Trump's son met Russian lawyer after promise of information on Clinton - NY Times

[Thakkar]

4 minutes ago, iReason said:

Majority of Trump supporters 'don't believe Trump Jr attended Russian lawyer meeting'

Donald Trump Jr has confirmed he took the meeting (sub-title)

 

"Only 45 per cent of Trump voters, the national poll found, believe that Mr Trump Jr met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer 

who promised damaging information on Hillary Clinton."

 

"Forty-four per cent believe Russia wanted Ms Clinton to win."

 

"Seventy-seven per cent of Trump voters said they would support the President staying in office,

even if investigations find he did collude with Russia."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-jr-russian-meeting-poll-majority-supporters-dont-believe-it-happened-despite-son-admitting-it-a7847636.html

 

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

 

T

[craigt3365]

14 minutes ago, binjalin said:

"agents of a foreign adversarial power"?  I'll leave you to it  

 

Once this circus is over let's get back to challenging Trump on his anti pro-choice, anti-marijuana and anti-common health garbage.

That's the problem.  He's created a circus due to his shenanigans.  His style is "managed" chaos.  Could be he's doing all this on purpose?  Or just his style?  Either way, time to focus on the stuff that matter.  Tax reform, health care, etc. 

[iReason]

Another Participant at Trump Jr. Meeting Has Long Russia Ties

 

"He once helped Russians and other Eastern Europeans move $1.4 billion through U.S. banks and, federal authorities claimed, set up more than 2,000 shell companies for anonymous Russian brokers."

 

"And when congressional investigators then suggested money laundering might be involved, he issued a blunt retort in 2000 that rings familiar in Washington today: it was, he said at the time, a “Russian witch hunt.”

 

"Kaveladze’s actions were a prime example of a practice Congress has been trying to crack down on for years -- using shell corporations and bank accounts to allow foreigners to secretly move money into the U.S., said former Senator Carl Levin, who asked for the GAO report."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-19/another-participant-at-trump-jr-meeting-has-long-russia-ties

 

a “Russian witch hunt.” 

 

Follow the money... 

[Skywalker69]

2 hours ago, Skywalker69 said:

WASHINGTON — "Seventeen years ago, congressional investigators looking into money laundering stumbled upon an obscure Soviet-born financier who offered special services to his Russian clients. He had opened 2,000 companies in Delaware and more than 100 bank accounts for Russian clients who moved hundreds of millions of dollars through those accounts to overseas destinations, they found"

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/politics/trump-meeting-russia.html?smid=fb-share

Here is another article.

 

Donald Trump Jr. Met Russian Accused of Laundering $1.4 Billion

 

Ike Kaveladze, who works for the oligarch who arranged the June 2016 in Trump Tower, he was found by the feds using shell companies to move money in the the ‘90s for Russians.

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-jr-met-russian-accused-of-laundering-14-billion-dollars?source=facebook&via=desktop

[iReason]

 

[Thakkar]

More Trump doctrine:

 

5 years ago:

Donald J. Trump (‪@realDonaldTrump‬)

9/2/12, 11:33

 

Jon Huntsman called to see me. I said no, he gave away our country to China! ‪@JonHuntsman‬

 

 

 

China: neither white nor Christian, so: enemy.

Russia: White and Christian and Putin loves Trump, so: friend

Clinton: woman and liberal and doesn't praise Trump, so: enemy

 

T

[Morch]

2 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

That's the problem.  He's created a circus due to his shenanigans.  His style is "managed" chaos.  Could be he's doing all this on purpose?  Or just his style?  Either way, time to focus on the stuff that matter.  Tax reform, health care, etc. 

 

...Could be he's doing all this on purpose?  Or just his style?....

 

"A little bit of this, a little bit of that..."

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLnmMacEB4

[craigt3365]

6 hours ago, binjalin said:

Hello, yes the meeting held in Daddies Tower amongst 100s of other meetings. The one where some of you think Western Democracy was being subverted. Reds under the Bed and all that lol. There's about 4 of you posting rabidly and liking each others posts like there's no tomorrow. Don't you get out much?

Seems there are Reds under the beds. LOL

 

The Russian spies living next door

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/us/russian-spies-united-states-declassified/index.html

[Andaman Al]

Mr Olbermann I think I love you. In this 9 Minutes Olbermann saves Mueller and his prosecutors 6 months of work!

 

 

Edited July 19, 2017 by Andaman Al

[iReason]

14 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Mr Olbermann I think I love you. In this 9 Minutes Olbermann saves Mueller and his prosecutors 6 months of work!

 

 

 

It's a very safe bet professionals like Special Counsel Mueller and others have all this and plenty more.

We just see the crumbs. And I'm already full.

 

One Supersized, Double-Double Fat Burger comin' up!

With all the trimmins...

