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Can I keep reentry permit for the next time? Use visa exemption

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I am on Thai NON-O visa.  I travel to country A for 7 days, return to Thailand for 7 days and go to country B for another 7 days.

 

I have a single reentry permit when I leave for country A.  Upon my return to Thailand, can I use visa exemption instead.  I will leave again in 7 days and use reentry permit.

 

Please help.  I try to search for information but cannot find it.

A single re-entry permit is 1,900 thb and allows only one exit and re-entry. Depending on how long you want to stay in Thailand, coming across a land border into Thailand will give you another 7 days.

 

A multi re-entry permit will allow many exits and re-entries and costs only twice as much as the single at 3,800 thb

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12 minutes ago, billd766 said:

A single re-entry permit is 1,900 thb and allows only one exit and re-entry. Depending on how long you want to stay in Thailand, coming across a land border into Thailand will give you another 7 days.

 

A multi re-entry permit will allow many exits and re-entries and costs only twice as much as the single at 3,800 thb

A single re-entry permit costs 1000 baht and a multiple 3800 baht. The 1900 baht number is for extensions of stay.

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54 minutes ago, SummerMan said:

I have a single reentry permit when I leave for country A.  Upon my return to Thailand, can I use visa exemption instead.  I will leave again in 7 days and use reentry permit.

If you got a visa exempt entry it would invalidate your re-entry permit since you you have a new permit stay date different from the non-o visa entry that it was issued for.

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Can I do like this?

http://flashpackerfamily.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-getting-a-visa-for-thailand/

 

You want to fly into Thailand, stay less than 30 days then return and stay more than 30 days

Lots of travellers use Thailand as a hub for getting around South East Asia because it’s often the cheapest and easiest airport to fly into in the region. If you’re on an extended trip in South East Asia, chances are you will come in to Thailand first for a short amount of time, go off to a neighbouring country but return to Thailand later for a long period of time. If you’re doing this without an onward flight from Thailand within 30 days then you will still need a visa in your passport to satisfy the airline’s boarding requirement. You can get a double entry tourist visa which costs twice as much. The alternative is to get a single entry visa but only use it on your second entry to Thailand when you plan to stay more than 30 days and use the 30 day visa exemption for your first trip to Thailand. Here’s how to do it:

  1. When applying for your visa ask it to be dated for your second entry. You may need to show proof of this with any air tickets you have purchased. Your visa will then specify “not valid before…” the date of your second entry.
  2. On your first entry into Thailand, do not fill in the visa number on your immigration form. Explain to immigration that you will be using your 30-day visa exemption for your first visit and show that your visa is dated for your future visit.
  3. On your second entry into Thailand fill in your visa number on your immigration form. Let immigration know that you will be using your visa for this entry.
21 minutes ago, billd766 said:

A single re-entry permit is 1,900 thb and allows only one exit and re-entry. Depending on how long you want to stay in Thailand, coming across a land border into Thailand will give you another 7 days.

 

A multi re-entry permit will allow many exits and re-entries and costs only twice as much as the single at 3,800 thb

7 days generally is incorrect, because its depending on the Nationality how many days you get by Land Border...

3 minutes ago, SummerMan said:

Can I do like this?

http://flashpackerfamily.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-getting-a-visa-for-thailand/

 

You want to fly into Thailand, stay less than 30 days then return and stay more than 30 days

Lots of travellers use Thailand as a hub for getting around South East Asia because it’s often the cheapest and easiest airport to fly into in the region. If you’re on an extended trip in South East Asia, chances are you will come in to Thailand first for a short amount of time, go off to a neighbouring country but return to Thailand later for a long period of time. If you’re doing this without an onward flight from Thailand within 30 days then you will still need a visa in your passport to satisfy the airline’s boarding requirement. You can get a double entry tourist visa which costs twice as much. The alternative is to get a single entry visa but only use it on your second entry to Thailand when you plan to stay more than 30 days and use the 30 day visa exemption for your first trip to Thailand. Here’s how to do it:

  1. When applying for your visa ask it to be dated for your second entry. You may need to show proof of this with any air tickets you have purchased. Your visa will then specify “not valid before…” the date of your second entry.
  2. On your first entry into Thailand, do not fill in the visa number on your immigration form. Explain to immigration that you will be using your 30-day visa exemption for your first visit and show that your visa is dated for your future visit.
  3. On your second entry into Thailand fill in your visa number on your immigration form. Let immigration know that you will be using your visa for this entry.

very interesting

10 minutes ago, SummerMan said:

Can I do like this?

