webfact Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Court rejects second bail attempt by redshirt leader Jatuporn BANGKOK: -- The Criminal Court has rejected a second bail attempt by Jatuporn Phromphan with reason that his bail has been revoked just two weeks ago. His lawyer Winyat Chartmontri told reporters that he has sought bail for temporary release for Jatuporn, leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) from the Criminal Court after his client had spent 15 days in the prison after his bail was revoked on October 11. He said Jatuporn has accepted the legal consequences for breaching the bail conditions after spending 15 days in prison, and promised he would be more cautious not to repeat the same offences if he is granted bail again. He sought mercy from the court for bail, the lawyer said. However the court has replied that as the Criminal Court has just recently revoked his bail on October 11 to prevent further damages to be incurred by his release from prison, there is no reason whatsoever to make any change to the bail revocation right now. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/court-rejects-second-bail-attempt-by-redshirt-leader-jatuporn/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-10-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just keep him in jail until the court-case for terrorism has been completed. Maybe he won't stall this case then now that he has to wait in jail for it to come to conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 He has been repeatedly warned about breaching his bail conditions and he just kept on ignoring the warnings, expecting as usual to be bailed once again. IMHO the courts have got so p1ssed off with they decided that enough was enough. Go directly to jail, do not pass Go or collect your 200 whatever currency and BTW your get out of jail free cards has been cancelled. Oh dear, how sad, never mind. This is a lesson for you and possibly for some of your "friends" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 The next step should be to permanently weld the door to his cell shut. If he spent the rest of his life in prison it would not even start to pay for all the blood on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 " His lawyer Winyat Chartmontri told reporters that he has sought bail for temporary release for Jatuporn, leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) from the Criminal Court after his client had spent 15 days in the prison after his bail was revoked on October 11. " Temporary release: - For what purpose mr. lawyer? - On what grounds would he be entitled to tempoary release mr. lawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This is the guy that said he and his gang would burn the country to the ground right?Key... throw away.Sent from my twisted mind using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Seriously, on the grand scale of crimes against humanity, what has this guy done? ? Make a few speeches, set up up a few meetings, try to at least promote a little bit of oppositional voice. Come on get real. We all know why he's in prison. One of the reasons was he was sarcastic to the powers that be. Half of tv should be in there, if you all agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, greenchair said: Seriously, on the grand scale of crimes against humanity, what has this guy done? ? Make a few speeches, set up up a few meetings, try to at least promote a little bit of oppositional voice. Come on get real. We all know why he's in prison. One of the reasons was he was sarcastic to the powers that be. Half of tv should be in there, if you all agree with that. Read the charges relating to the actual case he was out on bail for. Not so harmless. He was given several warnings about breaching his bail conditions - but like many others thought himself untouchable. Appears he was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 23 minutes ago, greenchair said: Seriously, on the grand scale of crimes against humanity, what has this guy done? ? Make a few speeches, set up up a few meetings, try to at least promote a little bit of oppositional voice. Come on get real. We all know why he's in prison. One of the reasons was he was sarcastic to the powers that be. Half of tv should be in there, if you all agree with that. If you're going to be out on bail for TERRORISM charges, then you bloody well abide by your bail terms. And if that means not being 'sarcastic', then you shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 25 minutes ago, TVGerry said: If you're going to be out on bail for TERRORISM charges, then you bloody well abide by your bail terms. And if that means not being 'sarcastic', then you shut up. Terrorism and national security are terms used very loosely in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 37 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Read the charges relating to the actual case he was out on bail for. Not so harmless. He was given several warnings about breaching his bail conditions - but like many others thought himself untouchable. Appears he was wrong. It says he allegedly was involved in the shooting of seh dang, which is surprising, considering seh dang was helping to oust the again unelected powers. Is it the same case? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I thought I remember him saying when he went to court the other day,he was OK if they revoked his bail,and was happy to go to prison, even brought his packed bag, 15 days later he is crying to be let out,what a <deleted>. