CDC ponders capital punishment against politicians who sell political posts

 

 

BANGKOK: -- Politicians are warned that they will face harsher penalties, including death, under the charter-mandated organic laws being drafted if they try to topple constitutional monarchy system of administration or engage in the trading of political portfolios for profits.

 

Constitution Drafting Committee chairman Meechai Ruchupan said Wednesday that, in accordance with draft political party bill, political parties can be dissolved for three reasons: accepting fund or using power to topple constitutional monarchy; receiving funding from abroad; and trading in political posts.

 

Regarding party dissolution cases, public prosecutors are entrusted to proceed with the cases to the Constitutional Court which will rule the cases. If the prosecutors do not take the cases to the court, individual complainants can take the cases to the court themselves.

 

Under the draft law, Meechai said, in party dissolution cases, only the offenders will face punishment such as political ban for life, party executives who were not involved will be spared the axe.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/cdc-ponders-capital-punishment-against-politicians-who-sell-political-posts/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-11-03

Death seems a little harsh.

But is a good deterrent.

Assuming it's not all "hot-air".

Wonder how death will be administered ?

Cannot believe, as quoted, "axe".

 

"Death", does that include coup leaders?

Thailand's problem is all positions are up for sale or cronyism and nepotism. How about a court for cases where people feel they lost government positions due to political people holding keeping them out. There should be a database of family names which is open to the public which shows where all family members under a last name work in government. This should only be fore government people of course. The public deserves the right to see this. Nepotism and cronyism by civil servants was rampant in the past and now is still a problem. It happens around the world but Thailand is especially bad. Also paying for family members to get jobs in the waterworks and other departments was also common. All sorts of abuse can be found everywhere from the ministries to the primary schools. Knowing where the family members work in government can help people to figure out their scam. School directors are also famous for taking tea money to let students from rich families into the top schools around the country when those students achieve lower scores than others competing to get it. Shouldn't these directors be fired? Also I have heard law students say that the way to be a judge in Thailand is by paying money. Others studying political science say that to be an ambassador, you need to have the right family name. If so, what a warped system rules over Thailand. Social science research done by an international team would probably be able to figure out where most of the cheats in Thai government are.  And finally what about the regime's generals ability to christen their own children the rank of officers? Isn't that a bit corrupt? Money and politics are only one aspect of this horrible problem. More than those cronyism and nepotism have destroyed the respectability of the government and the faith Thais have in getting an fair chance to work in it and get fair treatment by it. Get rid of the cronyism and nepotism!

Maybe it's about time for shrivelled-up little weasels like Ruchupan and his ilk to be letting the citizens of Thailand deliberate on important national decisions that affect them (rather than continuing to make unilateral decisions based on their own skewed and myopic view of the world).

 

As for his statement that, "...the CDC would hear feedbacks from members of the public about the harsh penalties whether they accept them or not....", that feedback is already out there (see https://is.gd/mLoGBD).

 

Perhaps too, the senile old fool has already forgotten about Section 26 of the so-called "people's" Constitution:

Enactment of any law that results in the restriction on rights or liberties of a person shall be in conformity with the conditions stipulated in the Constitution. In the event where no condition is provided in the Constitution, such law shall not be contrary to the rule of law or unreasonably increase burden or restrict the rights or liberties of a person, shall not affect human dignity of a person, and shall specify therein the purpose and necessity for imposing such restriction on rights and liberties.

 

 

 

Death penalty for politicinns. ...

 

Well it has taken a couple of years but sooner or later all Juntas get round to it.

Edited November 2, 20169 yr by JAG

2 hours ago, Pattaya28 said:

Death seems a little harsh.

But is a good deterrent.

Assuming it's not all "hot-air".

Wonder how death will be administered ?

Cannot believe, as quoted, "axe".

 

 

 

It would never happen in a million years. Nobody in a real position of power gets the hammer in the LOS. Period. End of story. The land of injustice. Only the poor are punished. The rich, powerful and connected are protected rather than prosecuted. 

2 hours ago, Alive said:

Thailand's problem is all positions are up for sale or cronyism and nepotism. How about a court for cases where people feel they lost government positions due to political people holding keeping them out. There should be a database of family names which is open to the public which shows where all family members under a last name work in government. This should only be fore government people of course. The public deserves the right to see this. Nepotism and cronyism by civil servants was rampant in the past and now is still a problem. It happens around the world but Thailand is especially bad. Also paying for family members to get jobs in the waterworks and other departments was also common. All sorts of abuse can be found everywhere from the ministries to the primary schools. Knowing where the family members work in government can help people to figure out their scam. School directors are also famous for taking tea money to let students from rich families into the top schools around the country when those students achieve lower scores than others competing to get it. Shouldn't these directors be fired? Also I have heard law students say that the way to be a judge in Thailand is by paying money. Others studying political science say that to be an ambassador, you need to have the right family name. If so, what a warped system rules over Thailand. Social science research done by an international team would probably be able to figure out where most of the cheats in Thai government are.  And finally what about the regime's generals ability to christen their own children the rank of officers? Isn't that a bit corrupt? Money and politics are only one aspect of this horrible problem. More than those cronyism and nepotism have destroyed the respectability of the government and the faith Thais have in getting an fair chance to work in it and get fair treatment by it. Get rid of the cronyism and nepotism!

