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Jatuporn calls for assurance on social contract in light of ‘negative remarks by some government figures’

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Jatuporn Prompan

 

United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship chair Jatuporn Prompan on Tuesday called for an assurance to be made on the so-called “social contract” from the government’s reconciliation committee.

 

He said this was necessary given that some government figures kept making negative remarks about the coming general election, mocking the pre-coup atmosphere in a way that was unhealthy to reconciliation efforts.

 

In his view, the only way to stop such remarks was an assurance on the social contract that would be made upon agreement by all sides attending the reconciliation talks that had been held during the past few months. 

 

If this were not done, the election would be in trouble, Jatuporn said, without elaborating further.

 

He also called on the public to help keep an eye on the development of the social contract.

 

The government-initiated reconciliation committee, chaired by Deputy Prime Minister Pravit Wongsuwan, invited political parties and factions to take part in talks during the past few months, before forwarding the inputs to its sub-panels for development into a social contract, which it expected to be agreed upon by concerned parties.

 

The government hopes that such a contract would lead to political peace before the general election and that all players could enter election mode together next year.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30317356

 
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11 minutes ago, halloween said:

Why is the deferred court case against him and other UDD members not proceeding, now those granted parliamentary immunity as a reward for their crimes have been expelled from parliament?

For the same reason that the court cases against the PAD, the PDRC and that Red Bull kid aren't proceeding.

 

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1 minute ago, Smarter Than You said:

For the same reason that the court cases against the PAD, the PDRC and that Red Bull kid aren't proceeding.

 

PAD court cases are proceeding, most finalised, Jatuporn et al precede PDRC, and AFAIK most UDD members waiting court have not left the country.

 

Justice delayed is justice denied, and a deliberate tactic of the PTP government.

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15 minutes ago, halloween said:

PAD court cases are proceeding, most finalised, Jatuporn et al precede PDRC, and AFAIK most UDD members waiting court have not left the country.

 

Justice delayed is justice denied, and a deliberate tactic of the PTP government.

PAD cases are proceeding - one would hope so, after all they committed their crimes way back in the 2005 -2008 period.

How is it that Yingluck jumped the queue - surely it's not her turn for at least another decade.

 

A deliberate tactic?

How exactly have PTP been delaying the courts for the last 3 years?

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56 minutes ago, Smarter Than You said:

PAD cases are proceeding - one would hope so, after all they committed their crimes way back in the 2005 -2008 period.

How is it that Yingluck jumped the queue - surely it's not her turn for at least another decade.

 

A deliberate tactic?

How exactly have PTP been delaying the courts for the last 3 years?

 

Did the poster mention 'in the last three years'?

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15 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Did the poster mention 'in the last three years'?

Just what did the poster mention?

 

"PAD court cases are proceeding, most finalised, Jatuporn et al precede PDRC, and AFAIK most UDD members waiting court have not left the country.

Justice delayed is justice denied, and a deliberate tactic of the PTP government".

 

The poster states that deliberately delaying justice is a tactic of PTP.

The poster is also upset (in the first sentence) that the case against Jutaporn is not proceeding (note the use of a present tense)

 

So the inference is clear - the case against Jutaporn is not proceeding (now - in the present) because of the PTP tactic of delaying justice.

 

That really does beg the question - how have PTP been able to implement their tactic of delaying justice (current court proceedings) in the last three years when they've had absolutely no control over the executive, judicial or legislative?

 

If A = B and B = C, then A must =C

Ain't logic a biatch?

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16 hours ago, halloween said:

PAD court cases are proceeding, most finalised, Jatuporn et al precede PDRC, and AFAIK most UDD members waiting court have not left the country.

 

Justice delayed is justice denied, and a deliberate tactic of the PTP government.

And here I thought it was the junta who were in charge for the last 3 years....you know, the guys who overthrew the legal government and gave themselves the mother of all amnesties.:coffee1:

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The cases were initially delayed by some of the defendants being appointed as party list MPs. I am asking why they are not proceeding NOW.

 

Of course, as soon as they do, the Thaksin sycophants will be claiming political persecution.

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5 minutes ago, halloween said:

The cases were initially delayed by some of the defendants being appointed as party list MPs. I am asking why they are not proceeding NOW.

