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But this is being done under the aegis of "The fishing protocol enforced by the European Union". Why would Thailand care about that?
Membership of the EU and adherence to it's fishing policy has more or less wiped out the British fishing industry, and the formerly great fishing ports of Hull and Grimsby are but a shadow of their past.
In the UK the only affordable fish are coarse, sewage eating bottom feeders, and the likes of cod or haddock cost 3 times the price of prime steak, even in the supermarkets. The last time I bought fish at my local Tesco, the only affordable white fish available was labeled as Vienamese River fish, whatever that is.
Adherence to the absurd diktats of the EU bureaucracy will mean the end of Thailand's excellent sea food restaurants and the decimation (or worse) of its fishing fleets. Does General Happyface really want that? The best way to deal with EU is for the suppliers to get together and refuse to supply under their absurd conditions.
The seafood business was going to die out anyway because of overfishing. Spain had a tough moratorium on fishing that drove many out of business but they let the stocks recover and now have a sustainable fishing industry. The fine-weave, bottom trawling nets these Thai fishermen were using took every fish out of the inshore areas; including the type of fish that were the food source for the type of fish that humans enjoy. They turned these, so-called 'trash' fish into fish meal for animal feed.
Please educate yourself on the problem before condemning the EU actions to actually SAVE the fishing industry.
p.s. Thailand cares because it wants to keep the EU as a market for its exports and don't want to be banned/cut out of the market.
The best way to deal with EU is for the suppliers to get together and refuse to supply under their absurd conditions.
Greece tried to call the EU's bluff and lost, why would Thailand succeed where Greece failed?
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Why not ?
Millions of people take drugs for recreational purposes and lead perfectly normal lives - not everyone goes onto descend into crack dens !
You have a point, but how do you compare soft drugs with hard drugs. If this guy was dealing hard drugs for his own personal gain,
then he deserves all he got. otherwise, the sentence is too steep.
Too bad you didn't post #15 or you would know it is beginning to be used as a medicine.
This if from the US DEA website: http://thedea.org/statistics.html
Yes, this guy was a real menace to society. /sarcasm
BTW, The US DEA classifies marijuana as a Schedule 1 or 'hard' drug alongside heroin and crack cocaine.
Fatalities
Most of the people that show up in the ER, even those in genuine medical danger, will make a full recovery. Most...but not all. In recent years in the US, the greatly increasing rate of MDMA use has made deaths a somewhat regular occurrence. Listening to the government 'drug experts' you might think users were dropping like flies. The truth, as usual, is less grim than the drug warriors would have us believe:
Deaths involving MDMA (from districts reporting to SAMHSA):
Year:
1994 - 1
1995 - 6
1996 - 8
1997 - 3
1998 - 9
1999 - 42
2000 - 63
2001 - 76
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People should be allowed to take drugs if they want, and the sale of currently illegal drugs should be regulated in a similar way to alcohol and tobacco. Addicts should be treated as a a public health problem using a small fraction of the money saved through not pursuing the hugely costly and largely ineffective 'war on drugs'. Everyone wins apart from the violent criminal organizations that currently control the illegal drug trade.
If that were the case stand by for even more deaths on the road as truck and bus drivers get an unlimited supply of go juice.
They already have an unlimited supply. Tens of millions of yaba tablets are seized each year but that is only a fraction of the number of pills that make it into the marketplace. Not everyone who uses drugs, abuses drugs or else everyone would be drunk all day and all night.
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"E" isn't particularly dangerous, addictive or destructive. Most truly civilized countries wouldn't be too concerned with this crime.
You think methamphetamine mixed with caffeine is not particularity dangerous ?
Ecstacy is supposed to mainly comprise MDMA, back in the 70s marketed as the 'love drug', but now often mainly made up of amphetamines.
The 50 year sentence seems extraordinary, especially as he pleaded guilty, was it commuted from a death sentence? Anyone know if it was an importation or drugs acquired locally. Hopefully the guy will get sentence reductions in the coming years. Does HMG arrange repatriation after a certain period to serve time in UK prison?
Ecatasy is rare(ish) in Thailand, you will find he had pills known as Yaba.
Yaba in a non thai tabloid means nothing to the world, Ecstasy does hence they use that instead.
They are 2 completely different drugs.