[binjalin]

On 7/19/2017 at 7:05 PM, craigt3365 said:

Seems there are Reds under the beds. LOL

 

The Russian spies living next door

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/us/russian-spies-united-states-declassified/index.html

No doubt America has many spies there too. Who cares?  it's been going on for decades some you catch some you don't. More important fish to fry.

[iReason]

13 minutes ago, binjalin said:

Who cares?

More important fish to fry.

 

"Who cares?"

 

The House Intelligence Committee

The Senate Intelligence Committee

The Senate Judiciary Committee

The House Oversight Committee

 

And Special Counsel Mueller.

 

Because:

The White House is under criminal investigation for obstruction of justice, collusion, fraud, racketeering, money laundering and espionage.

 

And:

The occupier of the White House' son, along with a Senior White House adviser to his father and a Russian connected Trump campaign director, had a clandestine meeting with agents from a hostile foreign adversary.

Russia.

 

Quite a fish fry buffet right there.

Edited July 26, 2017 by iReason

[binjalin]

2 minutes ago, iReason said:

 

"Who cares?"

 

The House Intelligence Committee

The Senate Intelligence Committee

The Senate Judiciary Committee

The House Oversight Committee

 

And Special Counsel Mueller.

 

Because:

The White House is under criminal investigation for obstruction of justice, collusion, fraud, racketeering, money laundering and espionage.

 

And:

The occupier of the White House' son, along with a Senior White House adviser to his father and a Russian connected Trump campaign director, had a clandestine meeting with agents from a hostile foreign adversary.

Russia.

 

Quite a fish fry buffet right there.

Nothing will come of it and as you all concentrate on nothing Trump does damage elsewhere. Watch and see.

[iReason]

11 minutes ago, binjalin said:

Nothing will come of it and as you all concentrate on nothing Trump does damage elsewhere.

 

You are simply, uninformed.

Perhaps, willfully.

[binjalin]

3 minutes ago, iReason said:

 

You are simply, uninformed.

Perhaps, willfully.

We shall see soon enough and when nothing comes of it be a good fellow and come back on here and admit you were blinded and wrong. To be a success someone would have to be impeached and evidence proved. Fair enough?

[iReason]

8 minutes ago, binjalin said:

To be a success someone would have to be impeached and evidence proved.

 

Correct.

The occupier of the White House will avoid being impeached by resigning in disgrace.

And some will be jailed because of such evidence.

Unless, the inept one commits the fatal error of attempting to pardon them.

(Pardons already being in discussions)

[binjalin]

Just now, iReason said:

 

Correct.

The occupier of the White House will avoid being impeached by resigning in disgrace.

And some will be jailed because of such evidence.

Unless, the inept one commits the fatal error of attempting to pardon them.

(Pardons already being in discussions)

If that happens I will come here and admit I was wrong.

[iReason]

Release the Kushner, Trump Jr. and Manafort interview transcripts:

The public has a right to know how they explain themselves

 

"Fortunately, lying to Congress remains a criminal act, oath or no oath. Fortunately, too, elected representatives are fully capable of releasing full transcripts of the interviews, with any necessary redactions of classified information."

 

"The public has a right to know what questions inquisitors ask, and to similarly scrutinize exactly how members of Trump’s former and current inner circle answer."

 

"Kushner Monday implicitly acknowledged that the public has a right to hear his explanation of his meetings with Russian officials during the Trump campaign and transition."

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/991721-trumps-son-met-russian-lawyer-after-promise-of-information-on-clinton-ny-times/?page=18#comment-12121519

[craigt3365]

46 minutes ago, binjalin said:

No doubt America has many spies there too. Who cares?  it's been going on for decades some you catch some you don't. More important fish to fry.

American's care.  Not sure where you are from, but I guarantee your government cares.  Just look at the IP that's been taken from the US due to spying.  Worth a lot of money.

[craigt3365]

35 minutes ago, binjalin said:

Nothing will come of it and as you all concentrate on nothing Trump does damage elsewhere. Watch and see.

Guaranteed something will come of it.  Already has.  Where's Flynn?  What happened to Sessions?  They'll falling like bowling pins.  More to come.

[iReason]

The Trump officials who denied Russia contact

July 24, 2016

"Manafort told George Stephanopoulos on ABC's "This Week" that there are no ties between the Trump campaign and Russia."

 

"Stephanopoulos: "Are there any ties between Mr. Trump, you or your campaign and Putin and his regime?" 

Manafort: "No, there are not. That's absurd. And, you know, there's no basis to it."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/trump-campaign-denials-russia-contact/index.html

 

Fast forward:

Ex-Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort tells Senate panel of Russia meeting

 

"Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman met Senate investigators Tuesday, providing his recollection of a Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer and agreeing to turn over contemporaneous notes of the gathering last year, according to people familiar with the closed-door interview."

 

"Both Manafort and Kushner have been cooperating with the committees which, along with special counsel Robert Mueller, are investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential campaign and possible collusion with Trump associates."