 

Of course, as soon as they do, the Thaksin sycophants will be claiming political persecution.

Who's fault is it that things aren't proceeding now?

Who has absolute control over every root and branch of the government and the judiciary?

I'm sure if you put your tinfoil hat on and think really hard about it you'll come up with the correct answer.

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Just now, Smarter Than You said:

Who's fault is it that things aren't proceeding now?

Who has absolute control over every root and branch of the government and the judiciary?

I'm sure if you put your tinfoil hat on and think really hard about it you'll come up with the correct answer.

Thank you for pointing out the bleeding obvious. I am and was fully aware of the current political position - that didn't stop me from asking a reasonable question.

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Just now, halloween said:

Thank you for pointing out the bleeding obvious. I am and was fully aware of the current political position - that didn't stop me from asking a reasonable question.

Come on say it... can't you bring yourself to type the words.

 

:cheesy:

 

Who's fault is it? - give us a one word response if you can.

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17 hours ago, halloween said:

PAD court cases are proceeding, most finalised, Jatuporn et al precede PDRC, and AFAIK most UDD members waiting court have not left the country.

 

Justice delayed is justice denied, and a deliberate tactic of the PTP government.

Why would the military want him to go to jail

 

Keep him as a free man - a couple of years down the line he will no doubt start stirring up trouble and give the military and elites another reason to stage a coup - Big picture thinking!!

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5 minutes ago, halloween said:

First learn the difference between imply and infer.

Second infering something which you claim is completely illogical when there was no such implication makes you look like an idiot.

imply / infer

Imply and infer are opposites, like a throw and a catch. To imply is to hint at something, but to infer is to make an educated guess. The speaker does the implying, and the listener does the inferring.  

 

We are talking about your post, that makes you the speaker.

 

Scorecard asks - "Did the poster mention 'in the last three years'?

 

What Scorecard wants to know is why am I talking about the last 3 years when you haven'y explicitly mentioned the last three years.

 

The answer - because I have inferred, from reading your dribble, that you believe PTP delay proceedings deliberately and as we are talking about a current case you must believe that PTP are causing the delay in Jutaporn's case right now.

 

This inference is the reason why I have asked the question. - "How exactly have PTP been delaying the courts for the last 3 years?"

 

Shall we talk more about looking like an idiot or not?

 

 

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12 minutes ago, jonclark said:

Why would the military want him to go to jail

 

Keep him as a free man - a couple of years down the line he will no doubt start stirring up trouble and give the military and elites another reason to stage a coup - Big picture thinking!!

Because it not just Jatuporn but a whole collection of UDD rabble rousers who face a series of serious charges and with irrefutable video evidence for at least some of those charges. It was understandable that the other members in a criminal conspiracy would not allow them to face charges, it is not acceptable that the junta allows them to escape prosecution.

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He's put wait on since his prison time for breaching bail conditions. He is still under those conditions so better watch what he says unless he wants to diet.

 

So funny, how the leader of the UDD wasn't actually elected to that positions. Simpy mysteriously appointed 555!

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8 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

He's put wait on since his prison time for breaching bail conditions. He is still under those conditions so better watch what he says unless he wants to diet.

 

So funny, how the leader of the UDD wasn't actually elected to that positions. Simpy mysteriously appointed 555!

So much concern about UDD elections, so little concern about general elections.

Your priorities are perhaps a touch askew.

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5 hours ago, Smarter Than You said:

imply / infer

Imply and infer are opposites, like a throw and a catch. To imply is to hint at something, but to infer is to make an educated guess. The speaker does the implying, and the listener does the inferring.  

 

We are talking about your post, that makes you the speaker.

 

Scorecard asks - "Did the poster mention 'in the last three years'?

 

What Scorecard wants to know is why am I talking about the last 3 years when you haven'y explicitly mentioned the last three years.

 

The answer - because I have inferred, from reading your dribble, that you believe PTP delay proceedings deliberately and as we are talking about a current case you must believe that PTP are causing the delay in Jutaporn's case right now.

 

This inference is the reason why I have asked the question. - "How exactly have PTP been delaying the courts for the last 3 years?"

 

Shall we talk more about looking like an idiot or not?

 

 

 

Apply your posturing to yourself...

 

No need to be abusive.

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