UAE sees 'parting of ways' if Qatar does not accept Arab demands

[Morch]

1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

"Never claimed it was a good idea, never claimed the general view is that it's a good idea. This has nothing to do with the discussion, though."

Yes...and?

You tried inserting some bogus claim to the discussion, rejected.

You raise a new issue, and it was pointed out that it wasn't part of the discussion up to now.

Not too complicated.

[ilostmypassword]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

Yes...and?

You tried inserting some bogus claim to the discussion, rejected.

You raise a new issue, and it was pointed out that it wasn't part of the discussion up to now.

Not too complicated.

No you didn't point out that it wasn't part of the discussion. This is what you wrote. "This has nothing to do with the discussion, though." One would really have to strain, and maybe suffer about of partial agnosia,  to construe that as meaning anything but "not relevant."

 

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

This has nothing to do with the discussion, though."

 

[dexterm]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

More nonsense. If you wish to claim Qatar did nothing whatsoever to aggravate its neighbors (whether you approve of their positions or not), that is your choice. It just makes the exchange pointless.

 

All the Qataris have done to aggravate their neighbors is have a relatively free media outlet and conduct their own foreign policy without kowtowing to the corrupt regimes next door. 

 

You certainly appear to be defending the Saudi and Emirati side against freedom of expression, while feigning impartiality. But we who read your posts regularly know exactly where you are coming from.

[Rimmer]

A couple of baiting flames have been removed

[Morch]

8 minutes ago, dexterm said:

All the Qataris have done to aggravate their neighbors is have a relatively free media outlet and conduct their own foreign policy without kowtowing to the corrupt regimes next door. 

 

You certainly appear to be defending the Saudi and Emirati side against freedom of expression, while feigning impartiality. But we who read your posts regularly know exactly where you are coming from.

 

That would be your simplified view of how things are between Qatar and its neighbors. Acknowledging that the Qatar's neighbors see things otherwise, and have different consideration is not "defending" them. It's what sensible people call perspective. Obviously, you will not find anything in my posts which supports Saudi Arabia's moves, and as for the rest of your personal remarks - well, you'd say that, wouldn't you?

[Morch]

35 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

No you didn't point out that it wasn't part of the discussion. This is what you wrote. "This has nothing to do with the discussion, though." One would really have to strain, and maybe suffer about of partial agnosia,  to construe that as meaning anything but "not relevant."

 

 

 

The usual routine: lacking anything meaningful to add, you resort to putting words in my mouth, twisting words, finding non-existent meanings and engaging in pointless arguments.

 

[ilostmypassword]

40 minutes ago, dexterm said:

All the Qataris have done to aggravate their neighbors is have a relatively free media outlet and conduct their own foreign policy without kowtowing to the corrupt regimes next door. 

 

You certainly appear to be defending the Saudi and Emirati side against freedom of expression, while feigning impartiality. But we who read your posts regularly know exactly where you are coming from.

It's true that the Qataris have been supporting Islamist extremists in Syria. But you know who else has been doing that?

"Although Saudi support for moderate Syrian militias that the United States also backs has persisted, Riyadh has increasingly engaged with Islamist groups whose jihadi-salafi ideology may be characterized as extremist, although these groups are adversaries of the Islamic State. Sometimes described as “nationalist,” these groups claim that they reject the ISIS commitment to a global jihad, focusing instead on the establishment of a theocratic state in Syria alone. Critically for Riyadh, these groups have not challenged the legitimacy of the Saudi kingdom."

http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/content/fpi-bulletin-saudi-arabia-and-syrian-civil-war

So the Saudi indignation against the Qataris in this regard seems somewhat hypocritical and inconsistent. And it's not really what lies at the bottom of their hostility.

Edited June 26, 2017 by ilostmypassword