lucky11 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, siam2007 said: As any goods, services and accommodation on Samet are so ridiculously overpriced and the quality delivered miserable, this is a crystal clear indication that a Mafia is running the show Not exactly a good business model!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgroper2 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: You would no doubt LOVE Penang beaches! Second honeymoon there, resort, right on the beach, very nice beach, pure white sands, azure seas, and, i dont care who the owner was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Last year I spent couple of nights in a nice resort but I found the entire experience "uninviting to return" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgroper2 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Even if they can't get rid of the resorts, I hope the publicity makes enough tourists stay away as to bankrupt the owners. And the 300bt a day workers. (plus tips) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgroper2 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mickmouse1 said: Last year I spent couple of nights in a nice resort but I found the entire experience "uninviting to return" Where i stayed was $300 US a night, very reasonable, if you paid much less, you get what you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, MikeTexas said: They are right about one thing. Name names and prosecute. More likely it would be "name names and get sued for defamation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgroper2 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, impulse said: More likely it would be "name names and get sued for defamation". Good to see someone else researches the subject instead of just posting whatever comes into their mind. "Name and shame", go directly to jail, do not pass go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sendintheclowns Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: So why were the 80 officials removed? And why did takings in August rise dramatically once they were moved out? No word of course about the corrupt officials being prosecuted though. That would be a step too far I suppose. ah - ''the first step cuts the deepest'' (with apologies to Cat Stevens). It is pretty obvious, from the formal style of representations made, that the established resort owners are moving fast to protect their interests. If legit use of land, no problem. Surely, the army came bring in some whatchamacallthems and survey who's taken over what land? as for the lower end of the food chain;, the vendors, and even the accursed jetski operators are always subject to blackmail by someone. The island needs an independent beach management organization, which controls licensing and garbage removal, coupled with 'green' volunteer groups (which are starting to pop up in many tourist beach areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Reminds me of road runner when caotI dressed up as a roadrunner with a lemonade stand ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 "Nobody here but us chickens" And "A turd by any other name would smell as bad..." Sorry Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 4 hours ago, impulse said: On an aside, are the jet ski scams as prevalent on Samet as they are (were?) by Mike's in Pattaya? I've always found the jetski operators to be quite reasonable on Samet and in fact quite relaxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 no need as Section 44 and other laws are used move on folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsw53 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Has it occurred to these people that they may be the reason tourist numbers are down. I went two years ago with my teenage kids who were terrified by the way boats and jet skis were driven there. I would not go back if given a free holiday and know many people who share my view. We love white knuckle events, but not the sort of day when you are just glad to be alive at the end of it. Mafia there may be, and they are a good peg to hang this excuse on. Jellyfish and the wrong kind of sand have been lined up for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 They claimed the governor of the province Surasak Jaroensirichot agrees with them and said that he and other officials have been working hard over the last few years to rid the province of dark figures involved in corruption. Just contradicted themselves, Yes? No Mafia here now, but there was before ! To rid the province, so not 'totally' rid the province. Maybe telling fibs, are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, dcsw53 said: Has it occurred to these people that they may be the reason tourist numbers are down. I went two years ago with my teenage kids who were terrified by the way boats and jet skis were driven there. I would not go back if given a free holiday and know many people who share my view. We love white knuckle events, but not the sort of day when you are just glad to be alive at the end of it. Mafia there may be, and they are a good peg to hang this excuse on. Jellyfish and the wrong kind of sand have been lined up for next year. Some of the speed boat drivers do approach the beaches way too fast and I think a French woman was run over swimming at night on Wong Duen beach. Also the idiots riding the jetskis could stay away from people swimming in the shallows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Off course not............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Ok, no mafia. Only corruption at all levels and just as much illegal activities. And how about the Governor comes out with his own spoken statement direct to the news media? No? I thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Not quite as good as when a government minister took a walk through Pattaya a few years ago and declared there was no prostitution there, but not a bad effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The only way to get rid of the Mafia here would be to sink the entire island........ even if it was a leper colony they would still be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, mcfish said: Suuuuck it boys. You feeling ripped off? Just ask how the tourists felt when you charged them 20k for that jet ski scratch. Happy dayz! Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Well, on the other hand, it could end LETHALLY for upcoming tourist, as these types of "Claim-To-Be-NO-Mafia-operators and their henchmen" are a master of releasing their anger at innocent personalities,...... if you know what I mean...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: So why were the 80 officials removed? And why did takings in August rise dramatically once they were moved out? No word of course about the corrupt officials being prosecuted though. That would be a step too far I suppose. Forget about asking the Parks Officials. Tell them to ask the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 so here goes, time to put the prices up as the number of tourist are dropping, hit the tourist harder that do go, thats the way to do it, NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennw Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, sandgroper2 said: I still enjoy Samet, why should i worry who owns the resort, and of course they are there to make money. To say otherwise rediculous. The land the resort it built on? Doesnt affect my stay there one bit. The bars, the beer is just as cold no matter if mafia owns the place , or not. Loosen up. We are a long time dead. Very selfish attitude Typical F - u- jack I'm ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 When the military toured the bars in Central Chiang Mai soon after the coup, they asked the bar owners to whom and how much were they paying the various police interests. To a man (or woman) they all answered "nothing" when in reality they were paying thousands each month to 4 different police operations. Too scared to tell the truth. Same at Samet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfish Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I still enjoy Samet, why should i worry who owns the resort, and of course they are there to make money. To say otherwise rediculous. The land the resort it built on? Doesnt affect my stay there one bit. The bars, the beer is just as cold no matter if mafia owns the place , or not. Loosen up. We are a long time dead.Pathetic. Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kru Baa Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 "No mafia here" says the mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlwilliamsjr18 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 This too, shall pass. It's just irritable bowel syndrome.....that too is a metaphor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyofdoom Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Used to be a great island with fun beach bars that would stay open until the party ended. Seemed like no police on the island, so whatever nightlife laws existed on the mainland to close early were not observed. Last time I went, a year ago, bars shut down at 11:30pm, since they needed half and hour to clear out all guests before the stroke of midnight. That's when a patrolboat would sail along the coast, noting any bars with lights still on, for fines etc. So now the fun nightlife is finished, and I think that has a lot to do with the arrivals plummeting. I think a lot of regulars just gave up on the island after the parties got crippled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: So why were the 80 officials removed? And why did takings in August rise dramatically once they were moved out? No word of course about the corrupt officials being prosecuted though. That would be a step too far I suppose. army want army friendly officials running the show. corrupt or not the old ones had to go. hard to believe anything will really come of this but i guess there is hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsuptome Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The main thing I wonder when I read a story like this is how these Thai journalism outlets manage to stay in business when they don't even appear to have heard of the concept of investigative journalism. They parrot these absurd claims being made by random jetski operators and make zero effort to do any actual research into the validity of said claims. Who would pay for this junk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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