Yaba is a frequently used term in a non thai tabloid and there is no mention of the word 'yaba' in the OP. I believe the Birmingham Mail knows the difference between yaba (methamphetamine) and ecstasy and they also seem to know a lot about Klong Prem prison. Do you have a source for your (mis)information that he was actually sentenced for selling yaba or did you make that up to back your earlier, wrong post? First you say ecstasy is the same as mixing yaba and caffeine and then, when someone calls you on it, you change your story to 'he was selling yaba' and They are 2 completely different drugs. You can't have it both ways and still retain credibility.
BTW, how would you know that ecstasy is rare(ish) in Thailand? Do you have a link?
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Since 80% of the boat owners squandered the six month notice that this law would be enforced, they were going to stay in port anyway rather than face a Bt.10,000 fine. This is a faux strike and if the illegal who refuse to become legal are taken out of the system, there will be more fish/profit for honest fishermen. There is still the problem of using slave labor where special offshore boats bring in the catch and resupply the slave boats that never come to port. Confiscation and burning of any illegal boat is the only thing that will really get these rogue fishermen's attention. It's what Indonesia is doing to foreign boats illegally fishing in their waters.
p.s. the RTN can use this as justification for their submarines.
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The sentence appear to follow a similar methodology to the pricing structure for entry to National Parks in Thailand.
It is also very similar to the penalty for picking wild mushrooms in the National Forests. Some judges in Thailand have NO sense of proportion.
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"E" isn't particularly dangerous, addictive or destructive. Most truly civilized countries wouldn't be too concerned with this crime.
You think methamphetamine mixed with caffeine is not particularity dangerous ?
From the US Food and Drug Administration: DrugFacts: MDMA (Ecstasy or Molly) http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/mdma-ecstasy-or-molly
Yes, I think "methamphetamine mixed with caffeine" IS particularly dangerous but that is not what ecstasy is.
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This sentence is over-kill for any possible damage to society from MDMA (street name ecstasy). In my opinion, it is over-kill even if he had been selling heroin. Opium was 100% legal in Thailand until 1962 and if you go to rural Isaan, many villagers smoke ganja.
Ecstasy therapy approved for trial in Marin County http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Ecstasy-therapy-approved-for-trial-in-Marin-6283115.php
Brain Scans Hint at Therapy Uses of Ecstasy for Anxiety, PTSD http://psychcentral.com/news/2014/01/18/brain-scans-hint-at-therapy-uses-of-ecstasy-for-anxiety-ptsd/64700.html
The Role of MDMA (Ecstasy) in Coping with Negative Life Situations Among Urban Young Adults http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3235684/
For those vehemently against any sale of any illicit drug, there are, believe it or not, shades of gray in the dangers associated with different drugs. Cigarettes and alcohol are perfectly legal and are far more damaging to society than most illicit drugs. Every drug you could want has been legal (10 day supply) in Portugal for more than 14 years and illicit drug use has gone down 30% and drug deaths are down by 50% without the criminal justice system being involved. Can anyone find any negative stories on Portugal's relaxing of drug laws? NO!
Some people are risk-takers, some people are gay, and some people are drawn to drugs. There is something inside them that makes them that way and criminalization has never stopped, or even reduced, these behaviors. I'm glad my world is not 'black and white'.
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was allegedly committed by Niwat Jongsuk, his close aide and gardener, who reportedly confessed to the crime.
It looks like they weren't so 'close' after all.
It must be sad to realize, in your final moments on Earth, that the person murdering you was someone you trusted and employed. I will never understand Thai mentality that this happens so frequently. Trust no one here.
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The government really should hire foreign expert help on water management. I'm sure there's much to gain from it both in times of drought and of floods.
There is some foreign help in water management, the Chinese are busily damming the mighty MeKong river.
... and so are the Thais.
First I've heard of this. Where are the Thais putting a dam on the Mekong River?
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Don't any one of you villagers become the protest leader and complain too loudly as you might get 'silenced'... permanently. This is Thailand and those who are building the plant, along with the investors, have spent a lot of money in bribing politicians, greasing the palms of bureaucrats, buying land and construction materials, etc. As we all know, money if far more important than a protesting villager's life. This project didn't get this far without many pu yai (big men) involved.
