Rimmer Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Please cease this private argument you have made your points now let it be, thank you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompelli Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 When the ferry did it's initial trial runs, they had a sensible limited capacity of 150. When visiting the booking site : https://12go.asia/en/travel/pattaya/hua-hin?date=2017-03-22#!popup/en/operator/royal-passenger-liner they are still stating capacity at 150? If it pleases the usual suspects, yes, I am the only one that is asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 14/03/2017 at 2:20 AM, StefanBBK said: 50 to 60% capacity means also 40 to 50% empty. Don't know how much their operation cost is, but it seems like very tight margins.... No worries who is paying for the losses, not a problem Hua Hin much nicer, so please send our tourists whats left of them there as so much safer on the other coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 18 hours ago, balo said: What do you mean by back tracking ? We don't know if it will be a success yet , we only know they claim to have the ferry 50% full of passengers daily based on one news report. That's not much to base a success story on, don't you agree ? agree 100% with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organic Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 On 18/03/2017 at 9:33 AM, tompelli said: When the ferry did it's initial trial runs, they had a sensible limited capacity of 150. When visiting the booking site : https://12go.asia/en/travel/pattaya/hua-hin?date=2017-03-22#!popup/en/operator/royal-passenger-liner they are still stating capacity at 150? If it pleases the usual suspects, yes, I am the only one that is asking. Thanks, was about to ask if there's a booking site. Like someone else said, it has to be an improvement on a mini-van driven by a lunatic. The safety concerns pale into insignificance compared with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 On 3/18/2017 at 4:33 AM, gdgbb said: Come on, the very first sentence of the OP references it's success by using that word and "we" do know that it is a success so far because the company has reported that it is. If anyone is doubting the company's claim then they should provide some tangible evidence, surely? You may see the operator's claim as impartial but it's all that anyone can go on; no one on Thaivisa is in a credible position to doubt the operator's report. I hope it will be a successful & viable transport service. On the other hand, a couple clunker, ill/non-maintained Koh Larn ferries seem to go down every year. At least they are close to sea traffic lanes & most people are rescued. If one of these ferries catches fire, in Timbuktu Gulf of Siam.... Better hope you brought your own life jacket from the USA or Europe or OZ, as the junk they pass out will be 20 years old and/or the cheapest thing they can find, much like the motorcycle helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 hours ago, jaywalker said: I hope it will be a successful & viable transport service. If one of these ferries catches fire, in Timbuktu Gulf of Siam.... Better hope you brought your own life jacket from the USA or Europe or OZ, as the junk they pass out will be 20 years old and/or the cheapest thing they can find, much like the motorcycle helmets. As you must have been on the HH ferry to know that the "junk" life vest they pass out "are 20 years old", what did you think of the trip? You must be the only Thaivisa member to have used it so far, why not share it here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, gdgbb said: As you must have been on the HH ferry to know that the "junk" life vest they pass out "are 20 years old", what did you think of the trip? You must be the only Thaivisa member to have used it so far, why not share it here? Thanks for the "Like" (that won't make you many friends on here!), what was the trip to HH like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, gdgbb said: As you must have been on the HH ferry to know that the "junk" life vest they pass out "are 20 years old", what did you think of the trip? You must be the only Thaivisa member to have used it so far, why not share it here? Never been on it buddy, but have taken at least 100 trips to Ko Larn on the ferries with my wife & daughter. They had life jackets that had been hanging on the rafters and/or backs of seats, that were so sun-bleached, they'd have fallen apart if you sneezed on them. I always brought our own life jackets with us. Luckily, we never had to use them. I wish this ferry service the best of luck (and all who use them), but feel it's a disaster in the making. --------------- I was on Koh Phang An once, & could see the boats hauling a$$ between there & Samui at night. Sure enough 6 people died that night in a 30 foot speedboat. They'd illegally modified it from 2 to 3 engines & had it going 80 kph or so when the steering cable broke. It capsized & killed people. ------------- I had bought tickets for a "Catamaran" out to Phang An for the wife & I & got presented with pretty much the same boat the next day (about 3 days before the fatal wreck). It was most assuredly NOT what I'd seen on the tourist flyer. Next, being the STUPID-BOY I am, I got us a ride on a long-tail boat around Phang-An. It was akin to riding a slave galley with the gunwales of the boat just barely above the waves, replete with a 4 cylinder Isuzu truck engine, with no muffler whatsoever blasting us around the waves. The guy driving that boat every day had to be stone-cold deaf. I peeled 4 cigarettes out & tore the butts off so we'd have earplugs. Suffice it to say that I don't have a lot of respect for Thai mariners. --------------- First time I went to Koh Larn they had ancient jet-skis rigged up with 20 hp Yamaha outboard engines! That thing could chop your neck off! Edited March 21, 2017 by jaywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, jaywalker said: Never been on it buddy, but have taken at least 100 trips to Ko Larn on the ferries with my wife & daughter. I wish this ferry service the best of luck (and all who use them), but feel it's a disaster in the making. Didn't think that you had been on it! So why suggest that nonsense about the life vests when there is no connection and certainly no comparison between the Koh Larn ferries and the Hua Hin ferry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, gdgbb said: Didn't think that you had been on it! So why suggest that nonsense about the life vests when there is no connection and certainly no comparison between the Koh Larn ferries and the Hua Hin ferry? Err... because they depart from the same pier?, Which is has been a cluster-<deleted> since day one of its existence? I was there 2 months after the pier opened & some guy got electrocuted & died. Vely professional people indeed. I'm terrified of any Thai mass transport. Mayhaps this new ferry does have brand new life jackets? Give it a year & they'll be rotten pieces of junk. Once again I'll wish the best of luck to the operators and passengers, and if you like the service, then "Move out & draw Fire...Sir". Not saying it's doomed, just saying that I think it's a Titanic waiting to happen. It's not much different from your average mini-van or bus ride. Edited March 21, 2017 by jaywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anotheruser Posted March 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2017 Still not sure why people so desperately want to see this ferry fail? Good news that it has already outlived many TV members