That appears to be old info since 2 entry tourist visas are longer issued.

If you mean when your arrive with your unused non-o visa you could try to get the officer to give you a visa exempt entry. Leave the visa space blank on the arrival card and ask him not to use the visa.

37 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A single re-entry permit costs 1000 baht and a multiple 3800 baht. The 1900 baht number is for extensions of stay.

 

:sorry:

I'm interpreting your question differently to Ubonjoe - I'm not sure which one of us is understanding you correctly.  I believe you have entered Thailand on a single-entry Non-Immigrant "O" visa and been given permission to stay for 90 days.  You have applied for and received a single-entry re-entry permit, which would allow you to leave and return and receive the same "permitted to stay until" date as when you entered with your Non-Immigrant "O".  You are asking if you can leave, return on a 30 day visa exempt entry and then leave again and return using your re-entry permit.

 

The answer is no.  If you leave and return on a visa exempt entry, your original 90 day permission to stay (and it's associated re-entry permit) are no longer valid.  If you want to maintain that original 90 day period of stay, you should leave and return using your re-entry permit, and then apply for another single-entry re-entry permit before your second departure.

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8 minutes ago, KamnanT said:

I'm interpreting your question differently to Ubonjoe - I'm not sure which one of us is understanding you correctly.

Did you read my first post or only the 2nd one.

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I am on non O extension.  So I am allowed to stay until next year.  However, I have two short trips out of Thailand this year and wonder if I can save 1000 by using the visa exemption for the small gap between the two trips.

8 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Did you read my first post or only the 2nd one.

 

Ooops! Only the second one.

4 minutes ago, SummerMan said:

I am on non O extension.  So I am allowed to stay until next year.  However, I have two short trips out of Thailand this year and wonder if I can save 1000 by using the visa exemption for the small gap between the two trips.

 

Same applies - if you are on a 12 month extension of stay for any purpose, leaving without a re-entry permit or re-entering on a different status (like visa exempt) terminates your original extension.

5 minutes ago, SummerMan said:

I am on non O extension.  So I am allowed to stay until next year.  However, I have two short trips out of Thailand this year and wonder if I can save 1000 by using the visa exemption for the small gap between the two trips.

Same as my earlier post. Getting a visa exempt entry would cancel your extension and thus the re-entry permit for it.

17 hours ago, SummerMan said:

I am on non O extension.  So I am allowed to stay until next year.  However, I have two short trips out of Thailand this year and wonder if I can save 1000 by using the visa exemption for the small gap between the two trips.

 

You originally said:

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I am on Thai NON-O visa.

 

An extension and a visa are two different things. The extension of stay you got is defined by the reason it was issued, e.g. marriage, retirement, etc. and it is an extension of your permission to stay, not an extension of your non-imm O visa.

 

Confusingly worded questions sometimes lead to confusing answers.

17 hours ago, SummerMan said:

I am on non O extension.  So I am allowed to stay until next year.  However, I have two short trips out of Thailand this year and wonder if I can save 1000 by using the visa exemption for the small gap between the two trips.

No.

