Same sex married couple

[tigertom]

I am a man married to my Thai husband here in Canada. What happens when we are in Thailand as far as our legal status as married. I assume our married status is void as soon as we arrive in the kingdom? Anyone have any insight with this situation?

 

 

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[Jingthing]

Yes, it's legally meaningless here. For example, you can't apply for extensions based on marriage to a Thai national.

[tigertom]

Ok thanks for confirming


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[blackcab]

The other big one to consider is that your husband will also not be automatically entitled to any part of your estate in Thailand if you die. Either keep very little here, or write a Thai will naming him as the sole beneficiary.

[aslimversgwm]

I am an English man who married my Thai male partner last November at the British Embassy in Hanoi which is recognised as  any other UK marriage under English law but it is not recognised in Thai law. As others have said a Thai will drawn up by a reputable,  or better still recommended,  lawyer in Thai and English with the will stating that English language  interpretations take precedence over Thai, specifically leaving your assets to your husband + a similar will drawn up by your husband leaving his assets to you is highly desirable.

 

Edited July 27, 2017 by aslimversgwm

[midzo]

Agreed. My Thai husband and I have zero legal recognition here.

 

Ironically, our marriage is fully recognized by my native country, the US. But it only makes getting him a US tourist visa, already a difficult task, virtually impossible for us.

 

We had to go to South Africa to get married...only South Africa and Argentina have gay marriage and freely admit working-class Thais.

 

Capetown was terrific!

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, midzo said:

Agreed. My Thai husband and I have zero legal recognition here.

 

Ironically, our marriage is fully recognized by my native country, the US. But it only makes getting him a US tourist visa, already a difficult task, virtually impossible for us.

 

We had to go to South Africa to get married...only South Africa and Argentina have gay marriage and freely admit working-class Thais.

 

Capetown was terrific!

That's an interesting story.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you're a U.S. citizen married to a Thai national, couldn't get a visa to travel to the U.S. to get married there, so traveled to South Africa instead where you were allowed to marry without either of you being a national there, now legally married under S.A. law and U.S. law recognizes that marriage as well, but still he can't travel to the U.S. with you even though in a legally recognized marriage?

If I got any of that wrong, please correct. Thanks. 

[midzo]

Yes, you understood it perfectly.

 

Current situation:

 

As my husband is married to a US citizen, he must apply for a spousal visa. US Consulate in Chiang Mai refused to process his tourist visa application. At least we escaped paying the ridiculous fee.

 

To qualify for a spousal visa, I must have a certain amount of US income. No other income is considered.

 

As I don't work in the US, I have little US income and we do not qualify for a spousal visa. 

 

I am married, my marriage is recognized in dozens of countries around the world, but my own country will not admit my spouse.

 

Ironically, neither one of us has any desire whatsoever to live in the US. 

[Jingthing]

Thanks for that. It sounds like the U.S. policy your subject to now is "fair" in that it doesn't discriminate against same sex marriages, and is about all marriages. 

To add, but maybe some day you will want to repatriate. 

 

It's news to me, good news, that S.A. does allow marriage between two non-nationals. Canada does not anymore. 

Edited July 27, 2017 by Jingthing

[midzo]

It is fair, in the sense that we are being denied a visa just as if we were a mixed-sex couple.

 

And, yes, when the Chinese Army advances over the border to seize SEAsia, I may be very desirous of fleeing to the US.

 

Sure would like to take my husband with me, though.

[portroyal]

Try Saudi Arabia, perfect location in your case

[smotherb]

29 minutes ago, portroyal said:

Try Saudi Arabia, perfect location in your case

Not even a hint of bigotry?

[Ashto]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

 

It's news to me, good news, that S.A. does allow marriage between two non-nationals. Canada does not anymore. 

New Zealand permits two non-national, non-residents to marry there. But of course you have to get a visa. And working class Thai has its challenges. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Ashto said:

New Zealand permits two non-national, non-residents to marry there. But of course you have to get a visa. And working class Thai has its challenges. 

I wonder if South Africa is the only nation where this could be done with an easier entry for the Thai. I'm surprised there is even one. Very enlightened of them. 

[Ashto]

23 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I wonder if South Africa is the only nation where this could be done with an easier entry for the Thai. I'm surprised there is even one. Very enlightened of them. 

There is a specific visa for non-national non-residents seeking temporary entry to New Zealand  for the purpose of marrying, but I don't if that's as hard to get as an ordinary tourist visa.

Edited July 27, 2017 by Ashto

[nasanews]

Yeah it is a free world but I will never understand man marrying a man, what is next pedophilia!

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, nasanews said:

Yeah it is a free world but I will never understand man marrying a man, what is next pedophilia!

No. It's people marrying their sex robots. 

[ben2talk]

49 minutes ago, nasanews said:

Yeah it is a free world but I will never understand man marrying a man, what is next pedophilia!

It is a free world, and that's the only reason you're allowed to live. 

 

Pedophilia is a sickness of the mind - as an Englishman I find the subject quite interesting. Why would you enter it into this discussion? Have you been diagnosed?

 

As for two people getting married, there are several reasons for it. The oldest reason is one of property (it becomes shared). The most superficial reason is simply that people enjoy being together and want to announce to the world that they're in an exclusive relationship.

 

So what's your question?

[Jingthing]

Getting real sometimes people marry for all kinds of reasons. Tax benefits, working towards citizenship in some countries, travel benefits for airline employees. Etc. etc.

[Scott]

I think this has long passed its Use-by date.

 

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