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When the cancer of corruption has metastasized to the point where to cut it out will destroy the body, it is too late. Unless they are willing to take out massive good tissue to remove the bad tissue it is hopeless. Cutting all agencies', excepting public safety, personnel by 10% will expose who is protecting the corrupt and the dead-wood. If, after those cuts, the corruption is not diminished, the department heads are cutting the wrong staff and they, themselves, must go. All bureaucracies around the world, are over staffed and over budgeted so if services suffer from a staff/budget cut, the department heads are cutting the wrong staff and the wrong parts of their budget and they, themselves, must go. A lot of good workers will lose their jobs at the expense of the corrupt who are being protected but, offer them the chance to 'rat out' their corrupt colleagues, and the process may get better results. Above all, they must never give up as new corruptible employees will replace old corrupted employees.
Another way would be to focus on one agency at a time and put them under a microscope by combining all the investigators and forensic accountants on one department.
Having the will to sustain the fight is where they all fail.
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Can anyone see him getting off with this with out doing jail time?
If Thailand, maybe. Because it's Japan, Japan will lose the respect of the world if they let this potential airline hijacker off. Japan can not be seen as corrupt or soft on international crime or act in any way that would jeopardize Japan's reputation for commitment to air safety. Many Western countries wouldn't be so hard on him as Japan will be because Japan doesn't want to lose face. This is my opinion.
Here's a list of potential charges (just in Japan): Smuggling a gun and ammunition into Japan (confessed from his own mouth), possession of a gun and ammunition without legal permission while in Japan, attempting to pass through Japanese airport security with a loaded gun with intention to bring it on board a commercial passenger plane, and then, maybe, add the word 'unregistered' to each of those charges. Any one of those charges could net him a sentence that would keep him in prison until he is an old man. My guess is that if they go easy on him (easy by Japanese standards) he will get 15 years, spend five of them in a Japanese prison and then, under a common agreement, allow Kamronwit to serve the last ten years in a Thai prison. At a certain point, his friends will see him as a liability and pretend they never heard of him. “Life's hard. It's even harder when you're stupid.” ― John Wayne
If he were an ordinary Somchai, I could maybe feel sorry for him for he is in deep poo.
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So the police don't really know who the "mastermind" is. This in spite of a number of very public statements.
Is there a remote chance these students were not being led by the nose as the police seem to think but are capable of independent thought and decided to protest off their own bat? Just maybe they are not happy with the concept of democracy, however flawed, being trampled over by the junta.
If they were smart, the students would have only members of the junta in the phones they left with the lawyer, with a couple of (missed?) calls to some prominent generals phones.
Why didn't they protest in regard to the trampling on democracy exercised for a number of years by the previous mob?
You mean the yellow mob which shut down the airports or the red mob which beseiged the Ratchaprasong downtown Bangkok for weeks, or the yellow mob which occupied Silom, Lumpini and other parts of Bangkok for months triggering the 2014 coup?
No, I think he means the
YingluckThaksin administration that passed many illegal laws without following due process and tried to pass a 'blanket' amnesty bill to forgive all of their own transgressions plus those going back to 2004 (more than 27,000 cases of corruption and law-breaking by politicians) and also attempting to illegally change the Thai Constitution to give themselves permanent power. Don't be obtuse..
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Good luck wading through the reams of self indulgent facebook cr@p to get to the truth.
Remote wipes can be easily undone by forensic pc staff btw.
However, the mastermind is unlikely to be a person, but an idea that got started by word of mouth among friends.
'....mastermind is unlikely to be a person....'
why not?
Here's a comment I'm aware of, supposedly from a senior policeman, to the effect 'The detailed statement made by this 'group' is written in the exact style used by other folks already 'seen' in the other camp' and from what's known of these students well beyond their current capabilities in terms of details and arguments.
Does anyone really believe Lord Valdemort na Dubai has given up his fight?
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You can't make this level of idiocy up.
You mean like there in absolutely NO possibility that these kids were put up to this charade and their drama of refusing bail so they become martyrs for the cause? Time, and investigation, will tell if this is a plot to prevent the reform of the Thai political system or to incite others to insurrection.
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If my son's killer arrived at the funeral of my son begging me for forgiveness, there'd be another funeral that day ... shameful, selfish and disgusting ... so Thai.
