aidenai Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) About 86 years ago the mother of a friend of mine was born in Thailand. Her birth certificate had 'mistakes' such as date of birth and even the last name. Allegedly the last name of her stepfather was used. Perhaps it has never been done properly. I don't have details on this. At the age of 18 she went to Dutch New Guinea. This was related to the Japanese occupation of Thailand and the many Dutch-Indies people who were in Thailand as POWs. She obtained the Dutch nationality as she married a Dutch national in Dutch New Guinea. She never claimed Thai nationality as at that time, things were really different. In 1962 she and her husband moved to The Netherlands which is still their residence. A couple of times a year she and her husband stay in Thailand for holiday. At this moment 2 of her sisters are still alive and living in Thailand. Both are holding the Thai nationality. My friend's mother is currently interested in obtaining Thai nationality if possible. Is there any possibility for my friend's mother to obtain the Thai Nationality after so many years? Thank you very much in advance. Edited December 13, 2016 by aidenai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 If either of her parents were Thai she already has Thai nationality. She needs to get it established by getting registered in house book and a ID card at an Amphoe. Then you she could get a Thai passport. Since she has family living here she could be registered in one of their house books. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgb Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) A birth certificate should be enough to prove the thai citizenship. 86 years ago jus soli (citizenship through born on the territory of a state) was valid in Thailand. The thais changed it in the seventies. Edited December 13, 2016 by mgb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenai Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Thanks ubonjoe and mgb. I just heard that my friend's mother doesn't hold a Thai birth certificate. It wasn't issued 86 years ago. Apologise for the mis-information. Tomorrow I will get more information as to how it was noted that she was born in Thailand and were such was registered. Thanks for your help so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 There is a system for issuing citizenship numbers to people who have not been previously registered. As long as she has enough people who will state she is who she is, there is a chance. The first port of call is the District Office. They will know exactly what needs to be done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 If her birth was originally registered (whether or not a birth certificate exists) there is a good chance she is still in a house book somewhere. If you are dealing with the district office where she lived in the past, the process may be very easy or nearly impossible. Nearly impossible may just mean offering a few baht to grease the wheels. Good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanyaburi Mac Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Last resort, perhaps, a DNA test of her and her two sisters? Mac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenai Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Thank you very much for your replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenai Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 50 minutes ago, Thanyaburi Mac said: Last resort, perhaps, a DNA test of her and her two sisters? Mac Is this indeed a way and legally accepted to proof Thai citizenship? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/14/2016 at 2:11 AM, BritTim said: If her birth was originally registered (whether or not a birth certificate exists) there is a good chance she is still in a house book somewhere. If you are dealing with the district office where she lived in the past, the process may be very easy or nearly impossible. Nearly impossible may just mean offering a few baht to grease the wheels. Good luck! As far as I know, the system of house registration books only started in the early 50s when they did the first census. I could be wrong on this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 She may want to check if she aquires Thai nationality that she will loose Dutch citizenship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburdic Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/13/2016 at 4:20 PM, aidenai said: Is this indeed a way and legally accepted to proof Thai citizenship? Thanks. I had to prove by DNA I was related to my mother to establish citizenship. Quite an interesting process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgb Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 3 hours ago, baansgr said: She may want to check if she aquires Thai nationality that she will loose Dutch citizenship. The old lady is thai since birth. The question is how to prove it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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