What are the chances that this 700C bike has a 60-61cm frame?

[Hal65]

http://www.lazada.co.th/psb-net-z1-700c-red-888681.html

 

Wish Lazada would give the frame size but no luck. I'm thinking of buying it anyways as I'm a casual rider and 1-2 cm high or low wouldn't be the end of the world.

 

In Thailand do the 700C wheels tend to mean a bigger frame, or is this a terrible way to guesstimate the frame size?

[moonoi]

You can't estimate the size of a frame based on wheel size, almost every road/hybrid bike will have 700c wheels irrespective of frame size.

If you need a 60cm frame you're going to have trouble finding one in Thailand without a special order and especially not at the price you are looking at on Lazada.

That bike will be somewhere from 44-52cm in size to fit the majority of locals.


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[Hal65]

Good to know about the typical frame size range. I'll see if a local shop can custom order for a reasonable price.

[moonoi]

Good to know about the typical frame size range. I'll see if a local shop can custom order for a reasonable price.

It's unlikely you'll find a shop willing to place a custom order for a single bike in that price range, but good luck and post back how you get on.

I think many taller riders would be interested to know of any shops that are willing to do so. I've only really known the Trek distributor to bring in bikes of 60cm, Specialized sometimes bring in 58, and Giant Size L, but not all models and normally the more expensive ones in the range.

[el jefe]

Most shops will tell you they can special order a large frame for delivery in 3 months. That's their way of not having to say "No." if you say OK, in three months they'll say "sorry, it didn't come in yet. Maybe 3 more months."

[Hal65]

I'm learning a lot about how Thailand works in this thread and I've lived here 3 years already. 

 

Ok, importing then. Here's a 60cm fixed gear frame for $150 shipped: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/700C-48-50-51-54-58-60cm-VISP790-fixed-gear-frame-aluminium-alloy-mountain-bicycle-frame/32536670165.html

 

Are fixed gears simple enough to self assemble? Cutting out the Thais although would seem ideal for this project.

 

If this is a moderate skill (or more) project, what would a shop charge for lower end wheels, brakes, seat etc (I would be a casual rider).

Edited February 14, 2017 by Hal65

[el jefe]

12 hours ago, Hal65 said:

I'm learning a lot about how Thailand works in this thread and I've lived here 3 years already. 

 

Ok, importing then. Here's a 60cm fixed gear frame for $150 shipped: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/700C-48-50-51-54-58-60cm-VISP790-fixed-gear-frame-aluminium-alloy-mountain-bicycle-frame/32536670165.html

 

Are fixed gears simple enough to self assemble? Cutting out the Thais although would seem ideal for this project.

 

If this is a moderate skill (or more) project, what would a shop charge for lower end wheels, brakes, seat etc (I would be a casual rider).

I'm pretty sure a Thai will be handling delivery and you may have to deal with Thais at Customs. Your question about assembling it yourself indicates that they are better about some things than you are and that you need them. But if you really want to cut out all the Thais in your life, you'll probably need to move back to your home country.

[impulse]

I'd spring for the difference if you choose this one and promise to ride it past my Asoke apartment for a photo to be posted here on TVF:

 

I'd even pop for a matching helmet if you could find one.

 

http://www.lazada.co.th/full-house-1496538.html

[impulse]

14 hours ago, Hal65 said:

I'm learning a lot about how Thailand works in this thread and I've lived here 3 years already. 

 

Ok, importing then. Here's a 60cm fixed gear frame for $150 shipped: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/700C-48-50-51-54-58-60cm-VISP790-fixed-gear-frame-aluminium-alloy-mountain-bicycle-frame/32536670165.html

 

Are fixed gears simple enough to self assemble? Cutting out the Thais although would seem ideal for this project.

 

If this is a moderate skill (or more) project, what would a shop charge for lower end wheels, brakes, seat etc (I would be a casual rider).

