rooster59 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Thai lady boy and Lebanese man arrested for 5 million baht ATM thefts in Pattaya Image: Daily News PATTAYA:-- Police have arrested a Thai lady boy and a Lebanese man who were touring the Pattaya area with fake ATM cards stealing cash. Arrested were Sirirat Phromphakdee (or Tom) 42, a Nakorn Pathom native and Lebanese man Mohammad Kanjee, 36. Taken into evidence were seven fake ATM cards, a Vios car and other key evidence. The arrests followed a tip off from Kasikorn bank that a team of scammers were stealing money from ATMs in Pattaya, Bang Lamung and the surrounding area. It is thought that the losses totaled 5 million baht. Suthat - the lady boy, said that he was hired by Mohammad to drive him around for 1,000 baht a trip plus petrol money of 200-300 baht a time. Mohammad told Na Jomtien cops that he had got the cards from a Cambodian contact. Police and crime suppression agencies are expanding the enquiry to arrest those behind the operation. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-11-06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 A bit more news worthy than a couple of nob heads nicking some toiletries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Lebanese you say...Pattaya is such a melting-pot ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, roo860 said: A bit more news worthy than a couple of nob heads nicking some toiletries. Yes, but much less amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, OMGImInPattaya said: Lebanese you say...Pattaya is such a melting-pot ☺ Not so much if it was another Klinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 2 hours ago, OMGImInPattaya said: Lebanese you say...Pattaya is such a melting-pot ☺ That's South East Asia for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Five million at twenty thousand a pop must of been about 250 ATM visits; the LB had to of thought something was up when stopping that many times you'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Hardly a lady "boy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 That sounds like the start of a good joke: "There once was a Thai lady boy, a Lebanese man, and an ATM........." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf99 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Agree 250 visits are a lot ? and also - what about the account holders who have lost money...do the banks go through all the transactions, then contact all of them and put the money back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 11 hours ago, rooster59 said: Sirirat Phromphakdee (or Tom) 42, 11 hours ago, rooster59 said: Lebanese man Mohammad Kanjee, 36 11 hours ago, rooster59 said: Suthat - the lady boy And then there were three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissie Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 9 hours ago, silent said: Not so much if it was another Klinger. I think Klinger would rather be selling illegally imported Lebanese Cheese. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 7 hours ago, IAMHERE said: Five million at twenty thousand a pop must of been about 250 ATM visits; the LB had to of thought something was up when stopping that many times you'd think. I don't see where you're getting the figure of 250 visits from? The culprit had seven fake ATM cards according to the OP which means he could withdraw 140.000 baht from one machine. So if five million baht was stolen, then only 36 withdrawals were necessary not 250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissie Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Did all the 7 ATM cards have the Pin Code written on the back of the cards ? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanio82 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 12 hours ago, IAMHERE said: Five million at twenty thousand a pop must of been about 250 ATM visits; the LB had to of thought something was up when stopping that many times you'd think. Well, there are places where there are 5 ATM's in a row. But again, too greedy and too easy to trace. This kind of activities you should only run on a Sunday which leaves you until Monday before the alarm bell go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, Xircal said: I don't see where you're getting the figure of 250 visits from? The culprit had seven fake ATM cards according to the OP which means he could withdraw 140.000 baht from one machine. So if five million baht was stolen, then only 36 withdrawals were necessary not 250. I think he meant individual withdrawals, and not just stopping at one ATM and using 7 ATM cards each time. What I want to know is how did he get the ATM Pin codes? Assuming he got the cards as the story says from a Cambodian guy, where did he get the PIN codes from? Online hacking of some data center that centrally process ATM card transactions? hacking Kasikorn bank data? Just where and how are ATM PIN codes recorded or transferred? Maybe they got the PIN codes from a skimmer device and were saving up the PIN codes to use them in a short term spree and get the money out before multiple people could report their bad transactions? The details are more important than the ATM theft. Oh and we shouldn't assume from the article that he only used those 7 ATM cards that were found on him. There could have been other cards used. Otherwise, the thieves had the good fortune to get 7 accounts that had an average of close to 1 Million Baht in each. That is good fishing. Edited November 6, 2016 by gk10002000 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Sherlock had nothing on all you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I think he meant individual withdrawals, and not just stopping at one ATM and using 7 ATM cards each time. What I want to know is how did he get the ATM Pin codes? Assuming he got the cards as the story says from a Cambodian guy, where did he get the PIN codes from? Online hacking of some data center that centrally process ATM card transactions? hacking Kasikorn bank data? Just where and how are ATM PIN codes recorded or transferred? Maybe they got the PIN codes from a skimmer device and were saving up the PIN codes to use them in a short term spree and get the money out before multiple people could report their bad transactions? The details are more important than the ATM theft. Oh and we shouldn't assume from the article that he only used those 7 ATM cards that were found on him. There could have been other cards used. Otherwise, the thieves had the good fortune to get 7 accounts that had an average of close to 1 Million Baht in each. That is good fishing.Use your debit card at any place of business, overhead security camera at check counter, and bingo they have your pin. Card info retained by the card reader. Then off to the ATM! Rather easy. But use chip debit card from Bangkok Bank and make it it far more difficult to replicate cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, jerojero said: Use your debit card at any place of business, overhead security camera at check counter, and bingo they have your pin. Card info retained by the card reader. Then off to the ATM! Rather easy. But use chip debit card from Bangkok Bank and make it it far more difficult to replicate cards. I know there are many ways to "see" a person's PIN. Since these ATM card accounts seem to be reasonably high value it might be useful to know specifically how they thieves got the PIN. Maybe they all use the same bank and the monitors are monitored by bad guys or inside guys. Let's plug the leaks one by one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 17 hours ago, gk10002000 said: I think he meant individual withdrawals, and not just stopping at one ATM and using 7 ATM cards each time. What I want to know is how did he get the ATM Pin codes? Assuming he got the cards as the story says from a Cambodian guy, where did he get the PIN codes from? Online hacking of some data center that centrally process ATM card transactions? hacking Kasikorn bank data? Just where and how are ATM PIN codes recorded or transferred? Maybe they got the PIN codes from a skimmer device and were saving up the PIN codes to use them in a short term spree and get the money out before multiple people could report their bad transactions? The details are more important than the ATM theft. Oh and we shouldn't assume from the article that he only used those 7 ATM cards that were found on him. There could have been other cards used. Otherwise, the thieves had the good fortune to get 7 accounts that had an average of close to 1 Million Baht in each. That is good fishing. People can be careless when withdrawing cash from an ATM by not covering the keypad with their hand when punching in their pincode. Somebody loitering nearby can memorize the pincode the intended victim has just punched in or thieves can install a skimmer which not only records the pincode but also sends it as a SMS to the thief: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/06/sophisticated-atm-skimmer-transmits-stolen-data-via-text-message/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheard Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 The expert witness (tooth picking) looks like he's on top of it all . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 They obviously used skimming devices instead of hacking into the bank system. That requires more than a Cambodian contact LMFAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petesie80 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Who cares...chuck the thieving gets in the pokey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 A racist slur has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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