" family get all their wealth?

 

Clue - nothing to do with truth, honesty or justice. The Shins don't want to share the trough, and that is the issue.

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, Jimbo2014 said:

Its like Chicago in the 1930s.  Dirty Polies against the Mafia.  Where are the good guys in this story 

 

Where is Eliot Ness when you need him?

 

Not sure about J.Edgar!

[Baerboxer]

Problem is Yingluck, well her brother's, idea of justice is that the Shins are above and beyond the law and always get found innocent of anything and everything. Anything else just isn't justice in their eyes.

 

I really doubt at times that they even know the meaning of the word.

[Remus1830]

Hope they canconfiscate all his assets due to the billions of losses to the economy due directly to his actions and his alone. 

[SOTIRIOS]

...charged with serious crimes herself.....

 

...duhh....

 

...let's drop them all......

 

...makes sense.....not....only in a pycho world where lies and crime prevail....

 

...oh-oh....

[SOTIRIOS]

....whatever happened to 'gag orders'.....???

 

....***(these charades make one want to gag).....

[williamgeorgeallen]

1 hour ago, chainarong said:

Long term Thai watchers will know that Junta's through the ages have an escape clause to everything mortal , in this case it is the versatile section 44 , former Prime Minister Yingluck is a dilemma to the Junta , they are hell bent on destroying and undermining  the Shinawatra  name  and  fortune  , once they set an example, all the rest will meekly follow , section 44 is for their benefit as well as anyone or anything that  might get in the way.............................................................

yes but there are some here who still think this is about tacking  corruption. hope yingluck has done the same as me by selling everything up and moving it offshore. i just live month to month off a foreign ATM card now. just need to get rid of my pickup before the juanta try to take that.

[elgordo38]

5 hours ago, Alive said:

Anyone Thai or foreign in Thailand can lose their wealth if the regime wants them to. The old Thai power and wealth has been after this family's wealth since day one. Even before her brother was booted, the money was their issue. As they lose their privileges, they can see those rising in wealth threaten them. In any other nation, they would be wanting to jail someone for a crime first.

Yes your right a voice crying out in the wilderness. If she did not whisk her money out of the country well she was truly stupid. She does rather appear to be the Joan of Arc type. The hand writing was on the wall in this case long ago and she had ample opportunity to "Get the hell out of Dodge"  Its laughable to think she would get a fair and honest trial. Yes the Shins had wealth but as the poster above states they were living on the wrong side of the elite track and here of course these uppity people would never be tolerated. Old money trumps new money every time. 

[jamesbrock]

2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

Just how did this "special" family get all their wealth?

 

Clue - nothing to do with truth, honesty or justice. The Shins don't want to share the trough, and that is the issue.

 

2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

Problem is Yingluck, well her brother's, idea of justice is that the Shins are above and beyond the law and always get found innocent of anything and everything. Anything else just isn't justice in their eyes.

 

I really doubt at times that they even know the meaning of the word.

 

Your words can quite easily accurately reflect the current mob as well...

 

"Just how did these "special" army generals get all their wealth?

 

Clue - nothing to do with truth, honesty or justice. The elite don't want to share the trough, and that is the issue."

 

"Problem is the junta, well Prayuth's, idea of justice is that the army is above and beyond the law and always get found innocent of anything and everything. Anything else just isn't justice in their eyes.

 

I really doubt at times that they even know the meaning of the word."

 

As you wrote yesterday, "Difficult to fight corruption when the whole pile is thoroughly corrupt to the core." 

[JAG]

5 hours ago, Yoram said:

Those pleas and others similar will fall on deaf ears, as S44 was specially created

to deal with all those hi so ex and current government and business tycoons

that willfully and knowingly caused damage to the country.

Oh right ho,  and there was me thinking it was created to allow the junta to do just what they wanted without having to bother about what the law or the courts said.....

 

How naive of me.

[KenKadz]

6 hours ago, Yoram said:

Those pleas and others similar will fall on deaf ears, as S44 was specially created

to deal with all those hi so ex and current government and business tycoons

that willfully and knowingly caused damage to the country.

The key is "willfully and knowingly caused damage".

I doubt Yingluck was involved in the daily activities of the rice scheme.

(When the big fish is away, the little fish will eat)

[Dah fahrang]

4 hours ago, chainarong said:

Long term Thai watchers will know that Junta's through the ages have an escape clause to everything mortal , in this case it is the versatile section 44 , former Prime Minister Yingluck is a dilemma to the Junta , they are hell bent on destroying and undermining  the Shinawatra  name  and  fortune  , once they set an example, all the rest will meekly follow , section 44 is for their benefit as well as anyone or anything that  might get in the way.............................................................

Reminds me of my primary school.

Kids messing around, not learning their times tables. Teacher brings out a gym shoe, thrashes the backsides of the 3 kids sat in the front row. Rest of the class of 30 sh***ing themselves. 

[KBsinter]

Will, can 44 be retained by a future Goverment,and used against Military Personell

or is it purely for Coup makers,if as we are led to believe the military will have 

voting rights in the next legal Administration "just asking".

[maxcorrigan]

3 hours ago, KBsinter said:

Will, can 44 be retained by a future Goverment,and used against Military Personell

or is it purely for Coup makers,if as we are led to believe the military will have 

voting rights in the next legal Administration "just asking".

I think that was why the head Honcho gave himself and family, complete amnesty past present and future, i don' know if article 44 can override this amnesty, if used by any, if there is ever any future government. 

[MaiChai]

I suspect the Thai legal system will be too slow and cumbersome to deal with this? Not tomention the legal Shin an igans and appeals. I mean if we go the legal route we will still be reading about the progress of this in 20 years time? Anyhow the PM keeps talking about raising taxes so they clearly need the cash quickly?

[halloween]

8 hours ago, KenKadz said:

The key is "willfully and knowingly caused damage".

I doubt Yingluck was involved in the daily activities of the rice scheme.

(When the big fish is away, the little fish will eat)

Attending the Rice Policy Committee meetings would have been a start. Do you think she was aware that Siam Indica was making a B900,000,000 profit on a single 300,000t G2G rice sale? Should the fact that deal caused a B3,300,000,000 loss for the Thai people have concerned her, perhaps enough to take another look at her policy? 

[tomta]

Halloween, do you have a source for that last statement you made about the B900,000,000 profit?