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 hours ago, scorecard said: " His lawyer Winyat Chartmontri told reporters that he has sought bail for temporary release for Jatuporn, leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) from the Criminal Court after his client had spent 15 days in the prison after his bail was revoked on October 11. " Temporary release: - For what purpose mr. lawyer? - On what grounds would he be entitled to tempoary release mr. lawyer? My grandmother is in labor prematurely... Works all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Guess who wants desperately to get out and stir a huge pot of sh1t once the bad news had broken. Rot in jail, you animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Cuchulainn said: Guess who wants desperately to get out and stir a huge pot of sh1t once the bad news had broken. Rot in jail, you animal. Harsh words. All he wants is checks and balances in elections and referendums. What are you so afraid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOD Robin Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Cuchulainn said: Guess who wants desperately to get out and stir a huge pot of sh1t once the bad news had broken. Rot in jail, you animal. Sure, this guy should never be released from jail ! i have to puke when i see his face !! And drop that other Red shirt "leader" in the same cell ! i'm talking about that fat ugly female with the glasses who also thought, just like this guy, she was untouchable (forgot her name... Thia or something like that ?). i assume she is hiding in Cambodia as i havent seen her anymore in the news for the past 2 years... Or did she maybe got shelter in Dubai ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 hours ago, webfact said: He sought mercy from the court for bail, the lawyer said. I would like to see a clip of Jatuporn's search for mercy, groveling at the judge's feet. He is still searching for humility and remorse, but looking in all the wrong places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 20 hours ago, greenchair said: It says he allegedly was involved in the shooting of seh dang, which is surprising, considering seh dang was helping to oust the again unelected powers. Is it the same case? ??? Quote "It says he allegedly was involved in the shooting of seh dang, which is surprising, considering seh dang was helping to oust the again unelected powers." Would you be able to say/post/quote who allegedly said that because without that your post is meaningless. Unnamed sources are also meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 21 hours ago, greenchair said: Seriously, on the grand scale of crimes against humanity, what has this guy done? ? Make a few speeches, set up up a few meetings, try to at least promote a little bit of oppositional voice. Come on get real. We all know why he's in prison. One of the reasons was he was sarcastic to the powers that be. Half of tv should be in there, if you all agree with that. The fascists can't see the fascism. And of course, the truth about Thailand can never be discussed. Only one side of the story rules the Thai forums when it comes to some issues. He's certainly not a terrorist by the real world's standards. In the real world, there is fair and open discussion and a better chance of justice. This is Thailand were the truth is not up for criticism or discussion. Some including foreigners believe the lies and propaganda, and others suffer from their apathy and ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 38 minutes ago, billd766 said: Quote "It says he allegedly was involved in the shooting of seh dang, which is surprising, considering seh dang was helping to oust the again unelected powers." Would you be able to say/post/quote who allegedly said that because without that your post is meaningless. Unnamed sources are also meaningless. I looked him up on Wikipedia and that's what it says. The other poster said he is on bail for TERRORISM charges and I should look it up . In my meaningless post I was merely asking if that was the terrorism charge he was referring to, as I could not find another. Next time I'll seek your permission to ask a question since you are so adept and skillful when interpreting the meaning or meanlessness of people's posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, greenchair said: I looked him up on Wikipedia and that's what it says. The other poster said he is on bail for TERRORISM charges and I should look it up . In my meaningless post I was merely asking if that was the terrorism charge he was referring to, as I could not find another. Next time I'll seek your permission to ask a question since you are so adept and skillful when interpreting the meaning or meanlessness of people's posts. Not really. You said something without any references at all. That is about the same as listening to the guy in a bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 51 minutes ago, billd766 said: Not really. You said something without any references at all. That is about the same as listening to the guy in a bar. You took the question Is it the same story?? out of my post which changed its meaning. The original poster would know if it was the same story meaning is it the story about seh dang? ? It didn't need a reference. The question is. ... Is the terrorism charge about seh dang? Since you need a reference, it's in Wikipedia, but it will have no meaning unless the other poster references his story. Which is highly unlikely since you have befuddled the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 22 hours ago, greenchair said: Harsh words. All he wants is checks and balances in elections and referendums. What are you so afraid of. UDD seem the only group that stand by their namesake asking for election and democracy. Whatever happen to the People Democracy for Reform(PDRC) People Alliance for Democracy (PAD) and the worst of the namesake and truly a misnomer, the Democratic Party. What have these groups done for democracy to deserve inclusion in their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 On 26-10-2016 at 3:10 PM, greenchair said: It says he allegedly was involved in the shooting of seh dang, which is surprising, considering seh dang was helping to oust the again unelected powers. Is it the same case? ??? 