 

Keep in mind Lazada's price is all-in, including freight and import fees.  AliExpress may include freight, but the import duties on a bicycle were 40% last time I checked. (that may have been an e-bike and not a pedal bike or they may all be the same)  Customs has gotten me on 2 of the 30 or so AlIexpress shipments I've received in the last 2 years or so.  Both worth over $500 USD, with duties and fees of 10-20%.  Never exorbitant, but enough to figure into the local-import decision.

 

Here's a handy Thai website.  Pay attention to the special rates based on free trade agreements, which requires drilling down into the search results.  And a PhD in HS codes and customs practices..

 

http://igtf.customs.go.th/igtf/en/main_frame.jsp

 

Here's a handy list of the Free Trade Agreement with China:

 

http://fta.mofcom.gov.cn/dongmeng/annex/taiguo_2009-2018zhengchangchanpinpshuilv.rar

Edited February 15, 2017 by impulse

[CNXBKKMAN]

Hal65 that first fixed gear bike is popular with teenagers and young adults. It costs more than the first bike you posted but is arguably worse. 

     A 61cm framed bike is difficult to find but it suitable for someone who is 6 foot 2 or thereabouts. Are you that tall? 

      Buying a frame and building up your own bike will cost you more than buying a complete bike if you are not a bike expert which I don't think you are from your posts. 

     Best advice find out what the best bike shops are in your area. Visit them and try some Giant, Trek , Merida in the 13000- 15000 baht range. The shop might be able to order a big size?  These will be good bikes which will be enjoyable to ride. If later you find you don't like cycling or never use it, they are easy to sell. 

[Hal65]

12 hours ago, el jefe said:

I'm pretty sure a Thai will be handling delivery and you may have to deal with Thais at Customs. Your question about assembling it yourself indicates that they are better about some things than you are and that you need them. But if you really want to cut out all the Thais in your life, you'll probably need to move back to your home country.

^This guy lacks the ability to read figurative language. If we start cracking Thai jokes he'll be lost for hours (or on the phone to the police)

[Hal65]

9 hours ago, CNXBKKMAN said:

Hal65 that first fixed gear bike is popular with teenagers and young adults. It costs more than the first bike you posted but is arguably worse. 

     A 61cm framed bike is difficult to find but it suitable for someone who is 6 foot 2 or thereabouts. Are you that tall? 

      Buying a frame and building up your own bike will cost you more than buying a complete bike if you are not a bike expert which I don't think you are from your posts. 

     Best advice find out what the best bike shops are in your area. Visit them and try some Giant, Trek , Merida in the 13000- 15000 baht range. The shop might be able to order a big size?  These will be good bikes which will be enjoyable to ride. If later you find you don't like cycling or never use it, they are easy to sell. 

Yes I'm 6'2." I'll see if any local shops have the bigger bikes.

[el jefe]

10 hours ago, Hal65 said:

^This guy lacks the ability to read figurative language. If we start cracking Thai jokes he'll be lost for hours (or on the phone to the police)

Nah. The only thing I can't figure out is why I tried to help in the first place. I just wish I could be there when you try to coast on your fixie for the first time.

[bobfish]

4 hours ago, el jefe said:

Nah. The only thing I can't figure out is why I tried to help in the first place. I just wish I could be there when you try to coast on your fixie for the first time.

I've tried to avoid commenting on this thread, but: Oh c'mon El Jefe; what could go wrong? Fixed gear and flat pedals driving a quality 'Red' spec chain....           that front brake will save the day! 

[Hal65]

12 hours ago, el jefe said:

Nah. The only thing I can't figure out is why I tried to help in the first place. I just wish I could be there when you try to coast on your fixie for the first time.

I can tell you've learned a lot through the head on the floor technique from your projection of what will surely happen. I mean, you can't learn without crashing obviously.

 

Actually you can. The rest of us tend to start at slow speed in parking lots. 

Edited February 16, 2017 by Hal65