CGW Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, heybruce said: Don't mistake the view of the USA with the views of Trump. He lost the popular vote by a significant margin. ~63 million did vote for him though, do they have no significance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttl Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I think Trump has some.old, cheap submarines for sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
featography Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I bet 100THB against your stale donut Trump will need a Thai translator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 It doesn't matter who voted for him or didn't. When there is a threat of war- the American people rally around the President and the military. This is no different. Apparently, the military and the intelligence agencies see a clear and persistent danger if North Korea gets an intercontinental ballistic missile that can mate a nuclear warhead and deliver it to the United States. The risk that the North would be tempted to fire it and kill millions of Americans is real because the North Korean regime has indicated it will do just that. I don't like Trump but what I see now is he reacting to the realities of what can occur and listening to his military leadership. He is preparing for war but I am sure he doesn't want it and is hoping the chinese can negotiate a settlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Off topic trolling posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: He said Thailand is ready to give cooperation and support in any issue that will benefit the world community. Don't look now general but your own house needs a bit of a sweep up. Well general off to the tailor for a whole new wardrobe no doubt. You truly want to make an impression. I am sure you both have a lot in common. Try and not pick up any bad habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, Thaidream said: It doesn't matter who voted for him or didn't. When there is a threat of war- the American people rally around the President and the military. This is no different. Apparently, the military and the intelligence agencies see a clear and persistent danger if North Korea gets an intercontinental ballistic missile that can mate a nuclear warhead and deliver it to the United States. The risk that the North would be tempted to fire it and kill millions of Americans is real because the North Korean regime has indicated it will do just that. I don't like Trump but what I see now is he reacting to the realities of what can occur and listening to his military leadership. He is preparing for war but I am sure he doesn't want it and is hoping the chinese can negotiate a settlement. It almost looks like who will blink first between China and the US. Maybe China has over estimated Trump hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 20 minutes ago, featography said: I bet 100THB against your stale donut Trump will need a Thai translator Prawit or Wissau should fit the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 This puts Thailand on a spot, this will test loyalty and who's an ally,.......................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, elgordo38 said: Prawit or Wissau should fit the bill. Pawtwit for sure , the beacon of honest opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 10 hours ago, steven100 said: Asia's PM's and specifically Thailands PM Khun Prayuth have been invited to the white house, Australia's PM Turnball is invited to a decommissioned boat on the hudson ... More to the point, to celebrate the battle of the Coral sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, CGW said: ~63 million did vote for him though, do they have no significance? 66 million voted for Clinton. So the best you can say is that Trump represents a minority of the voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 ... let see, 45 has a sub for sale, good price it is the USS GATO, at Pier 39 San Francisco for the Navy Admirals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, heybruce said: 66 million voted for Clinton. So the best you can say is that Trump represents a minority of the voters. So the USA is not a true democracy? maybe thats why "they" have been invited, Trump needs some pointers on continuing the illusion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 5 hours ago, nikmar said: Prayut can return the favour with a trip to Mae Hong Son!!! Sent from my SM-J700F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app or better yet that wonderful family sea side resort area the PM keeps harping on about - Pattaya - Trump would be right at home at the Pussy Bar :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicai99 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 11 hours ago, steven100 said: Asia's PM's and specifically Thailands PM Khun Prayuth have been invited to the white house, Australia's PM Turnball is invited to a decommissioned boat on the hudson ... Well, Malaysian leader didnt even get invited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 8 hours ago, steven100 said: well whatever .... but it's obvious that Trump acknowledges that Khun Prayuth is the PM ... Trump will bring him in to discuss the trade issues that were already mentioned in past reports. Thailand is on that list. Trump is about business. That's the only reason some of these 3rd world whack jobs are getting invites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pentap Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I wonder why?Could it possibly be to try and increase, US forces bases within South East Asia? Hummmm?How sad humans can be, by threatening to destroy one another, when we as humans have only one home, our World. We have nowhere else to go! Crazy!Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, CGW said: So the USA is not a true democracy? maybe thats why "they" have been invited, Trump needs some pointers on continuing the illusion! No country has unlimited democracy. USA has a democracy constrained by a constitution that arose as part of the philosophical struggles between the republicans and federalists early in the nation's history. The electoral college is one of the artifacts of this struggle, and was original implemented with the idea of preventing blatantly unqualified populists from becoming president. Unfortunately it didn't work. In spite of this, I still prefer a qualified democracy as opposed to the unqualified government that can not be named in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, heybruce said: No country has unlimited democracy. USA has a democracy constrained by a constitution that arose as part of the philosophical struggles between the republicans and federalists early in the nation's history. The electoral college is one of the artifacts of this struggle, and was original implemented with the idea of preventing blatantly unqualified populists from becoming president. Unfortunately it didn't work. I take it your not a Trump supporter! while the "people" argue about the rights and wrongs of a corrupt political system and make the facts work in favour of their side, or as they see it, those wielding the real power continue to rule! Just my humble opinion there all tarred with the same brush! I am glad Hilary didn't get in though! Not a very nice person is my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 10 hours ago, robblok said: Looks like Thrump has no problem with an army general in charge.. an invite to the white house.. can anyone remember YL getting one ? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 4 hours ago, heybruce said: 66 million voted for Clinton. So the best you can say is that Trump represents a minority of the voters. Makes no difference quite a few US Presidents did not win the popular vote , Trump was even leading in popular votes untill crazy California votes were counted. The electorial college pics the Pres and was formed so that no one or two densely populated states could over rule the will of the rest of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 11 hours ago, steven100 said: well whatever .... but it's obvious that Trump acknowledges that Khun Prayuth is the PM ... It is a great pity that the Thai people have never been given the same opportunity in an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicamera Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 8 hours ago, elgordo38 said: Trump wants to learn about governing from the best. And you know what with the rest. Lonely Clown aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, Leicamera said: Lonely Clown aren't you? No not really always fishing for responses. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 hours ago, CGW said: I take it your not a Trump supporter! while the "people" argue about the rights and wrongs of a corrupt political system and make the facts work in favour of their side, or as they see it, those wielding the real power continue to rule! Just my humble opinion there all tarred with the same brush! I am glad Hilary didn't get in though! Not a very nice person is my opinion! Hillary is not a very nice person, so you prefer a dangerous incompetent as President and Commander in Chief of the world's largest military with enough nukes to destroy civilization. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Tony125 said: Makes no difference quite a few US Presidents did not win the popular vote , Trump was even leading in popular votes untill crazy California votes were counted. The electorial college pics the Pres and was formed so that no one or two densely populated states could over rule the will of the rest of the country. "The electorial college pics the Pres and was formed so that no one or two densely populated states could over rule the will of the rest of the country." No, the electoral college was written into the constitution by the Federalists to prevent people from voting directly for the President. The framers of the constitution wanted people to choose intelligent, educated electors who were to choose the President. As I wrote earlier, the intention was to prevent an incompetent populist from winning the election. The framers of the constitution would be appalled by the outcome of the 2016 election, resulting in a President now on record as saying that the constitutional checks and balances are archaic and need to be changed. However the implementation of the electoral college evolved in the years since the constitution was written to make it a method that effectively gives people from small states a disproportionate say in who is elected President. It is moving in the direction of the rotten boroughs that used to be involved in selecting people to the British Parliament. Back on topic, since entering office Trump has demonstrated respect and admiration for dictatorial strongmen--Putin, Xi Jimping, Erdogan, el-Sisi, and even Kim Jong-un. Prayut and Duterte fit right in with this esteemed group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4546543 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Since Thailand stuffed up in supporting the Japs during WW11, they have been very careful to tiptoe around the world stage in terms of diplomacy and allies. Even during the American war in Vietnam, they managed to send only a few troops who did not participate much in actual fighting. Sure they provided air bases but did not supply aircraft. Since Obama pushed the Kingdom towards China, the US now understands that upsetting the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Indonesia for perceived American moral reasons of their values of truth, democracy and American ways does not suit all Asian or opinions of other countries throughout the world. Trump and the US are adopting better understandings of how to influence former friends and not upset other countries through moral posturing and sanctions. Far better to overlook some issues than totally alienate former friends and allies. It is called growing up and behaving like an adult in diplomatic wooing of friends. As for Thailand being under pressure to hurt citizens of other countries, now living in Thailand - not going to happen unless any of those people can not afford to stay. Thailand is only concerned about your cash, not where you come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 President Trump is a business man, and it is still good business to talk with people from around the world who live in friendly countries like Thailand, Singapore, Phillipines, and Vietnam. None of these Asian countries are trying to build a nuclear bomb, so why not invite them to the Whitehouse, nothing wrong with that. Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsocr Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 All this BS about elections and other talk is way of the topic. Trump stepped up outreach to allies in Asia to secure their cooperation to pressure North Korea over its nuclear and missile programs. The US already has met with Japan and S. Korea and Singapore. Now the need is to pull in 2 countries (Thailand and Philippines) that have been leaning more toward China.There is nothing right now facing this region that is a bigger threat than what is happening in North Korea.I believe the US is trying to line up the largest coalition possible in the region to present a united front against North Korea. I am happy to see the US trying to do this multilaterally rather than try to solve it on our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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