webfact Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 White House official attacks court after legal setbacks on immigration REUTERS Senior White House Advisor Stephen Miller waits to go on the air in the White House Briefing Room in Washington, U.S., February 12, 2017. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A White House official launched a blistering attack on the federal appeals court that blocked President Donald Trump's executive order on immigration on Sunday, calling its ruling a "judicial usurpation of power." The Trump administration has faced multiple legal setbacks to its travel ban issued on Jan. 27, and the Republican president has said he may issue a new executive order rather than go through lengthy court challenges. "The president's powers here are beyond question," White House adviserStephen Miller said on the "Fox News Sunday" program. Miller referred to immigration law that the executive order is based on that gives the U.S. president broad powers to restrict who enters the country on national security grounds. However, the same law forbids discrimination on race, sex, nationality or place of birth or residence. The case also could involve First Amendment protections involving religion. The executive order Trump issued banned entry into the United States to refugees and citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries, triggering nationwide protests and legal challenges. A week later, a federal judge in Seattle issued a temporary restraining order that put the president's travel ban on hold, eliciting a barrage of angry Twitter messages from Trump. The judge's suspension was upheld by a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco on Thursday. Miller, appearing on several television news shows, criticized the court and its ruling. "The 9th Circuit has a long history of being overturned and the 9th Circuit has a long history of overreaching," he said on the Fox news show. "This is a judicial usurpation of power." The powers to restrict entry into the United States "represent the very apex of presidential authority," he added. "We have multiple options and we are considering all of them," Miller said while appearing on ABC's "This Week." Those include formulating a new executive action, appealing the 9th Circuit panel's decision to the full appeals court and appealing the emergency stay to the Supreme Court, he said. If the Seattle lawsuit goes to trial, Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson said on Sunday he will depose Trump administration officials to uncover "what truly motivated" the president's executive order. Documents and emails authored by administration officials may contain evidence that the order was an unconstitutional attempt to ban Muslims from entering the United States, and Ferguson said on ABC's "This Week" that he will use "every tool" at his disposal to bring those to light. (Reporting by Doina Chiacu and Julia Harte; Writing by Doina Chiacu; Editing by Andrea Ricci and Alan Crosby) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Time to delete a few emails.sent using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 It seems totally ridiculous that Trump is not being allowed to do the things that his promises to perform were the ones that got him into the White House ! Never in the history of American politics has an incoming president had to put up with so much bulls**t, especially from the outgoing poor loser. Sad ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 This administration is undermining the credibility of our government's institutions. It's horrible what they are doing. From saying anything negative about them is fake news to condemning the judiciary. It's undermining the very core of our government. Terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Dear Mr Miller When you get to my age, you will discover that setbacks and disappointments are a part of life. It is no good blaming others for them. You just have to do the other options. Kind regards Newatthis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said: It seems totally ridiculous that Trump is not being allowed to do the things that his promises to perform were the ones that got him into the White House ! Never in the history of American politics has an incoming president had to put up with so much bulls**t, especially from the outgoing poor loser. Sad ! Yes, he got the majority of electoral votes, but he lost the popular vote by around 3 million. He doesn't have a mandate. Plus, many folks who voted for him, are turned off by him now, and more are leaving his fan base every day. Trump is in a massive rut, and here's why: A vast majority of Americans actively don't like him, or Bannon, or their edicts. Trump is like the marriage partner, where everything he says or does is despised by the other partner (87% of Americans). It's nearly impossible to crawl out of such a fissure. It's only going to get worse. Meanwhile, Bannon will get deeper entrenched in his hyper-right-wing ideas, while Trump isolates himself further from Americans, and listens only to his inner circle of whackos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said: It seems totally ridiculous that Trump is not being allowed to do the things that his promises to perform were the ones that got him into the White House ! Never in the history of American politics has an incoming president had to put up with so much bulls**t, especially from the outgoing poor loser. Sad ! If it appears, to the dwindling crew of Trump supporters, that Trump has to deal with a lot of BS, it's because Trump and Bannon are shoveling so much into the giant fan (otherwise known as the outside world) and it's blowing back in their faces. It's blocking their noses, seeping into their eye sockets, and being blown down their throats. Every bit of BS blowback is theirs, they deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said: It seems totally ridiculous that Trump is not being allowed to do the things that his promises to perform were the ones that got him into the White House ! Never in the history of American politics has an incoming president had to put up with so much bulls**t, especially from the outgoing poor loser. Sad ! If his promises were illegal (and it now seems the travel ban was...or could be) then why should he be allowed to implement them? He had some crazy and ridiculous proposals during his campaign. How come you aren't mad at him for not throwing "Crooked Hillary" in jail? That was one of his big promises. Now, conveniently forgotten. The outgoing president had way