predictions of never getting off the ground. From some of the reactions on TV you would think every time the ferry sailed kittens dropped dead or something. I guess some people can't afford it so they hope nobody can use it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Off topic vid of the Hindenburg disaster removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Didn't think that you had been on it! So why suggest that nonsense about the life vests when there is no connection and certainly no comparison between the Koh Larn ferries and the Hua Hin ferry?Why dont you go check it out yourself , take a ferry trip to HH and give us a positive story for a change ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Still not sure why people so desperately want to see this ferry fail? Good news that it has already outlived many TV members predictions of never getting off the ground. From some of the reactions on TV you would think every time the ferry sailed kittens dropped dead or something. I guess some people can't afford it so they hope nobody can use it.I don't think anyone wants it to fail ,but it will ,parked eventually next to the Submarines,Dredgers,Aircraft Carrier, and all the other good ideas.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, Ace of Pop said: I don't think anyone wants it to fail ,but it will ,parked eventually next to the Submarines,Dredgers,Aircraft Carrier, and all the other good ideas. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Seems to be on schedule for now. It can just break even and it is another service for anybody to use. People predicted it wouldn't get this far, yet it has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 People can't see the accounts,so it's all speculation Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 5 hours ago, balo said: Why dont you go check it out yourself , take a ferry trip to HH and give us a positive story for a change ? Don't need to, I'm not the one slagging it off with no evidence whatsoever to justify the denigration. This OP started out as a positive story but was derailed by almost every poster until it became a negative story so what would be the point of my giving a rational trip report? The usual Thai bashers would just start a new rant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Ace of Pop said: People can't see the accounts,so it's all speculation Absolutely spot on. The company announced it was a success so far in the OP and every single Thaivisa poster who is saying that it isn't, can't be and won't be a success is speculating as per usual. A handful of them are even suggesting that their speculation carries some weight which, by definition, it can't do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 6 hours ago, Rimmer said: Off topic vid of the Hindenburg disaster removed. LOL........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Posted March 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2017 I took the ferry on Tuesday and had a very good experience. There weren't a lot of people; I think there were around 40 in the lower deck. The business class section, seemed like it had quite a few. The sea was calm and the boat departed on time and arrived exactly on time in HH. They have airport-style security, with luggage being X-rayed and passengers going through a metal detector which I think a lot of people were not expecting and this made the boarding process a little slow because a fair amount of luggage ended up having to be opened and checked. It's not as extreme as airport security. I think that if the ferry had been full, without advanced notice of the screening procedures, it would have been slow going. That said, it was a nice trip, beverages were served and it made for getting to a meeting one heck of a lot nicer that dealing with the roads, traffic and drivers. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Scott said: I took the ferry on Tuesday and had a very good experience. There weren't a lot of people; I think there were around 40 in the lower deck. The business class section, seemed like it had quite a few. The sea was calm and the boat departed on time and arrived exactly on time in HH. They have airport-style security, with luggage being X-rayed and passengers going through a metal detector which I think a lot of people were not expecting and this made the boarding process a little slow because a fair amount of luggage ended up having to be opened and checked. It's not as extreme as airport security. I think that if the ferry had been full, without advanced notice of the screening procedures, it would have been slow going. That said, it was a nice trip, beverages were served and it made for getting to a meeting one heck of a lot nicer that dealing with the roads, traffic and drivers. It sounds like they are discriminating against criminals with contraband in their luggage... But seriously why all the high security? For what purpose? I have never had a big security check on any in-country ferry or boat any where.. Is a ferry really different from a bus? Or a train? Is not the Koh larn ferry a ferry also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I have no idea why they have the security. Maybe because it's new? They weren't taking anything away from anyone, but they were checking things carefully. The security is something that just needs to be advertised a little more so that people are prepared. We were all boarded in good time, but if that ferry was full and the security at the speed that it was, I suspect we would have been delayed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Yet another interesting topic 'destroyed' by the antics of some moronic, anally-retentive posters. Might I suggest that some posters take their daily medication before posting. Perhaps even better would be if they didn't post at all :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo72 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 at those prices give it a year and it will be history.I bet Red Label whiskey had that same mentality when they decided to import into Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ldiablo72 said: I bet Red Label whiskey had that same mentality when they decided to import into Thailand. ok lets see if you are still singing the same tune in a years time Edited March 24, 2017 by catman20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, ldiablo72 said: I bet Red Label whiskey had that same mentality when they decided to import into Thailand. People seem to always have money for alcohol drugs and hookers.. But can be pretty cheap when it comes to transportation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, fforest1 said: People seem to always have money for alcohol drugs and hookers.. But can be pretty cheap when it comes to transportation... good point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I don't think there are enough people "curious about Hua Hin" to make it worth while. If someone has a meeting or purpose, ok. But, most don't. Why then go there?, for the beach and eat? You can do that in Pats. Hua Hin seems to me to be pretty boring and full of over priced hotels. I don't see enough future demand from Pattaya to keep this ferry afloat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 9 hours ago, bkk6060 said: I don't see enough future demand from Pattaya to keep this ferry afloat. Unless the Thais start using it and we get normal fares that everyone can afford. I am waiting for that to happen . 500-600 baht would be ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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