 

Did you forget this? It's official that its ok to give/take bribes. 

China and Russia have or have had the death penalty for corruption.   It probably only be reserved as deterrent and only used as an example on the less equal.    

Wow! So you can run over and kill policemen when drunk and get away with it - but sell political posts and get executed?

 

Baby steps, Thailand. First, start with corruption. How about prison, losing jobs and benefits if caught being corrupt. If this works, go from there. If it doesn't work (which it will) go in another direction.

 

All just meaningless and hot air. If you're not benefiting from corruption then you imagine one day you could. And that's the problem. You can't just say 'No corruption!' How about saying 'Corruption is evil!'. Then explain why it's abhorrent until the people understand.

 

But of course you don't wanna end your own gravy train. 

Politicians in the West must be quaking...

 

What the Philippines is abruptly doing, the Thais enshrine it into their Constitution.

Meanwhile deposing a democratically elected government at gun point is to be made mandatory if the said government does not pamper to the whims of the ruling elite

Just put them in a military cell, give them a pair of socks and turn off the cctv. Death seems to come naturally. 

49 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Wow! So you can run over and kill policemen when drunk and get away with it - but sell political posts and get executed?

 

Baby steps, Thailand. First, start with corruption. How about prison, losing jobs and benefits if caught being corrupt. If this works, go from there. If it doesn't work (which it will) go in another direction.

 

All just meaningless and hot air. If you're not benefiting from corruption then you imagine one day you could. And that's the problem. You can't just say 'No corruption!' How about saying 'Corruption is evil!'. Then explain why it's abhorrent until the people understand.

 

But of course you don't wanna end your own gravy train. 

You can't be too impatient about fixing corruption. Some time back PM Prayuth said it would take 20 years to completely stamp out. Only 19 years and 7 months to go. 

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or engage in the trading of political portfolios for profits

How about getting your family member becoming chief of the army for profit?

Or how about his son getting government contracts for profit?

Or how about his wife flying around the country in military planes and acting like a royal for status and profit?

 

Just wondering...

so does this mean

 

death for all new coup takers ?

 

 

I wonder if this could be applied to let's say...a Prime Minister's Brother because of Nepotism...oh never mind...

In this case the power of Money and influence is more powerful than death 

This is targeted directly at one faction and one faction only.

 

and this "using power to topple constitutional monarchy", is again targeted at only one group, announced now as a deterrent for (soon) future events.

Corruption is killing Thailand. Something needs to be done. I do not condone the death penalty but stiff jail sentences shoulld be given for serious corruption at all levels of society

This is sad to hear when the whole system is corrupt.

Let's start with those who force us all to use unsound fiat currencies controlled by a few banking families.

Politicians are only looking for a bit of security in life when lining their own pockets and those of their cronies and minions.

5 hours ago, Rorri said:

"Death", does that include coup leaders?

 

"Selling" political positions - would that include allowing your non elected criminal brother to run the government, select and regularly reshuffle the cabinet, bring his mates back in when their 5 year corruption bans end etc etc etc.

 

Let's not pretend its all one sided.

2 hours ago, grumbleweed said:

Meanwhile deposing a democratically elected government at gun point is to be made mandatory if the said government does not pamper to the whims of the ruling elite

 

But you don't seem to have a problem if an elected government panders to the whim of a crook who owns their political party and appoints them or constantly breaks the law?

 

Hmmm. Corruption is like the pox - happy to infect anyone.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

 

 

It would never happen in a million years. Nobody in a real position of power gets the hammer in the LOS. Period. End of story. The land of injustice. Only the poor are punished. The rich, powerful and connected are protected rather than prosecuted. 

 

Spot on! And until that changes nothing else ever will.

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

But you don't seem to have a problem if an elected government panders to the whim of a crook who owns their political party and appoints them or constantly breaks the law?

 

Hmmm. Corruption is like the pox - happy to infect anyone.

 

Oh dear, here we go again.  Time to look at another "story".

5 hours ago, Rorri said:

"Death", does that include coup leaders?

Read the charter ...and coups do take place in some countries due to corrupt regimes  or are you insinuating / referringto the current temporary leadership which I openly support?

Death is not harsh in most cases where billions of $ are siphoned and millions of poor people suffer.

38 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

Oh dear, here we go again.  Time to look at another "story".

 

39 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

Oh dear, here we go again.  Time to look at another "story".

 

Ah the usual, let's forget all about the behavior of the previous elected government when slagging this government off diversion. All history now. Correct - and that particular family owned political party has held power in Thai government for most of this century - and done bugger all to change things except in their own favor.

 

Any anti corruption proposals are good and desperately needed - but without the will and process to enforce them impartially simply won't work.

Prayut been on the phone to the Pinoys. has decided its a good option.

This is laughable. Even those guilty of murder escape severe punishment if they are wealthy. I'm not aware of any non wealthy politicians.