sanemax Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Yes, it was a stupid thing to do . They were young and drunk . A simple apology , a Wai and admitting the error of their ways will be enough "punishment" for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatoichi Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, kannot said: ok so you dont find the potential sentences "ridiculous" Not at all, given the evidence. But then it doesn't really matter what I think about the sentences. I'm not Thai, I don't vote here, I'm a guest, have been for over 15yrs, I respect the country, powers that be, and the faith and I never had any problems. This was totally avoidable, it's not like they got drunk and got into a argument that lead to a fisticuffs with a taxi driver. No, they decided to disrespect the flag for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: First thing I learnt when I visited many years ago was respect. It is not asking too much, is it ? so before Ali G you had none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 It would be nice to know what their boggle was I get frustrated by motorcycles going the wrong way, cars turning without signalling, cars parking where they please, shop vendors hogging up sidewalks and the list goes on. I posted once about a mechanic who ripped me off and I had pictures to prove it, but was reprimanded and banned from the forum for a while, because I was defaming a Thai company... It would also be nice to be able to be in a country, where you have the opportunity to complain, without fear of defamation and slander It would be nice if the media is allowed to expose issues without the fear of some pineapple type lawsuit Of course people are frustrated and its not just the westerners When the people and its visitors are gagged, there will be some form of retaliation, even if its just a taking down of a flag If we knew why they took down the flags, then some of us just might sympathize with their action, even if we dont agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 It's a piece of coloured cloth ( just to get things into perspective ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatoichi Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, soalbundy said: It's a piece of coloured cloth ( just to get things into perspective ) So is a photo of your mother, but best believe if I was a guest in your house I wouldn't rip it off the wall and step on it. I don't know you or her, but I know that picture means something too you, and out of simple human decency and common sense, I respect the things in your home whilst I'm your guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermannor Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 thai006, why only 1 or 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo72 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I will have no sympathy for these two when they are caught and really do hope they do time for this. For anyone thinking this is a trivial matter, try doing this to your own national flag in your home country.......................Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, sanemax said: It isnt just a piece of cloth, its a piece of cloth with a meaning and significance to some but not all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I was drunk on Raki in Turkey once. Wanted one to take home. Got caught. The cops ended up giving me one. And one of there badges. Also got a photo opp with them pretending to arrest me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 It amazes me how many people get bent out of shape over their country's mass produced (often in China) cloth. Nationalism is almost as bad as organized religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, dcnx said: It amazes me how many people get bent out of shape over their country's mass produced (often in China) cloth. Nationalism is almost as bad as organized religion. It is organized religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, sanemax said: It isnt just a piece of cloth, its a piece of cloth with a meaning and significance That is just what has been drilled into your head since you were born. It's a logo for a country, that's all. Every corporation has a logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, soalbundy said: It is organized religion True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Zatoichi said: So is a photo of your mother, but best believe if I was a guest in your house I wouldn't rip it off the wall and step on it. I don't know you or her, but I know that picture means something too you, and out of simple human decency and common sense, I respect the things in your home whilst I'm your guest. The crime is vandalism, nothing more, but here it will get blown out of proportion due to sentimental 'love' of the country and its symbols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabaii69 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 hours ago, chrisinth said: I will have no sympathy for these two when they are caught and really do hope they do time for this. For anyone thinking this is a trivial matter, try doing this to your own national flag in your home country....................... Obama says it is ok and the supreme court agrees. So, what country are you considering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I was drunk on Raki in Turkey once. Wanted one to take home. Got caught. The cops ended up giving me one. And one of there badges. Also got a photo opp with them pretending to arrest me.The cops ended up "giving you one". What about a flag?Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, katana said: Manager Online says the 2 youths were arrested on Sunday night. The culprits were a 20 and 18 year-old, both reported as being Italian (although their transliterated names don't sound very Italian?). They're apologising profusely, saying they were drunk. Thai online comment seems pretty heated. Police said they will charge them with damage to property and desecrating the national flag. If justice would only move so swiftly in all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Card Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 hours ago, watcharacters said: YOU are correct about how to act in a foreign country. However, if you were in my home country you could spit, stomp on, and burn my countries flag in public and you would have the protection of the law for your actions. It's called freedom of expression/speech. If a country does not allow for that then anyone breaking the law in a foreign country should realize the potential gravity of his actions. Doubt even in your country they would allow any flags to be rip down that were hung in a public place, although they would probably be let off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnlightenedAtheist Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 A tourist goes to some country on holiday. While he’s there, he gets a chance to talk with a local and starts asking: - How’s the media here? You have a few TV shows about dragons and movies about super heroes. - Can’t complain. - How about the education system? Are your schools ok? There are stories about cheating and mistreatment. - Can’t complain. - But what about those numerous road accidents and missed trials? - Can’t complain. - But then, I don’t get it. Why don't many of you leave? - I already told you why: we can’t complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Farang Flag Defacers: Police find two Italians that tore down Thai flags in Krabi (VIDEO) By Laurel Tuohy KRABI: -- In a clip that made the internet rounds this weekend, two foreign men are seen on CCTV defacing Thai flags in Krabi. The one-minute clip, originally posted by Facebook user Anake Saranath, appears to be taken outside of a business and the timestamp on the footage says that it happened at 3:29am on Saturday morning. In it, the men are sitting at the far end of the camera’s view before walking further into the frame. A tall caucasian man rips down a Thai flag and throws it to the ground. Next, a shorter caucasian man walks up to the flags and rips down three more. The second man appears angry while the first man seems quite casual about defacing a national symbol of Thailand. Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2017/01/09/farang-flag-defacers-police-find-two-italians-tore-down-thai-flags-krabi-video -- © Copyright Coconuts Bangkok 2017-01-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, dcnx said: That is just what has been drilled into your head since you were born. It's a logo for a country, that's all. Yes, its logo for a Country , which gives it significance . It signifies a Country and the message was "This is what we think of Thailand" It also wasnt their property to damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 here are a couple of clowns who are going to have the plesure of seeing the inside of a Thai slammer! could not happen to a better bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatoichi Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, soalbundy said: The crime is vandalism, nothing more, but here it will get blown out of proportion due to sentimental 'love' of the country and its symbols Right and if you punched me in the teeth for disrespecting your mother by tossing down her picture from the wall and stepping on it, would I not deserve it? Is it wrong for you to love your mother, even if she made her mistakes? Ofcourse not, bottom line, they were in Thailand, tore down the flag, the people here respect their nation and place a value on it's symbolism. It's not entrapment, nobody forced those jerk offs to tear down all those flags. They chose to, for no benefit other than to feel important, special, perhaps above the law. Not like there was any money in the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, soalbundy said: The crime is vandalism, nothing more, but here it will get blown out of proportion due to sentimental 'love' of the country and its symbols absolutely high pranks (stupid pranks) but that is ALL they don't deserve the death penalty even in this xenophobic, nationalist country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, sanemax said: Yes, its logo for a Country , which gives it significance . It signifies a Country and the message was "This is what we think of Thailand" It also wasnt their property to damage. Yes, it is property damage. That much I'll agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, LannaGuy said: absolutely high pranks (stupid pranks) but that is ALL they don't deserve the death penalty even in this xenophobic, nationalist country Has anyone actually stated that they deserve the "death penalty" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Just now, sanemax said: Has anyone actually stated that they deserve the "death penalty" ? it was a humorous 'jab' as you know very well they were stupid but the punishment should fit the petty crime (a fine) not hysterics about the sanctity of Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyvolt Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 31 minutes ago, soalbundy said: It's a piece of coloured cloth ( just to get things into perspective ) So I take it then you would have no problems if I want to one of your relatives graves, and desecrated the headstone, cause you know- according to you, it's only some stone or concrete with no meaning behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidaGwaii Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 hours ago, chrisinth said: I will have no sympathy for these two when they are caught and really do hope they do time for this. For anyone thinking this is a trivial matter, try doing this to your own national flag in your home country....................... Seriously? A lot of country wouldn't give a darn! Why? Because these countries have other values, like respecting other people point of view and political views for example. (hint hint) Not everyone has a fixation to punish foreign drunks and stupid people. The cops have nothing better to do than that and stealing money from people??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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