Pdaz Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Years behind the Japanese and other Euro offerings. Built to a price, that's about it's only plus. Starting at just over 8000 quid in the UK. Haven't seen an enthusiastic review.. They all just mention the price and the fact that it's roomy in the back. Trouble is once the excitement of the bargain price wears off there will only be disappointment. Cheap & nasty hard plasticky interior, gutless engine, poor fuel economy/emissions , only a 3 star N-Cap rating, No way to know the quality of and the long term reliability of the components. A Mazda, Toyota or Honda is a much less risky proposition. Better quality, better economy and better resale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwbrown Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Briggsy said: One has to wonder why Chinese manufacturers continue to use this tactic of acquiring a foreign (anything from Japanese to German) brand name and badging their products with them. It is clear they are trying to dissociate from the Chinese source of the product. Why do you think that might be? What is it that consumers are wary about when buying Chinese? What is it that makes Chinese manufacturers coy about revealing themselves? I heard in the last couple of days that a Chinese company is likely to acquire Fiat Chrysler Automobiles. http://autoweek.com/article/rumormill/fiat-chrysler-could-be-bought-chinese-automaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I bought an MG5 in January last year. Top of the range, automatic, sunroof, black leather seats. After 18 months low to average use, both my wife and I love it. She drives it as well. The car is comfortable, reliable, and as we intend to keep it for many years the resale value isn't a problem. My daughter is hanging her nose over the MG3. We'll see about that when she graduates!Cheers for the review. I think they are cracking looking cars. My only reservation is about the reliability as I have heard different negative comments and as you say I too am not bothered by the resale. The MG3 is a great funky car for a youngun. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 My wife wants a Mini, now she wants a MG, same kind of car different price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 9 hours ago, Pilotman said: MGs are crap where ever they are. Ever since the Chinese took the jigs to China and started churning out a load of rubbish. Shame, they used to be much sort after. I had two MGAs when I was a kid, they were crap then. They looked good and when they ran they were fun to drive, but there was always some sort of electrical or mechanical problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, Pilotman said: MGs are crap where ever they are. Ever siincin tise Chinese took the jigs to China and started churning out a load of rubbish. Shame, they used to be much sort after. Agree pilotman. I owned a few over the years, a TF, then a couple of B's, crap engineering at best. I restored all three. I'm with you smotherb, B's were great to drive, but I always had grease under my fingernails, and that damned lighting, must have been Lucas. We called Lucas 'the prince of darkness'. 'When they ran' describes them perfectly. Their motorbikes were no better, probably worse, and the rider needed to wear a raincoat to avoid being covered In oil, Then there was the BAe146 aircraft, an abomination of aviation, heavy, slow, and the thrust of four hair dryers. Btitish engineering doesn't have a lot of which they can be proud, but there Is the Firth of Forth bridge, so maybe they should have stuck with stationary things. Edited August 19, 2017 by F4UCorsair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Good luck with your Chinese MG !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 hours ago, F4UCorsair said: Agree pilotman. I owned a few over the years, a TF, then a couple of B's, crap engineering at best. I restored all three. I'm with you smotherb, B's were great to drive, but I always had grease under my fingernails, and that damned lighting, must have been Lucas. We called Lucas 'the prince of darkness'. 'When they ran' describes them perfectly. Their motorbikes were no better, probably worse, and the rider needed to wear a raincoat to avoid being covered In oil, Then there was the BAe146 aircraft, an abomination of aviation, heavy, slow, and the thrust of four hair dryers. Btitish engineering doesn't have a lot of which they can be proud, but there Is the Firth of Forth bridge, so maybe they should have stuck with stationary things. Most of BMC (MG) stuff from way back was exported, the USA loved their stuff... Many icons of motoring history were heavily influenced by UK engineering, Jaguar 6 pot (E-Type and saloons), AC Cobra, GT40 and the fab Mini come to mind. UK engineering is heavily involved with F1 development too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 5 hours ago, F4UCorsair said: Agree pilotman. I owned a few over the years, a TF, then a couple of B's, crap engineering at best. I restored all three. I'm with you smotherb, B's were great to drive, but I always had grease under my fingernails, and that damned lighting, must have been Lucas. We called Lucas 'the prince of darkness'. 'When they ran' describes them perfectly. Their motorbikes were no better, probably worse, and the rider needed to wear a raincoat to avoid being covered In oil, Then there was the BAe146 aircraft, an abomination of aviation, heavy, slow, and the thrust of four hair dryers. Btitish engineering doesn't have a lot of which they can be proud, but there Is the Firth of Forth bridge, so maybe they should have stuck with stationary things. Your comment about the 146 made me laugh. I converted to the aircraft years ago and flew it for only 12 months after that and that was enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 one of my wifes friend has one, in public she loves it, however after a little coaxing she has had nothing but issues with the thing and is trying to off load it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 minute ago, eezergood said: one of my wifes friend has one, in public she loves it, however after a little coaxing she has had nothing but issues with the thing and is trying to off load it See if you can find out the probs for our gray cells... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just now, transam said: See if you can find out the probs for our gray cells... will do, but im trying to stay clear of it! She was told not to buy, so the husband is less than impressed - i know one of the door seals was leaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue bruce Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 to Briggsy, Have you ever heard the term Chinese junk ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryFalang Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I was looking in the MG showroom today and comparing prices to Honda. It seems that MG are a bit cheaper. I think the new 1.5 litre turbo X (MGS) looks quite smart. Does anyone have any knowledge on this brand? English brand... surely must be quality! thanksWe have an MG3 and been very happy with the car its runs on just about everything easy to park lots of free extras thrown in. Dont believe negative comments from those who dont own one and believe that only toyota should exist (they have had more product recalls than any other manufacturers) Sent from my A1601 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 4:18 PM, Kadilo said: How ironic. I was looking in the MG showroom today in Udon particularly at the MG5 The guy told me they are now assembled in Rayong. He did say the name of the company but i forget. A couple of people I know who have the MG3 have spoken highly of them. As you say cheaper than the Honda. The reviews I've read on the MG5 say the new turbo engine is better all round. