webfact Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Council chief blows a gasket in Facebook rant about littering tourists Picture: Sanook CHONBURI: -- The well known chief of the Bang Saen municipality has gone online to have a withering rant about tourists messing up his beach. Narongchai Khunpleum - better known as "Nayok Tui" used his Facebook page to sound off about the messy tourists. He appeared to be blaming the many Thai people who flock to Bang Saen, reports Sanook. Posting pictures of the offending rubbish he said: "I see this every morning when I am out for my jog. Saturday and Sunday it is even worse. It is all along the beach. The tourists have no sense of shame. "They have no thought for others. When they have finished they just up sticks and leave everything there. Even though there are rubbish bins five or six steps away. No education! No understanding about damage to the environment!" "Nayok Tui" said he always sets a good example and stops to put as much litter in the bins as he can but he is fighting a losing battle. He said he saw a group of youths drinking alcohol and eating on the beach. When he ran back on his run he saw they had left all their rubbish and some bottles were even smashed. Continuing his rant he added: "This is so unfair on people who have to clear up the trash. And you know what? If they go up to these people and tell them not to trash the place they have been known to be assaulted for their trouble". Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-12-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Bring in laws for littering and enforce them ! it's not something new to the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm right with you Nayok. I see it at National Parks also and they have the audacity to charge foreigners more to enter. It's ok farang will pay for cleanup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadid Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 To be fair though, that is not a lot different from how many Thais treat their homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 "They have no thought for others. When they have finished they just up sticks and leave everything there. Even though there are rubbish bins five or six steps away. No education! No understanding about damage to the environment!" Spot on, Nayok Tui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 44 minutes ago, tracker1 said: Bring in laws for littering and enforce them ! it's not something new to the world Ahhh...........but this is not the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Littering is as common as fish sauce here and it is a problem the government might have a shot at fixing. Anti littering campaigns were very successful 30 or 40 years ago in North America. Just tie it in with patriotism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futsukayoi Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Here in Koh Samui the tourists are starting to get bad ay dumping rubbish but only because they see that is what most of the Thais do and therefore it must be acceptable. I walk my dog mainly in quiet areas where few tourists go and it is still usually like a rubbish tip because of Thais dumping their rubbish. Here I would say that the Thais are at least 90% responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehs818 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 If you look closely at the picture in the article, you'll notice that there are no Rubbish Bins available to put the trash that tourist generate. This is true in most of Thailand. Most foreign tourists are quite aware of the need to put trash in a proper disposal area. But there are none in most of Thailand. And for the record, most of the tourists that go to Bang Saen, ARE THAI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 If you look closely at the picture in the article, you'll notice that there are no Rubbish Bins available to put the trash that tourist generate. This is true in most of Thailand. Most foreign tourists are quite aware of the need to put trash in a proper disposal area. But there are none in most of Thailand. And for the record, most of the tourists that go to Bang Saen, ARE THAI.If you look at the photos attached to the original Sanook article, there is a bin 20m away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 3 hours ago, webfact said: No education! No understanding about damage to the environment!" And no police to fine them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I must agree with him, Thai tourists flood Bang Saen on the weekends and leave their garbage everywhere. Their should be roving garbage police with on the spot fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Well just leave it for 1 or 2 month and see how they think about that. Lack of education and enforcement and off-course some bins to put it all in doesn't help. One of the big disadvantages of living here, trash everywhere. How come Vietnam looks nice and clean compared to here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 55 minutes ago, mikebike said: If you look at the photos attached to the original Sanook article, there is a bin 20m away. Usually there are bins around, but they are used by passers-by who use them to dispose their domestic waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzman Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Falang not understand, we are thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjarnNorth Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, ehs818 said: If you look closely at the picture in the article, you'll notice that there are no Rubbish Bins available to put the trash that tourist generate. This is true in most of Thailand. Most foreign tourists are quite aware of the need to put trash in a proper disposal area. But there are none in most of Thailand. And for the record, most of the tourists that go to Bang Saen, ARE THAI. I run this same stretch almost every day. There are rubbish bins and plenty of them. And even if there were't it still wouldn't be acceptable behavior. And he knows they're Thai. " He appeared to be blaming the many Thai people who flock to Bang Saen, reports Sanook." Don't get a lot of foreign tourists in Bangsaen, and this guy pretty much runs the town and owns it so pretty sure he's clear on that. Rubbish bins everywhere, sand sifting machinery to clean the beaches, street sweeper trucks, gangs of street cleaners, still can't keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naruk86 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Thai's don't seem to give a shit. It's a shame. Perhaps if the council tried to make an effort the places would be nice and clean. Maybe if they stopped taking back handers to build more and more condos the place might be more attractive and the Thai's and farangs who invested off plan wouldn't be in shit. Time people started to get jobs because they are capable of doing them. Not because who their mummy and daddy are.Sent from my SM-G930F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgriz Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 This issue does boil down to education. Kids in Japan and most western countries are taught to throw rubbish in a bin. Tokyo has a population of over 20 million and it is spotless. Sure, you will see some random trash here and there, but compared to any area in Thailand it's pristine. Start them young and have the kids shame the adults into acting better. Thailand is a beautiful country hidden under a mountain of garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 3 hours ago, canuckamuck said: Littering is as common as fish sauce here and it is a problem the government might have a shot at fixing. Anti littering campaigns were very successful 30 or 40 years ago in North America. Just tie it in with patriotism. I agree 100%. Spearheaded by Mc Donald's. "Pick up clean up, its all up to you", bussing your tray when you finished your meal. Making sure your garbage was placed in the garbage can and picking up a few extra pieces from the ground. Very successful. Micky D's should dust of the same campaign and use it across Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 2 hours ago, fruitman said: And no police to fine them.... In Bangkok there are cigarette butt police who stalk smoking tourists waiting until a cigarette is discarded - even down a drain. A 'fine' is then negotiated. Surely there is an abundance of 'civic-minded' police to enforce this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living in a cartoon Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Crimony, he's the council chief. He is in a position to do something about it. Guess it's easier and more self-flattering to just bitch about it on social media. Hey Somchai, do your damn job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 5 hours ago, tracker1 said: Bring in laws for littering and enforce them ! it's not something new to the world laws are in place. generally only foreign tourists get fined for littering offences. 1000thb per cigarette butt for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 "They have no thought for others. When they have finished they just up sticks and leave everything there. Even though there are rubbish bins five or six steps away. No education! No understanding about damage to the environment!" While what he is saying is true, and the vast majority of Thai people have very, very little regard for either their environment or nature in general, he has some responsibility for clean up, of his own beaches. He has to use some of his budget, or petition the local government for funds, to handle the clean up. That is the case with any tourist beach. His area generates income from the tourists. This is what is known in many civilized areas as giving back to the community. Does he get any of that? If Thais were taught beginning at a young age, that the land is sacred, and something to be respected, things might be different. Also, littering laws would help. In the US, they had the same problems until the 1960's. They started a litterbug campaign, and it caused a great deal of shame, to people who continued the practice. Also, today in the US the fine for littering the highways is now $1,000. Try that here! 36,000 baht would wake their butts up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 12 minutes ago, Living in a cartoon said: Crimony, he's the council chief. He is in a position to do something about it. Guess it's easier and more self-flattering to just bitch about it on social media. Hey Somchai, do your damn job. bitching about it on face book is doing something in thailand. fixes many problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 19 minutes ago, mikebell said: In Bangkok there are cigarette butt police who stalk smoking tourists waiting until a cigarette is discarded - even down a drain. A 'fine' is then negotiated. Surely there is an abundance of 'civic-minded' police to enforce this? Yup they also got me, he picked another cigarettebutt from the drain and claimed it to be mine. I showed him my marlborough package and the butt was a krungtip but he just walked off with my passport and i had to pay 1000 to get it back. I admit i threw it in the drain though but there were no bins to be seen nowhere. And now since BKK is "so safe" there really are no bins anywhere, even not on big markets like chatuchak. Now i ask the security at the entrance of malls where to put it, sometimes they have an empty bottle to put it in or sometimes they tell me to throw it outside, the maid will clean it they say, mai ben lai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 6 hours ago, webfact said: Narongchai Khunpleum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD13 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Brits, Northern Europeans, Scandanavians and Americans are all "conditioned" to dispose of their waste in the proper manner.......sadly not so Asians Many years ago there was a campaign "Keep Britain Tidy"....attractive...litter bins were located everywhere with the same wording and emblem embossed on them. Hey Thailand ......why not adopt similiar but with the slogan Make Thailand. "Tidyland" but of course.....like the west....the older more stubborn generation....has to die out first or their offspring shame them into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deez Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Might help if they had some trash bins around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 7 hours ago, webfact said: "They have no thought for others. Yes, they have. They think of others (lowly peasant cleaners) picking up their crap, and feel great about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Thainess pure and simple, following the edicts Thainess rules everyone else sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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