19 hours ago, SummerMan said:

Can I do like this?

http://flashpackerfamily.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-getting-a-visa-for-thailand/

 

You want to fly into Thailand, stay less than 30 days then return and stay more than 30 days

Lots of travellers use Thailand as a hub for getting around South East Asia because it’s often the cheapest and easiest airport to fly into in the region. If you’re on an extended trip in South East Asia, chances are you will come in to Thailand first for a short amount of time, go off to a neighbouring country but return to Thailand later for a long period of time. If you’re doing this without an onward flight from Thailand within 30 days then you will still need a visa in your passport to satisfy the airline’s boarding requirement. You can get a double entry tourist visa which costs twice as much. The alternative is to get a single entry visa but only use it on your second entry to Thailand when you plan to stay more than 30 days and use the 30 day visa exemption for your first trip to Thailand. Here’s how to do it:

  1. When applying for your visa ask it to be dated for your second entry. You may need to show proof of this with any air tickets you have purchased. Your visa will then specify “not valid before…” the date of your second entry.
  2. On your first entry into Thailand, do not fill in the visa number on your immigration form. Explain to immigration that you will be using your 30-day visa exemption for your first visit and show that your visa is dated for your future visit.
  3. On your second entry into Thailand fill in your visa number on your immigration form. Let immigration know that you will be using your visa for this entry.

 

Sorry, but I do not see how that is possible. I picked up an SETV today in Shanghai and like previous visas it has two dates on the visa sticker; 'Date of Issue' and 'Enter Before'. The latter being 6 months after the issue date.

 

I do not see how they can make the visa valid to commence any time later than the issue date at the consulate / embassy where it was issued.

 

Maybe that blog article is very old as it mentions double entry visas, but does not seem  at all accurate regardless of the OPs specific question, for which it certainly is not.

 

Maybe some one has achieved a 'visa exempt on arrival' entry / exit with a valid SETV or METV in their passport, so they are able to use the visa on a later longer visit, but I have not heard of it on this forum.

 

Anyone done that?

No more double entry visas!

31 minutes ago, boriga said:

 

Sorry, but I do not see how that is possible. I picked up an SETV today in Shanghai and like previous visas it has two dates on the visa sticker; 'Date of Issue' and 'Enter Before'. The latter being 6 months after the issue date.

 

I do not see how they can make the visa valid to commence any time later than the issue date at the consulate / embassy where it was issued.

 

Maybe that blog article is very old as it mentions double entry visas, but does not seem  at all accurate regardless of the OPs specific question, for which it certainly is not.

 

Maybe some one has achieved a 'visa exempt on arrival' entry / exit with a valid SETV or METV in their passport, so they are able to use the visa on a later longer visit, but I have not heard of it on this forum.

 

Anyone done that?

 

It does depend on the immigration official. I have heard of an IO agreeing to grant a visa exempt entry without using a visa, having the traveler agree in writing that this is what they want. Generally, the IOs do not want to do it, because they are concerned they will be accused of making a mistake granting the wrong-length stay.

Do you have an extension on your original entry visa?

As was said a single entry exit re-entry permit is for a SINGLE re-entry.

If you have an extension (obtained at immigration) your exit re-entry permit is good only until the expiration of that extension.

Normally using your exit and re-entry cancels the extension on your visa.

A single exit re-entry permit is only good until you exit and only for your current extension.

That is what the single exit re-entry permit is for.

So the answer is usually no, you can't  usually "save" it for the next time.

 

 

arriving from ny to bbk on 1/10/17.leaving on 1/13/17 for sin. for a 7 day cruise,retiring to bbk on 1/20/17. then proceeding to pattaya until 4/2/17. please tell me what is required? thank you

12 minutes ago, irish jack said:

arriving from ny to bbk on 1/10/17.leaving on 1/13/17 for sin. for a 7 day cruise,retiring to bbk on 1/20/17. then proceeding to pattaya until 4/2/17. please tell me what is required? thank you

If you are form the US you will get a 30 day visa exempt entry each time you enter the country.

If the airline from NY asks for a onward ticket within 30 days of arrival you could show confirmation of your cruise booking to meet the requirement.

If he's going to be in Thailand from 20-Jan until 02-Apr, won't he need a visa of some sort?

10 hours ago, wpcoe said:

If he's going to be in Thailand from 20-Jan until 02-Apr, won't he need a visa of some sort?

When he enters on January 17 the will get stamped in until February 18th, Then get a 30 day extension of the visa exempt entry and then a border hop for a another 30 days. Or he could go out for a single entry tourist visa instead of the 30 day extension.

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