Junta Spokesman Denounces Army Caning of Recruit (Video)

[katana]

Bullying is common in armies throughout the world.

I remember seeing a documentary on Russian conscripts a few years back. The bullying that went on and was filmed was in a similar vein to the OP with eg the soldiers having to stand still while taking punches from senior soldiers etc. Any retaliation would have led to a far worse outcome.

There didn't seem to be any logic to it other than the older soldiers were bullied when they entered the army so they would bully the new recruits in turn.

One of the senior officers there gave them a lecture telling them bullying wouldn't be tolerated, but as soon as he was gone they just ignored it.

[geriatrickid]

8 hours ago, Reigntax said:

What is there to investigate.? 

 

Many things. The NCO is subject to courtmartial and like any other legal or disciplinary procedure, there must be due process. This is what must be established and investigated;

 

1. The facts. Was this an actual event or was it  a fake. The mere appearance on  facebook does not make it an actual event.

 

2. Who was implicated. Was it just this NCO or was the event conducted in front of other NCOs and Officers. if so, they share responsibility for not intervening.

 

3. Was this an isolated occurrence, or was the  behaviour  a common occurrence? If this had happened before and was known, where was the  CO? What hadn't the RSM intervened? The incident is most likely not isolated to this NCO, but  involves multiple people in positions of authority.

 

The easy way out is to just say, bad NCO and dispose of him. In the military, there is a chain of command and the NCOs and officers who this drill sargeant reported to are held responsible for   his misconduct. I doubt this was an isolated incident.  If complaints had been made previously and yet this  idiot was allowed to continue, then disciplinary action myst be taken against all implicated officers and NCOs.

 

This is why there must be an investigation.  

[Reigntax]

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

 

Many things. The NCO is subject to courtmartial and like any other legal or disciplinary procedure, there must be due process. This is what must be established and investigated;

 

1. The facts. Was this an actual event or was it  a fake. The mere appearance on  facebook does not make it an actual event.

 

2. Who was implicated. Was it just this NCO or was the event conducted in front of other NCOs and Officers. if so, they share responsibility for not intervening.

 

3. Was this an isolated occurrence, or was the  behaviour  a common occurrence? If this had happened before and was known, where was the  CO? What hadn't the RSM intervened? The incident is most likely not isolated to this NCO, but  involves multiple people in positions of authority.

 

The easy way out is to just say, bad NCO and dispose of him. In the military, there is a chain of command and the NCOs and officers who this drill sargeant reported to are held responsible for   his misconduct. I doubt this was an isolated incident.  If complaints had been made previously and yet this  idiot was allowed to continue, then disciplinary action myst be taken against all implicated officers and NCOs.

 

This is why there must be an investigation.  

 

Really. In the Thai military an investigation means what excuse can we come up to make people believe that we are holier than thou.

 

The video stands before you in all its glory.

 

Of course senior officers have responsibily just as every person who watched it occur and those who continue to allow it to.

 

Isolated incident?. Do you mean isolated because this victim didnt die as is commonly the case. This tye of crime has been going on in the military forever. Small brained imbaciles like to take out their frustration on the vulnerable. It must make them feel powerful.

 

Do you really believe these clowns will uncover the truth?  In la la land even the truth is fake!

[aussieinthailand]

" Regard your soldiers as your children and they will follow you into the deepest vally's;  Look upon them as your beloved son's, and they will stand by you even unto death."     Sun Tzu.  Art of war.

 

Not a fan of one of the worlds greatest military strategists then...

 

Not the first time,  not the last.

 

[Pattaya28]

3rd World Country in all its' "glory". 

[Saraphee]

14 hours ago, inactiveposter said:

And get the one that jumped in for a couple of whacks. Punishment? Transfer to an inactive barracks.


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I'd be more interested in learning of an Active barracks

[Thingamabob]

Disgusting and pathetic. 

[JAG]

20 hours ago, katana said:

Bullying is common in armies throughout the world.

I remember seeing a documentary on Russian conscripts a few years back. The bullying that went on and was filmed was in a similar vein to the OP with eg the soldiers having to stand still while taking punches from senior soldiers etc. Any retaliation would have led to a far worse outcome.

There didn't seem to be any logic to it other than the older soldiers were bullied when they entered the army so they would bully the new recruits in turn.

One of the senior officers there gave them a lecture telling them bullying wouldn't be tolerated, but as soon as he was gone they just ignored it.

Bullying can be stopped, if not eliminated totally.

 

If officers and senior NCOs do their jobs properly, and direct and monitor the training effectively it can be prevented. That is what the British Army has striven to do for the last twenty years, and largely succeeded. 

 

I was involved with one such inquiry into bullying in a training establishment. The bullies were revealed as the least competent and professional amongst the training staff. They had been sent to the depot to get them out of the battalions, where they were inevitably the least well regarded Junior NCOs. Their superiors had been weak and ineffectual in managing and supervising the training. Those recruits that they did produce were of a poor standard (not through their own fault).

 

You do not need to cane soldiers to teach them. If that is your response to a recruit failing, and you are unable to motivate and teach him, then you are not worth whatever rank you have pinned on your sleeves or shoulders.