Since she couldn't know, in advance, the parked car she hit was occupied I don't think she had any intent to destroy this family. Wouldn't it matter to you whether your son's 'killer' was malicious or not? 'Your son is dead so she must die' or is that statement true only is she shows up at his funeral begging your forgiveness?
shameful, selfish and disgusting
Would it be better if she didn't apologize in front of the world and beg forgiveness? Maybe she should be like in the US and not offer compensation either and make the family sue her in court.
There really is the possibility that night that she had the choice of either hitting a swerving motorcyclist or a parked car (not knowing the parked car contained a sleeping person). IF that were true and she sacrificed her car to prevent injury/death to a wildly driving motorcyclist she may have been making a noble choice. Just because things didn't work out that way doesn't mean she is evil enough for you to cause her family to hold a funeral for her. It seems you are not open to any other possibility than the one you seem so strongly to believe that you would kill her if she showed up in your presence. I'm seeing a new side of your personality and it's ugly. Causing another death would not bring your son back but would bring more misery in the world. Sad that you would get some satisfaction from her/another death.
Rush to judgment, much?
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I will be easy on you, because I very much like your signature lines... Nobody said she did it intentionally. The thing here is that on the video the whole world can see that the little brat was intoxicated. For me it pulled the lid off when she started to scream her drama queen alike "Mai ao! Chun bowk wa, my ao!" and I would have bitchslapped her to unconsciousness right on the spot if I were the policeman in charge and see my dead colleague family father lying with a broken skull In that car!" In such a state of drunkenness, you don't make logical or even noble choices, my believing in the good of humanity friend! She fell asleep and swerved off road to then be woken up by harsh reality, quite different from the pityful soaps she is acting in. Life is hard, and hard on her should be justice!
Whose post are you responding to? I am offended that Tatsujin would want to cause another death, as if that would make him feel better. Respond to that if you want to respond to my post.
BTW, my perception from watching the video was that she was not drunk but terribly distraught and in disbelief that she had taken someone's life. Do you think she was such a hard person she would think to fake her emotions? Who expects to find someone sleeping in a parked car on the side of a busy street where people typically drive fast? (see post #70)
There really is the possibility that night that she had the choice of either hitting a swerving motorcyclist or a parked car (not knowing the parked car contained a sleeping person). IF that were true and she sacrificed her car to prevent injury/death to a wildly driving motorcyclist she may have been making a noble choice.
It seems as if accidents can't happen in your world and anyone who screws up must be brutally punished regardless of intention.
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300,000 Baht seems to be the forgiveness fee as it was in the Red Bull case.
This is the second time you posted the exact same incorrect information. Keep trolling; maybe you'll get a bite. I just now gave you a nibble.
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If my son's killer arrived at the funeral of my son begging me for forgiveness, there'd be another funeral that day ... shameful, selfish and disgusting ... so Thai.
Since she couldn't know, in advance, the parked car she hit was occupied I don't think she had any intent to destroy this family. Wouldn't it matter to you whether your son's 'killer' was malicious or not? 'Your son is dead so she must die' or is that statement true only is she shows up at his funeral begging your forgiveness?
shameful, selfish and disgusting
Would it be better if she didn't apologize in front of the world and beg forgiveness? Maybe she should be like in the US and not offer compensation either and make the family sue her in court.
There really is the possibility that night that she had the choice of either hitting a swerving motorcyclist or a parked car (not knowing the parked car contained a sleeping person). IF that were true and she sacrificed her car to prevent injury/death to a wildly driving motorcyclist she may have been making a noble choice. Just because things didn't work out that way doesn't mean she is evil enough for you to cause her family to hold a funeral for her. It seems you are not open to any other possibility than the one you seem so strongly to believe that you would kill her if she showed up in your presence. I'm seeing a new side of your personality and it's ugly. Causing another death would not bring your son back but would bring more misery in the world. Sad that you would get some satisfaction from her/another death.
Rush to judgment, much?
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Little red piggies missing their feeding frenzy at the trough?
Asinine comment.
As usual, you have nothing to add to the conversation so you resort to insult. Not much imagination?
