Has Anyone Noticed A Slow Up with Internet connections today?

[rainman]

By mistake you might get in contact with pornographic content or even prostitutes.

An this may also happen to inocent Thai people, as such things does not exist here, they will be complete shocked.

I always knew those girls standing on the street after midnight were just waiting for the bus ...

[Cuban]

In cases like this what will work and what will not depends on a number of factors and how well thought out the built in resilliance is to both the hardware infrastructure and the software web site you are atempting to get to are. DNS will take time to refresh so if hosting servers for a particular web site are down if HSRP is in place you should just continue as normal as the alternate site is already up and accepting traffic but if the DNS record is stuck or corrupt you are stuff unless you know and use an alternate direct IP address rather than the public DNS listed IP; hence the comments above about using an IP address rather than a URL name (www.<deleted>.com).

However if there is no route availible between where you are (or rather your ISP's connection to The Internet - note captial letters) and the hosting server of your target web site you will get a "Host Unavailible - error 500" type message. This will be the case even where there IS an open and valid connection say from Thailand to Singapore, but because of connections being rerouted due to a regional incident, the normally availible bandwidth is cut down to a small percentage of what was in use previously. The result is limited access, some sessions to remote server will get through others will not.

In these days of web awareness and the world wide incidents (911, 77, Pakistan, 26-Dec'04) the world reaches for their cell phone and email with the same breath, the result is instance congestion. The telco companies of the world are aware of this so telephone calls will have a priority over www traffic using the same data connections and even those telephone calls are subjected to limitations, in the hours after 911 AT&T implimented their emergency process to limit congestion on the US telephone network with the "50 failure" process, 50% of all calls would fail before they were allowed to access a telephone line (ie you hear the dialing tone), this helps limit traffic on the links between states/countries.

The problems encoutered most often is no access to a DNS, either due to poor routing or congestion. The next is over ambitious expectations on the system that is availible. Generally in times of such inidents it is wise to switch your browser to a low graphics setting or option if possible, you are interesting in getting news and information not fancy graphics, Flash animation and pop up adverts, all these extras eat bandwidth and are often coded into web sites so you are forced to "see" the advert from the fee paying company before you get to the few lines of text you are interested in.

Low Graphics - news on the quake.

High Graphic - Packed with adverts and images.

Worth a few minutes of your time learning how to get information in times of need, 'cos in times of need you don't have the time or the resources to learn...

[astral]

=SINGAPORE: -- Singapore Telecommunications Ltd. Southeast Asia's largest telephone company, and Hong Kong's PCCW Ltd. said Internet service in Asia slowed down after three earthquakes hit southern Taiwan yesterday.

PCCW, Hong Kong's largest phone company, said data capacity on its networks was reduced to 50 percent due to the quake.

``The repairs could take two to three weeks,'' Leng said. ``We're doing our best to coordinate with other operators in the region to resolve the problem.''

As of 3pm 27th, Telekom Malaysia did not even know it had happened...........

Well, no mention on their website.

[rainman]

ThaiVisa seems to be hosted in Singapore, right? How is the connection to the internet in Singapore right now? I'm thinking that connecting to a proxy server in Singapore and then going from there would solve most people's problems.

[sbk]

148.233.229.235:8080

and 148.233.l229.235:3128

: 403 forbidden You were denied access because:

Access denied by access control list.

[RBO]

Without cat maybe cencoring internet does not work so good anymore. Who is than protecting you ?

Human sense?

By mistake you might get in contact with pornographic content or even prostitutes.

Happens to me daily. Even with the 'perfect filter of CAT'...

An this may also happen to inocent Thai people, as such things does not exist here, they will be complete shocked.

Time to wake up? Time changes as well as generations.

As well there are places where they play games for money, thats also complete shocking for Thailand.

All that evil foreign things must be outside. Who can do that better than CAT?

'places where they play games for money, thats also complete shocking for Thailand'...c'mon

Sometimes, those 'evil foreign things' has its good sides too.

Well, i'm pretty sure that there are a lot of vendors and firms out there which will do this job much better and have a lot more knowledge with censoring systems than CAT.

[taxexile]

how can i get thai visa on "low graphics"

is that option available? the ads drive me nuts.

[Jared]

Sorry if this question has already been asked before but if i was to read the whole thread with the connection speed it woul dtake me hours. Has anyone worked out a way to get into there hotmail accounts? Ive got some important emails I need to reply to but i havent been able to get the service working. Thanks

[StickKettleOn]

Some very interesting posts made by a few very clued up people, explaining the whys and hows.

To these few posters; would you be able to offer an opinion of how long this may take to get back to tolerant surfing levels?

I guess today/tommorow would be hoping too much, judging by the reports that it will take 2/3 weeks to fix?

Im kinda lost here.... its tragic that so many of us are so dependable of the internet...!

[rainman]

Does anyone at this point have internet access in Thailand, without a proxy?

[astral]

Seemed to me a familiar story, same thing happened in 2001 and it took 2-3 weeks to repair it:

Undersea cable problem snarls Internet access in Taiwan

Asian Economic News, Feb 12, 2001

TAIPEI, Feb. 9 Kyodo

Don't they ever learn from previous mistakes.........................

You just do not put all your eggs in one basket,

as any rural Thai will tell you.

[rainman]

Some very interesting posts made by a few very clued up people, explaining the whys and hows.

To these few posters; would you be able to offer an opinion of how long this may take to get back to tolerant surfing levels?