'greenchair': '...considering seh dang was helping to oust the again unelected powers': hello, where do you come from, where have you been, what have you been told about the facts(!) to write such, erm, 'stuff'!? The 2009/2010, armed insurgency 'mastered' by, IMO, in your(?) opinion maybe 'peacefull demonstration' 'in favour of', ...Thaksin, was organised to re-instate the 'Thaksin power', by ousting a democratic government(!) (with a majority of the democratically elected MPs), like it or not, this is a fact! As for Seh Daeng, the rogue Maj. Gen., he bragged enough in front of the media about his special relationship with Thaksin, and the (3,000?) 'armed guards'(!) he was instructed by him to recruit and train, facts again! At the end of that 'mission', he had, IMO, become a liability for the one(s?) he served so well, ...betraying his oath to his Country, and his King, while doing so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 56 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: UDD seem the only group that stand by their namesake asking for election and democracy. Whatever happen to the People Democracy for Reform(PDRC) People Alliance for Democracy (PAD) and the worst of the namesake and truly a misnomer, the Democratic Party. What have these groups done for democracy to deserve inclusion in their name. They are also the only group to have advocated the burning of Bangkok, using chidren as human shields and the storming of a hospital terrorising sick patients. Yes, Eric. All in the name of democracy; as long as it's their brand of democracy. But but but Suvarnabhumi airport............... .....3 .....2 ....1 ....start rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: UDD seem the only group that stand by their namesake asking for election and democracy. Whatever happen to the People Democracy for Reform(PDRC) People Alliance for Democracy (PAD) and the worst of the namesake and truly a misnomer, the Democratic Party. What have these groups done for democracy to deserve inclusion in their name. Khun Eric, now you're really stretching it about the UDD, even when it's your task to defend that and other Thaksin creations (yes, I know, the red colour was set as a conditio-si-nequa-non by former communist leaders Drs Deng and Tida in order to participate, but...), come on... A Union it might still be, as long as the money (from ...?) keeps flowing in, and the Northern and Eastern parts don't go each their own way, with the differences of opinion they have about how to go ahead. Against Dictatorship probably, well, as long as not by-and-for the 'Shins' Dynasty', that is, ...or even a neo-communist one some of its leaders, still, hope to establish one day... But for Democracy, NO ! This totally created 'movement' never, ever, had, any, tiny, bit of democratical content! And I think you are well placed to know that. So what? Just that fake abused and misuded 'thing' about 'democratical elections', to bring the master and his clan back on top? By rigging elections, buying votes, ...and treathening the population of whole swats of Thai land, recurring to violence against any kind of democratical opposition, and any person daring to have another opinion, of his own, is it? When you would write and speak Korean, I know a country where you would be appreciated for your 'sense' of Union, your 'vision' of Democracy, but you could not be against Dictatorship! Do you practice Korean? Any chance to see you move there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 So what the fat jolly clown said in the past on video, from direct reporting, he didn't actually say, it's all just lies, in your strange world. Good luck with your treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 38 minutes ago, bangrak said: 'greenchair': '...considering seh dang was helping to oust the again unelected powers': hello, where do you come from, where have you been, what have you been told about the facts(!) to write such, erm, 'stuff'!? The 2009/2010, armed insurgency 'mastered' by, IMO, in your(?) opinion maybe 'peacefull demonstration' 'in favour of', ...Thaksin, was organised to re-instate the 'Thaksin power', by ousting a democratic government(!) (with a majority of the democratically elected MPs), like it or not, this is a fact! As for Seh Daeng, the rogue Maj. Gen., he bragged enough in front of the media about his special relationship with Thaksin, and the (3,000?) 'armed guards'(!) he was instructed by him to recruit and train, facts again! At the end of that 'mission', he had, IMO, become a liability for the one(s?) he served so well, ...betraying his oath to his Country, and his King, while doing so! Seriously???, that government was not elected. They closed down the airport and demanded the elected government out that was reelected in after the coup. The people including the government of the time let the Democrats in for a limited period of time because the airport closure was costing the country more than a billion baht a day. There were many foreigner that were not able to go home, which effected tourism for many months to come. The true cost of the shut down that held the Thai people to ransom will never be known. As I said in a previous post, I was asking a question about seh dang for goodness sakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 49 minutes ago, Cuchulainn said: They are also the only group to have advocated the burning of Bangkok, using chidren as human shields and the storming of a hospital terrorising sick patients. Yes, Eric. All in the name of democracy; as long as it's their brand of democracy. But but but Suvarnabhumi airport............... .....3 .....2 ....1 ....start rant. You beat me to it. Yes Suvarnabhumi airport, government house and lots more atrocities by the PDRC. Too many to mention so I just attach the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–14_Thai_political_crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) What? A link and no rant? I am disappointed. Atrocities, eh? Good one!! Edited October 27, 2016 by Cuchulainn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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