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Yes, they are assembled in Rayong at a factory set-up as a joint-venture of CP and SAIC. You can read the article here: http://www.cpthailand.com/รวมคอลมน/tabid/129/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/2198/---MG--2557.aspx As for their quality, I would give them another few years before considering them at the same level as other manufacturers. Many of their cars are facing basic quality issues such as leaking door seals, breaking transmissions, paint fading, rust, etc. Issues which are not taken care of by their dealers urgently leaving people completely in the dark regarding their car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Yes, they are assembled in Rayong at a factory set-up as a joint-venture of CP and SAIC. You can read the article here: http://www.cpthailand.com/รวมคอลมน/tabid/129/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/2198/---MG--2557.aspx As for their quality, I would give them another few years before considering them at the same level as other manufacturers. Many of their cars are facing basic quality issues such as leaking door seals, breaking transmissions, paint fading, rust, etc. Issues which are not taken care of by their dealers urgently leaving people completely in the dark regarding their car.CP that's the one. Cheers for the advice. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgb Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 6 hours ago, JoeW said: As for their quality, I would give them another few years before considering them at the same level as other manufacturers. Many of their cars are facing basic quality issues such as leaking door seals, breaking transmissions, paint fading, rust, etc. Issues which are not taken care of by their dealers urgently leaving people completely in the dark regarding their car. I read owner reports from the UK about leaking seals in the first series but not more. Can you link to a owner report about breaking transmissions, paint fading, rust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Cars need feeding parts after some time, even if its just air/oil filters, brake pads, etc. I would stick with the mainstream brands, and further down the road it will not be a nightmare to maintain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 8:03 PM, Pdaz said: Years behind the Japanese and other Euro offerings. Built to a price, that's about it's only plus. Starting at just over 8000 quid in the UK. Haven't seen an enthusiastic review.. They all just mention the price and the fact that it's roomy in the back. Trouble is once the excitement of the bargain price wears off there will only be disappointment. Cheap & nasty hard plasticky interior, gutless engine, poor fuel economy/emissions , only a 3 star N-Cap rating, No way to know the quality of and the long term reliability of the components. A Mazda, Toyota or Honda is a much less risky proposition. Better quality, better economy and better resale. Jay Leno made a pertinant point about Merceds and i tend to aggre.After the 280 SE 3.5 they became much the same as everyone else regarding build quality.As anyone who had the Lexus when it came out noticed.My wifes entry level 7 year old 2 seater coups no better buit than Honda or Toyota. in fact its a stupid price imo, but its company owned. so....it.!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said: Jay Leno made a pertinant point about Merceds and i tend to aggre.After the 280 SE 3.5 they became much the same as everyone else regarding build quality.As anyone who had the Lexus when it came out noticed.My wifes entry level 7 year old 2 seater coups no better buit than Honda or Toyota. in fact its a stupid price imo, but its company owned. so....it.!! Yes Mercedes is definitely not perfect. Their rep took a bashing for their US built SUV quality control disaster. Even their older S coupe range has known fuel tank fitment issues. Both Lexus and Infinity easily compare with Euro prestige cars in terms of quality and often exceed Euro cars in terms of reliability. I've had a range of both German and Japanese cars over the years and honestly have never had reliability or quality issues with any of them. But my own personal opinion is that I prefer the way the German cars drove and felt. I prefer the switch gear, the layout and the (possibly only perceived) weight and solidity. My current Merc feels very different to my last old SL coupe. Bodywork is lighter, almost flexible. The interior plastics ( center console and B pillar trims ) are not that special either. But it is based on the "entry level" A series so guess they had to save money somewhere. That said, it still makes the interior of my wifes CX-5 seem cheap and nasty. Funny as previously I had noted that I thought the CX-5 interior was better than our previous CR-V. But in Thailand the real issue I have with Japanese cars is that apart from the crazy priced GT-R there really isn't anything that I desire. There is nothing fun and fast on offer ( BRZ maybe fun, but it's not fast ) unless you buy an older car and modify it. I just can't get excited about a Civic, Camry, Maz 3, Accord or Vios. So if you want a sporty performance car it's back to Audi, VW, BMW, Mini or Merc. Their range here is also pretty poor. But still better than the what the Japs can offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It doent pay to think here or you would do nothing.I see a Toyota Truck with a Tin Roof n Extra Chairs is now 35 K GBP ., so perhaps for some an MG is worth considering..,not all Protons are a calamity either,my points of view are odd because i wiil go back to BMW for my last purchase here just one more Civic then thats it?[emoji86]Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) I rate MG's as ugly. Mechanically etc., I suppose about the same as Hyundai used to be. That being said I like Alfa Romeo so... Edited August 21, 2017 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said: It doent pay to think here or you would do nothing.I see a Toyota Truck with a Tin Roof n Extra Chairs is now 35 K GBP ., so perhaps for some an MG is worth considering..,not all Protons are a calamity either,my points of view are odd because i wiil go back to BMW for my last purchase here just one more Civic then thats it? Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Go for it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Go for it..... That ones about the same cost .?[emoji450]as a new 3 Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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