what's the name of this tree?

[LannaGuy]

anyone know?

[drtreelove]

Not sure without better close up of leaves, although the bark is characteristic if someone is familiar with it. 

 

In any case, don't buy it. Severely headed trees like this, with root systems cut into such a small soil ball, will develop decay through the cut ends a few years down the road, that can advance and eventually cause branch breakage, fungal or phytophthora infections, decay and impairment of conductive tissue, and/ or structural failure at the base,  They may grow out nicely after planting for a few years, and you think you have a good tree, then the problems start as a result of advancing fungal infections from the cut branch and root ends. 

 

I've helped several property owners in Chiang Mai area with diagnosis of this very type of problem. They spent a lot of money for an instant landscape, then in a few years the trees begin to fail.  Local tree movers brutalize trees and don't have a clue about best management practices in arboriculture. 

 

It's better to start with a younger, smaller tree and have some patience as they grow up. Although very often the younger, more vigorous trees will outgrow a mutilated mature tree planting. 

 

 Go all out to create good growing conditions and a good maintenance program:  pruning for structural integrity, soil improvements and water management.  

[LannaGuy]

5 minutes ago, drtreelove said:

Not sure without better close up of leaves, although the bark is characteristic if someone is familiar with it. 

 

In any case, don't buy it. Severely headed trees like this, with root systems cut into such a small soil ball, will develop decay through the cut ends a few years down the road, that can advance and eventually cause branch breakage, fungal or phytophthora infections, decay and impairment of conductive tissue, and/ or structural failure at the base,  They may grow out nicely after planting for a few years, and you think you have a good tree, then the problems start as a result of advancing fungal infections from the cut branch and root ends. 

 

I've helped several property owners in Chiang Mai area with diagnosis of this very type of problem. They spent a lot of money for an instant landscape, then in a few years the trees begin to fail.  Local tree movers brutalize trees and don't have a clue about best management practices in arboriculture. 

 

It's better to start with a younger, smaller tree and have some patience as they grow up. Although very often the younger, more vigorous trees will outgrow a mutilated mature tree planting. 

 

 Go all out to create good growing conditions and a good maintenance program:  pruning for structural integrity, soil improvements and water management.  

very good advice thank you... unfortunately I have bought and installed it before reading your sound and wise advice!  so now I am in the hands of the Tree Gods and fate

[LannaGuy]

[drtreelove]

I sent your inquiry to my friend who is more of a Thailand tree ID expert than I.  He wasn't positive, but says its possibly Barringtonia acutangular  (freshwater mangrove).

 

If so, you will have a high water requirement to fulfill, even swamp conditions to keep it alive and well.  But the good thing is, that swamp trees are used to sitting in water and have higher tolerance to root rot fungal pathogens.

[LannaGuy]

12 hours ago, drtreelove said:

I sent your inquiry to my friend who is more of a Thailand tree ID expert than I.  He wasn't positive, but says its possibly Barringtonia acutangular  (freshwater mangrove).

 

If so, you will have a high water requirement to fulfill, even swamp conditions to keep it alive and well.  But the good thing is, that swamp trees are used to sitting in water and have higher tolerance to root rot fungal pathogens.

Thank you so much... wish I'd researched a bit more instead of just going out and purchasing!  hope it's ok and I'm looking at it as a bit of a gamble now  haha

[drtreelove]

4 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

Thank you so much... wish I'd researched a bit more instead of just going out and purchasing!  hope it's ok and I'm looking at it as a bit of a gamble now  haha

 

I love the trunk and branch structure, and the distinctive bark and the way it contrasts with the decking. The tree in that site has a lot of character. I hope it likes it there and thrives.  When it flowers we can get a positive ID. I'm surprised others on this forum haven't ID'd it already, there are better horticulturists than I who may see this. Or maybe not too many people get into the swamps where this tree may be from. 

 

As it grows out, I don't know how big it will get, but consider having a pole pruner handy for selective pruning to limit excessive branch length and overburdened branch end weight. Because it's in a deck area, you may have more exposure for risk of breakage and property damage or personal injury. Preventive maintenance is the key to safe living under trees. Keep an eye on the attachments where the heading cuts were made, as those points in some species are where decay can advance and weaken the branch structure as it grows out and branches become long and heavy. 

 

But you know, that's a good point you make and I hope others are reading - It's always best to know as much as possible about the plant materials that you are taking into your life and taking on the responsibility for, where they come from, what their native habitats are like, what growing conditions are required for optimum health and longevity, what irrigation they will require, or not. 

 

By the way, did you install an irrigation system under the deck, or do you have a way to shoot water under there? Something to think about before the dry season. If it is in fact a freshwater mangrove tree, then it will require a lot of water. And drench with some compost tea, or a slurry of decaying organic matter. If it's a swamp tree then it will like a muck of decaying organic matter rich mud. The deck will actually prevent some soil moisture loss that otherwise might occur with direct sun. 

 

Don 

[LannaGuy]

On 7/7/2017 at 1:45 PM, drtreelove said:

I love the trunk and branch structure, and the distinctive bark and the way it contrasts with the decking. The tree in that site has a lot of character. I hope it likes it there and thrives.  When it flowers we can get a positive ID. I'm surprised others on this forum haven't ID'd it already, there are better horticulturists than I who may see this. Or maybe not too many people get into the swamps where this tree may be from. 

 

As it grows out, I don't know how big it will get, but consider having a pole pruner handy for selective pruning to limit excessive branch length and overburdened branch end weight. Because it's in a deck area, you may have more exposure for risk of breakage and property damage or personal injury. Preventive maintenance is the key to safe living under trees. Keep an eye on the attachments where the heading cuts were made, as those points in some species are where decay can advance and weaken the branch structure as it grows out and branches become long and heavy. 

 

But you know, that's a good point you make and I hope others are reading - It's always best to know as much as possible about the plant materials that you are taking into your life and taking on the responsibility for, where they come from, what their native habitats are like, what growing conditions are required for optimum health and longevity, what irrigation they will require, or not. 

 

By the way, did you install an irrigation system under the deck, or do you have a way to shoot water under there? Something to think about before the dry season. If it is in fact a freshwater mangrove tree, then it will require a lot of water. And drench with some compost tea, or a slurry of decaying organic matter. If it's a swamp tree then it will like a muck of decaying organic matter rich mud. The deck will actually prevent some soil moisture loss that otherwise might occur with direct sun. 

 

Don 

Thanks Don - very, very helpful.  I'll post any flowering pics when i get some... flowers. I am installing  tap at the base of the tree to ensure easy watering. Yes I bought it as i loved the bark (but it does tend to fall away very easily). The deck has yet to be painted (brown) but I think it suits that spot