still awaiting clarification on when real stops and hoax begins Ah yes, the “everything is fake but somehow still works perfectly” school of thought. Always a classic. Let me get this straight: the Apollo 11 Moon Landing—along with every other Apollo mission—was a hoax… but also every modern lunar programme, including Artemis program and China’s Chang'e program, are hoaxes too. The launchings and lead up are real and everything after that is fake? So decades apart, across rival superpowers, with completely different technology stacks… all fake. Coordinated flawlessly. For what, exactly—fun? And we’re meant to believe that thousands of engineers, scientists, contractors, and international tracking stations have all kept this secret for over half a century. Not one credible leak. Not one deathbed confession. Not one rival nation exposing it for the biggest geopolitical win in history. Remarkable discipline for a species that can’t even keep a new iPhone secret for a week. The “they just roll out contraptions and drop them in the ocean” line is particularly impressive. Apparently, rockets don’t go up—they just… arc politely out of sight and vanish into a watery grave. Which is awkward, because independent observers across the globe—amateur astronomers, universities, and even hobbyists with radio gear—regularly track spacecraft well beyond “visual range.” But sure, they’re all either in on it or too dim to notice. Convenient. Also, the idea that “no rocket follows a vertical trajectory” isn’t the mic-drop moment it’s imagined to be. Rockets launch vertically and then pitch over—because that’s how you achieve orbit instead of just going straight up and falling back down. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s basic physics. So we’re left with a choice between two explanations: Tens of thousands of people across multiple countries and generations are engaged in a perfectly executed, motive-free deception that has never slipped. The Moon landings—and ongoing space missions—are exactly what they appear to be. If the hoax theory has a clear boundary—where reality ends and the fakery begins—now would be a great time to hear it. Because at the moment, it’s less a theory and more a blanket assertion that anything inconvenient must be fake… which isn’t scepticism, it’s just denial dressed up as insight or cynicism used to cover ingorance