I guess today/tommorow would be hoping too much, judging by the reports that it will take 2/3 weeks to fix?

Im kinda lost here.... its tragic that so many of us are so dependable of the internet...!

Probably nobody can tell for sure. I'd love to say it will be back to normal in 6 hours but its probably anywhere from tomorrow to 4 weeks.

[girlx]

finally found a proxy from that second list that works pretty well, can access everything now. thanks everyone!

[rainman]

Is anyone living in the US, Canada, Australia or anywhere in Europe with no problems to access the internet able to signup for one of those dialup internet packages? Or has a dialup account they don't need? I'm happy to pay you for it, of course. This is a serious request, please send me a PM if you can assist.

[HedKeeQuai]

It's 8:20pm in South Pattaya, and my Internet now seems to be functioning OK.

This morning I was unable to view Google & Hotmail, and I was unable to sign in to MSN.

I have just done all 3 things without problem, and without using a proxy.

Yay

[rainman]

It's 8:20pm in South Pattaya, and my Internet now seems to be functioning OK.

This morning I was unable to view Google & Hotmail, and I was unable to sign in to MSN.

I have just done all 3 things without problem, and without using a proxy.

Yay

Most interesting. What ISP are you using? Looks like i might spend New Years in Pattaya!

[monty]

I'm getting pretty much everything now, albeit a bit slower then normal...

Hotmail is still a no go though...

Rainman, for just reading the text only version (pretty fast, even on gprs) scroll down and click on LOFI version at the bottom of the screen.

[HedKeeQuai]

Most interesting. What ISP are you using? Looks like i might spend New Years in Pattaya!

TOT, ADSL.

[csmith]

Wednesday evening (based in Chiangmai)

TT&T / Loxinfo ADSL 256/128 line

Just made a one hour Skype call from Chiangmai to Australia .... worked well .. no problem at all .... BTW if you are not a Skype user then highly recommended .... I phoned from my laptop to a home land-line regular phone in Sydney ... cost about Baht20 for the hour ....

But some other applications are slow .... i.e. listening to Hong Kong radio is not as smooth as usual .... intermitent .... a HK-based email server is working fine ..... USA-based server cannot cannot connect with Outlook .... but interesting that a web-based mail reader has no problem reading the same USA mail.

Merry ChrisSmith

[indothai]

Seemed to me a familiar story, same thing happened in 2001 and it took 2-3 weeks to repair it:

Undersea cable problem snarls Internet access in Taiwan

Asian Economic News, Feb 12, 2001

TAIPEI, Feb. 9 Kyodo

Don't they ever learn from previous mistakes.........................

You just do not put all your eggs in one basket,

as any rural Thai will tell you.

I guess its all about the statistics/risk game... crap happens every 6 years or so... and that seems to be an acceptable risk.

Another acceptable risk is to run underwater cables thru the most violent places on the planet... then hope that nothing happens and then make that one of the busiest network hubs on the planet.

[DragonQuest]

I had a msn messenger problem, after an hour i fixed it , i hope lol, i cant view some website either........ hope everyone is ok in Taiwan ; ;

[rainman]

Seems OK now in Bangkok with TRUE. All websites accessible, but a bit slower than usual.

[george]

ThaiVisa seems to be hosted in Singapore, right? How is the connection to the internet in Singapore right now? I'm thinking that connecting to a proxy server in Singapore and then going from there would solve most people's problems.

Should work, depending of your ISP's filtering rules.

[sbk]

T-net dialup in Surat and finally accessing sites without a proxy.

[Prasert]

One would think other connections take over in case a specific connection goes down. That's what TCP/IP was developed for originally.

But these days it all comes down to peering agreements. Big ISPs who own international links are payed by other ISPs to transport their traffic. So the routers choose a pre-defined route based on the destination.

Example: do a traceroute from Thailand to 81.171.100.1 and to 62.177.136.81. Both are physically located in the Netherlands, but the path to these addresses are completely different.

So, technically, it would be easy to manually alter these paths with temporary peering agreements and have full internet connectivity again. It's very likely that the more advanced ISPs in Asia are already doing this - they won't wait for some cable to be repaired!

[cdnvic]

how can i get thai visa on "low graphics"

is that option available? the ads drive me nuts.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/lofiversion/...php/t98548.html

Link is down at the bottom of the page.

[rainman]

Only www service is working for me right now, no POP3, SMTP, etc.

[inf]

Here in Taiwan, I couldn't make phone calls to China, Hong Kong or Bangkok at the office this morning, and vice versa.

But funnily enough, I've had no problems at all with the internet.

At the airports, computer systems were down so they had to write tickets and boarding passes by hand, slowing things down.

As to those cables in the ocean, it seems it will take two to three weeks before they can get that repaired. Wonder if that means all those problems will take that long.

[autonomous_unit]

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So, technically, it would be easy to manually alter these paths with temporary peering agreements and have full internet connectivity again. It's very likely that the more advanced ISPs in Asia are already doing this - they won't wait for some cable to be repaired!

Unfortunately, reestablishing connectivity is not enough if the faults have reduced the aggregate link capacity too much. For example, I can ping and even connect with TCP to some hosts in the US now over my TOT ADSL, but the higher level session protocols such as SSH, IMAPS, etc. are timing out before they make sufficient progress. While the round-trip ping times are lower than I experienced with GPRS in the past, the packet loss rates are too high.

Peering arrangements and differentiated service (pay more, get more capacity) will also be important in the new re-routed network.

[aaaaaa]

I think my interenet connection works normal as usually