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Im sure she is using her `Acting skills to the utmost in the video ..maybe she thinks she will get some `Pity ?? im sure the poor person (man) in the car isnt acting ... when will women realise that a speeding car is not a fashion accessory .. it is a dangerous weapon when driven by stupid people.. maybe she thinks she is someone special because she is an `Actress,,and just does what she wants .. i feel really sorry for the mans wife and family.. since she only just spoke to him ... before it happend ...... why is she even allowed to be looking into the car ... crazy !!
Im sure she is using her `Acting skills to the utmost in the video
As long as you're sure... and there's no room for doubt.
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If you're driving in a straight line and are forced to swerve to avoid some moron who gets in your way then it's not reckless to do so.
The charge should be speeding and she should pay a small fine.
They should really be looking for the motorcycle driver who caused this accident by forcing someone else to alter their course, he appears to have been the reckless one.
When I was learning to drive I was taught that any action I take on the road should not cause anyone else on the road to take any kind of action / evasive reaction in response to what I'm doing. If it does then I'm doing it wrong.I
If a motorcycle swerved in front of her and her choice was to hit a motorcyclist or a parked car, which she could not possibly know was occupied by a sleeping policeman, it is a sensible choice to sacrifice your own car and hit the parked car to avoid injury/death of the motorcyclist. It is possible the woman did the right thing but Karma put that sleeping policeman in the parked car turning the situation into a tragedy.
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Not much left of the police car.
This pic shows a head on collision. I can see the full engine and front in tact on the video.
From the very first sentence of the OP: Police Sub. Lt. Noppadol Wongbandit, a 44-year-old inspector with the Suphanburi Police Department, was found dead with a cracked skull in the driver seat after the 28-year-old actress slammed into the rear end of his car, propelling the squad car into a tree along the road before it landed back on the motorway road
His car was hit from the rear and the force of impact drove the front of his police car into a tree. Hitting the tree is what did the damage to the front of his police car. Post #32 shows the damage to the rear of his police car, from the initial impact, in daylight.
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Looks like she has now made it to the police station.
pic from Sanook.com
People who are drunk don't usually have such good posture. People can be inattentive for reasons other than intoxication. She looks distraught, not drunk. She was steady on her feet in the video, also. This is a tragedy for all concerned.
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after the accident and realising the dilemma she was in, the adrenaline and all sorts of chemicals react in the body
the rest will be up to the tox report - but why she was allowed to leave the scene allowing (presumed) the alcohol content in her blood stream to go down is a travesty of justice
but why she was allowed to leave the scene allowing (presumed) the alcohol content in her blood stream to go down is a travesty of justice
Crappy standards of policing? Too much deference to Benz drivers? Or the old, never fail, Thainess? She went to the hospital for her arm and they at least should have followed/escorted her there and drawn blood at that time in stead of waiting. I understand she shouldn't be making statements while distraught or without legal representation but blood should have been taken within a half hour of the police arriving on the scene. Forensics know the rate of metabolism of alcohol in the blood and could then deduce the alcohol level in her blood at the time of the accident; this can't be done if the blood sample is drawn several hours later.
Other questions: Why were cameras allowed to film the dead officer? Why wasn't the entire scene closed off until investigators could do their job? Why was the woman allowed to get close to the victim? Police work in Thailand is both substandard and inconsistent. I can't believe anyone who has been in Thailand for long would be surprised at the amount of FAIL within the RTP where promotions are bought and not earned. (last sentence not directed at you)
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Former British soldier jailed for 50 years in Thailand for drug dealing
in Thailand News Headlines
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I see what you did there. You, on your own and regardless of the information in the OP, substituted the word 'ecstasy' with the word 'Meth'. How unobservant do you think I am?
I agree that abuse of Methamphemines (a diet drug that was legally prescribed for weight-loss for decades) CAN be dangerous but what has MDMA aka Ecstasy, Molly, have to do with the OP or the price of tea in China?
If you took the time/made the effort, you would know from the links I posted that MDMA is becoming medicine for some, soon to be many, people. If you wish to justify the 50 year sentence, you are writing to the wrong person.
BTW, please link to any previous seller of 200 ecstasy tablets given a death-commuted-to-life-sentence in Thailand. Also please link to the list of drugs and the punishment for their possession in Thailand. I doubt there is a death penalty for MDMA possession. Just because you believe something to be true doesn't make it so.
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