more class, and intelligence, than Trump. He may not have been America's greatest president, but he deserves respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 While Trump stays glued to watching the Oval Office TV in his bathrobe for a large portion of each day, Bannon is the real force behind the presidency. Below is a video which offers a little snapshot into the cobwebs in Bannon's brain. Bannon reminds me of my elder brother. They're both Bible-thumpers, always judgmental, steeped in conspiracy theories, and always preaching about the violent demise of Christianity by one or more Devilish forces. A woman who worked closely with Bannon for a decade was asked about him. The first thing she said was; "he's consumed by thoughts of war." Trump voters, in their ignorance, brought a smallpox-infected blanket into Washington D.C. Only bad things can ensue with dangerous people like Trump and Bannon in the Oval Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdkane Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, boomerangutang said: Yes, he got the majority of electoral votes, but he lost the popular vote by around 3 million. He doesn't have a mandate. Plus, many folks who voted for him, are turned off by him now, and more are leaving his fan base every day. Trump is in a massive rut, and here's why: A vast majority of Americans actively don't like him, or Bannon, or their edicts. Trump is like the marriage partner, where everything he says or does is despised by the other partner (87% of Americans). It's nearly impossible to crawl out of such a fissure. It's only going to get worse. Meanwhile, Bannon will get deeper entrenched in his hyper-right-wing ideas, while Trump isolates himself further from Americans, and listens only to his inner circle of whackos. Where are you getting that 87% of americans dislike trump's policies? the hyperbole reveals your unwillingness to be objective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardrunner Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, phantomfiddler said: It seems totally ridiculous that Trump is not being allowed to do the things that his promises to perform were the ones that got him into the White House ! Never in the history of American politics has an incoming president had to put up with so much bulls**t, especially from the outgoing poor loser. Sad ! perhaps trump should check that what he wants to do is legal before signing executive orders thatare against the law or perhaps he should engage his brain before using his twitter finger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleevala Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The ruling that the government showed “no evidence” that the travel ban would prevent terrorism is preposterous and should alarm every American. Any such evidence would be classified and certainly wouldn’t be produced in a hasty, one-hour hearing, which the judges conducted over the telephone. The Constitution and laws give the president wide authority to decide whether the entry of “any class of alien” would harm the United States. Effectively claiming that authority for itself, the court grossly oversteps and obliterates the separation of powers. It also opens itself to public fury if the ruling opens the door to terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, kaleevala said: The ruling that the government showed “no evidence” that the travel ban would prevent terrorism is preposterous and should alarm every American. Any such evidence would be classified and certainly wouldn’t be produced in a hasty, one-hour hearing, which the judges conducted over the telephone. The Constitution and laws give the president wide authority to decide whether the entry of “any class of alien” would harm the United States. Effectively claiming that authority for itself, the court grossly oversteps and obliterates the separation of powers. It also opens itself to public fury if the ruling opens the door to terrorists. Wrong. If the administration has concrete evidence, they can present their case behind closed doors. They didn't because they don't. The EO is a massive stab in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 57 minutes ago, hdkane said: Where are you getting that 87% of americans dislike trump's policies? the hyperbole reveals your unwillingness to be objective... His approval rating is around 42%. So, 58% don't like the just Trump is doing. The percentages could be lower or higher if you look into more specific actions. http://www.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, webfact said: "This is a judicial usurpation of power." Constitution 1 Trump 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 To understand how Trump thinks, it helps to understand one of Trump's childhood heroes: W. Clement Stone. Stone is most famous for his touting, "Positive Mental Attitude" PMA. Stone initially got rich and known, for being a successful Fuller Brush salesman. To be a good salesman, you've got to convince people (Fuller Brush salesmen went door to door, literally) to buy something they're initially not thinking about, nor interested in. But back to PMA: It's a philosophy which emphasizes; verbally accentuating something that you want to be true, and then it will become true. That explains why Trump and his inner circle are often emphasizing things that (they must know) are not true - in the hope that saying them often and loud - will make them true. Shawn Spicer did it on his first day: "President Trump had, by far, the largest attendance at his inaugeration, of any president in history. PERIOD. " Spicer, Conway, and all the other liars which surround LIAR #1, are believers in Trump's skewed version of PMA: Repeat something often and emphatically, and others will have to believe it. Unfortunately for Trumpsters, the majority of Americans aren't going to believe things they know to be false. Trumpsters will, as proven by most Trump fans, believe K-A Conway's stupid statement about "The Bowling Green Massacre" which, of course (to thinking/knowledgable people) never happened. .....and Trumpsters will continue to believe all manner of lies, no matter how outlandish or how easily they're proven to be untrue. Trump and Bannon are just getting their stride. There will be a plethora of lies oozing from the Oval Office (and their spokespeople) for as long as Trump breathes (because even when he's out of office, he will continue his harmful-to-America BS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 6 hours ago, webfact said: Senior White House Advisor Stephen Miller waits to go on the air in the White House Briefing Room in Washington, U.S., February 12, 2017. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts Looks like a bloody undertaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 6 hours ago, webfact said: calling its ruling a "judicial usurpation of power." Sorry Donald you tried to do an end run around the judiciary and got caught. There are checks and balances in the system and the judge just body checked you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, phantomfiddler said: It seems totally ridiculous that Trump is not being allowed to do the things that his promises to perform were the ones that got him into the White House ! Never in the history of American politics has an incoming president had to put up with so much bulls**t, especially from the outgoing poor loser. Sad ! phantomfiddler hm suites you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakeopete Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Trump should get advice from Hillary on deleting emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 6 hours ago, webfact said: "The 9th Circuit has a long history of being overturned and the 9th Circuit has a long history of overreaching," he said on the Fox news show. "This is a judicial usurpation of power." The powers to restrict entry into the United States "represent the very apex of presidential authority," he added. Conservative pundit: Trump only uses ‘cringe-worthy’ surrogates because no one else will lie for him "“Stephen Miller has only one audience, he’s playing to Donald Trump. This is somebody proving that he is the loyalist possible spokesman. But what you have there [in Miller] is you have the intersection of inexperience, incompetence and zealotry, and the fact that he is doubling down on something that is clearly just not true.” http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/conservative-pundit-trump-only-uses-cringe-worthy-surrogates-because-no-one-else-will-lie-for-him/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumbaBangkok Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, phantomfiddler said: It seems totally ridiculous that Trump is not being allowed to do the things that his promises to perform were the ones that got him into the White House ! Never in the history of American politics has an incoming president had to put up with so much bulls**t, especially from the outgoing poor loser. Sad ! Totally self inflicted in reality. Trumps team let him down big time. Breathtaking Level of incomptence To produce something so easily challenged in court.Forget any appeal , just re write , sign off and get on with business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reenatinnakor Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 It seems totally ridiculous that Trump is not being allowed to do the things that his promises to perform were the ones that got him into the White House ! Never in the history of American politics has an incoming president had to put up with so much bulls**t, especially from the outgoing poor loser. Sad !His promises were to gun toting, God believing, white people... He didn't actually check whether his ranting promises were actually legal or not lol. Sent from my LG-H990 using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 3 hours ago, kaleevala said: The ruling that the government showed “no evidence” that the travel ban would prevent terrorism is preposterous and should alarm every American. Any such evidence would be classified and certainly wouldn’t be produced in a hasty, one-hour hearing, which the judges conducted over the telephone. The Constitution and laws give the president wide authority to decide whether the entry of “any class of alien” would harm the United States. Effectively claiming that authority for itself, the court grossly oversteps and obliterates the separation of powers. It also opens itself to public fury if the ruling opens the door to terrorists. How do you explain Saudi Arabia, the current clear market leader in sponsoring terrorists, being left off Trump's list then? Anything to do with all of his companies in the kingdom? You need to wake up and smell the coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reenatinnakor Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Donald Trump should be placing a travel ban on his own people. Why are mass shootings not classified as terrorist attacks? Seems quite terrifying to me!Sent from my LG-H990 using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yogi100 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Chicog said: How do you explain Saudi Arabia, the current clear market leader in sponsoring terrorists, being left off Trump's list then? Anything to do with all of his companies in the kingdom? You need to wake up and smell the coffee. On 9/11 Saudi nationals murdered 3,000 Americans on their own soil, the worst single terrorist atrocity in the history of of the world. Yet they are not on the list. I'd say that American politicians including Trump have either lost the plot or put money before the lives and safety of their own citizens and I'm willing to bet that the latter is the case. Out of respect for the memory of those 3,000 victims no Saudi citizen should ever be allowed to enter the USA ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, yogi100 said: Yet they are not on the list. Pakistan for years provided Taliban safe zones in its northern territories and is a main supporter of the Taliban in Afghanistan. http://www.voanews.com/a/afghan-president-says-taliban-wont-last-without-pakistan-support/3622329.html Why isn't Pakistan on the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi100 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, reenatinnakor said: Donald Trump should be placing a travel ban on his own people. Why are mass shootings not classified as terrorist attacks? Seems quite terrifying to me! Sent from my LG-H990 using Thaivisa Connect mobile app 50 odd Americans got killed in one incident by a Muslim in Florida not so long ago. Why is that not on your list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reenatinnakor Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 50 odd Americans got killed in one incident by a Muslim in Florida not so long ago. Why is that not on your list?It is on the list.... Under American killing other Americans. Do your research properly. Plus it was a hate crime, CIA found no links to ISIS. Sent from my LG-H990 using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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