 

"Manafort had previously disclosed the meeting in documents he turned over to the committee."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/25/paul-manafort-trump-campaign-chair-russia-senate

 

So, that boy be lying before...

 

First up; Paul Manafort:

 

 

 

[PattayaJames]

[iReason]

Correction to my post #258

The link is incorrect.

 

Release the Kushner, Trump Jr. and Manafort interview transcripts:

The public has a right to know how they explain themselves

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/release-kushner-trump-jr-manafort-interview-transcripts-article-1.3351837

 

[iReason]

Trump Jr. followed a parody North Korean news channel, and we are screwed 

 

"Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., is now following @DPRK_News: It’s a parody account, one that pretends to be reflecting the voice of the totalitarian nation, taken to its satirical extreme."
 

"It appears he followed the account after seeing and liking one one of their tweets mocking Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.)."

 

"Trump Jr. did not respond to a query about whether he knew the @DPRK_News account was fake."

https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/trump-jr-north-korean-dprk-news-twitter/

 

The son of the Fake News King, follows Fake News.

Classic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[thaihome]

In addition to Trump Jr and Manafort,  Bill Browder also testified.  Read his prepared statement to get an idea who Trump Jr and gang met with and what those people were trying to accomplish.

TH 

 

“I hope that my story will help you understand the methods of Russian operatives in Washington and how they use U.S. enablers to achieve major foreign policy goals without disclosing those interests,” Browder writes.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/bill-browders-testimony-to-the-senate-judiciary-committee/534864/

 

[craigt3365]

7 minutes ago, thaihome said:

In addition to Trump Jr and Manafort,  Bill Browder also testified.  Read his prepared statement to get an idea who Trump Jr and gang met with and what those people were trying to accomplish.

TH

A must read article. Especially for those who think the US is that bad one in all this. LOL

 

Stunning info from somebody who really knows what's going on.

[iReason]

35 minutes ago, thaihome said:

In addition to Trump Jr and Manafort,  Bill Browder also testified.  Read his prepared statement to get an idea who Trump Jr and gang met with and what those people were trying to accomplish.

TH 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/bill-browders-testimony-to-the-senate-judiciary-committee/534864/ 

 

"After Khodorkovsky’s conviction, the other oligarchs went to Putin and asked him what they needed to do to avoid sitting in the same cage as Khodorkovsky."

"From what followed, it appeared that Putin’s answer was, “Fifty percent.”

"From that moment on, Putin became the biggest oligarch in Russia and the richest man in the world, and my anti-corruption activities would no longer be tolerated."

 

 

Adoptions.

pfft...

[iReason]

Trump Jr.'s meeting with Russian lawyer was about sanctions, financier tells Senate panel

 

"A financier for one of the largest foreign investment firms in Russia says the meeting arranged between Donald Trump Jr. and Russian entities during the 2016 campaign had a quid pro quo -- repealing the U.S.-passed Magnitsky Act and the sanctions enshrined in it in exchange for a "sizable offer" to the campaign itself. 

 

"It's clear the interest and goal in that meeting was to repeal the Magnistky Act, said Bill Browder, CEO and founder of Hermitage Capital Management before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday. "It's the one thing we can agree with certainty that happened in that meeting." 

 

"He added, "I do know how the Russian government behaves, and this was a big ask -- to request that the possible future president of the United States, to repeal a major piece of human rights legislation, they wouldn't have gone in and said please repeal this without something in return."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-jr-s-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-was-about-sanctions-financier-tells-senate-panel/

[iReason]

Businessman: Russian intelligence likely monitored June 2016 Trump Jr. meeting

 

"Bill Browder, a businessman behind a Russian sanctions law, testified Thursday that he believes a Russian lawyer went into a June 2016 meeting with top aides to the campaign of President Donald Trump with something to offer, and that Russian intelligence likely monitored the meeting."

 

"I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Russian intelligence services would have been aware of that meeting in advance as they were plotting it out, there would have been weeks spent studying how to best achieve the results in that meeting," Browder told the Senate judiciary committee Thursday."

 

"Browder, who worked with the Senate to pass the sanctions almost a decade ago, told members of the judiciary committee Thursday that Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya is the family lawyer for a Russian family closely aligned with Russian President Vladimir Putin."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/27/politics/bill-browder-testimony-senate-hearing/index.html

 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2017 by iReason

[Skywalker69]

Donald Trump Jr. and Russia: What the Law Says

 

WASHINGTON — The revelation that President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., agreed to meet with a Kremlin-linked lawyer in June 2016 after being promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton has escalated discussion about whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia’s interference in the election.

An intermediary promised the younger Mr. Trump that a “Russian government attorney” would provide “very high level” dirt on Mrs. Clinton as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/collusion-trump-russia-campaign.html?mc=aud_dev&mcid=keywee&mccr=dommob&kwp_0=464982&kwp_4=1693749&kwp_1=726331&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F