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NFL football is being broadcast. But the programming decisions are being made by an idiot. Instead of Dallas and Seattle, we got Atlanta and Chicago this morning. That's two weeks straight of Atlanta, aka Nobody's Team. Best matchup of the year with the Seahawks and Cowboys (and a tight game) and we get a low rent team like the Falcons???

Thirdly, he sneezed.

It is not passed by sneezes.

??????????

Of course, it can be spread by sneezes. NOW, they tell you. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20141012-research-doesnt-rule-out-transmission-by-floating-droplets.ece

Yes, it's the nurse's fault, screams the lunkhead at CDC. Violation of protocol, he shouts! It couldn't possibly be a flaw in the magical, mystical never go wrong protocols, could it? The arrogance of these people at the head of these agencies is astounding.

Three Russian Ebola vaccines ready within six months

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/25238149/three-russian-ebola-vaccines-ready-within-six-months-moscow/

I would trust a Thai Ebola vaccine before something from the Russians.

And now as reported by The Washington Post we have this : "Dallas health worker followed ‘full CDC precautions’ with Ebola patient"

This 'health worker' has now tested positive for Ebola in a preliminary test. I'm not exactly sure what a preliminary test is but that it was positive is worrying. I suspect they would not release information like this based on a single 'preliminary' test result.

Source : http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/10/12/dallas-health-care-worker-who-treated-thomas-eric-duncan-has-tested-positive-for-ebola/

Edit : The important part of this incident is that they confirm the health worker was adhering to the full CDC precautions but they didn't work.

It would seem to me that Ebola virus is following the transmissible infectious route that it has been doing in the West African Ebola stricken countries ... that has caused thousands of new cases... which now seems to be more than just casual contact.... proof or no proof

Please Thailand deny visas and entry into Thailand for anybody from the entire West African and Central African region. Heck just stop anybody from all of Africa coming here. Act now. Don't be foolish like the United States and Europe.

I agree the Thai government should actively promote brown and much more realistically half milled rice in any way they can! White rice is very poor nutrition and scientists now know that not all calories are the same as far as impact on health and disease. Some calories are more harmful than others. For examples, nut calories are beneficial, while sugar calories in excess of certain OK low daily levels are quite harmful and promote disease development, and yes white rice (and processed bread as well) basically translates in the body into SUGAR.

It is true nothing wrong with small portions of sugar or sugar in the form of WHITE RICE, but get real, if you're eating it as your main tummy filler day and night, you are not eating small portions of it.

But I guess it's asking too much to suggest Thais drop white rice. Too bad.

I don't agree that brown rice tastes nice with Thai food. I think it doesn't for me and most people. But half milled rice is a good compromise of taste and health.

Rice, especially brown rice, causes cancer. http://blog.aarp.org/2012/09/20/arsenic-in-rice-yes-especially-brown-rice/

Special bread tax coming soon.

surely this is scandalous? How long are the American citizens going to keep tolerating this kind of misinformation from this administration?

*OBAMA REITERATES CHANCE OF EBOLA OUTBREAK IN U.S. EXTREMELY LOW

versus

"The nightmare scenario, I think, is right around the corner." Marine Corps Gen. John F. Kelly, center, commander of U.S. Southern Command

http://news.usni.org/2014/10/07/southcom-commander-ebola-outbreak-central-america-haiti-nightmare-scenario

Do you even bother to read what you cite. For this one, you needed only read the headline to understand the General was talking about outbreak potential in Africa and Central America and never contradicted what Obama said about risk of outbreak in America being extremely low.

You do realize that when one says "Central America" they are not referring to Kansas, Dorothy or Toto. They are generally referring to areas between Mexico and South America.

I dislike Obama.. The news, media and politicians tell us daily that Obama is untrustworthy so you don' have to intentionally misquote articles to convince Americans to be skeptical regarding Obama statements.

Your level of dishonest surpasses that of Obama who at times simply seems indecessive, scared to act or do the wrong thing.

Actually, I can see the connection. Obama insists the chances of an ebola outbreak are low. At the same time, he has left the southern border not only virtually wide open. But we now take in people who walk up and claim to be unescorted minors. I can easily see a wave of central and south americans streaming across the border like army ants, with many infected among them.

"Mr. Rangsan firmly believes that the new VAT rate would not affect low-income earners"

Really?

Would he care to explain how that will be then?

Does he actually know what VAT is?

A sincere wish that something is so will make it so.

Go to the 3:36 mark on the video. It looks to me like there is a gap open on the hazmat hood and the person wearing it is exposed. Not very reassuring, is it?

What I read, the guy didn't mention Ebola. He only sneezed, then joked he had just come from Africa. Super overreaction from the flight crew in my opinion. But hey we're talking an American airline here, so no big surprise.

Click through to the entire story. He said, "I have Ebola. You're all screwed."

Unlike Thailand, many times the big guys are gotten in Mexico and South America. But, does it make any difference? No, there is always someone else ready to fill the vacancy. The war on drugs can never be won. Wake up and legalize it and end the violence, loss of lives and huge waste of money.

And periodically, in Mexico, there are large scale prison breaks, where gunmen break these guys out.

I thought scientists had a genetically altered mosquito that when introduced into the environment would cause a reproductive halt - it's time they used it and wiped them out

And they just might end up like this:

When it comes to advising people on a successful US foreign policy, Jimmy Carter is the last person to listen to.

Straw man argument. Try again.

Not hardly. Simply asking for your opinion on how they could have done better. You see, when you complain about "falling flat on their face", then you really should be prepared to provide examples of how they should have done it.

Thats all I am asking.

How they should have handled it? Issue visa bans and cancellations for anyone traveling from West Africa. Do that, and this case never happens. Thailand should be doing that right now. As for the fiasco in Dallas, once the case was confirmed as ebola, why were people sent willy nilly into and around the apartment without any protection at all? Why was someone from the apartment allowed to go to school? How about taking elementary precautions to stop those two incidents right off the bat?

What about American citizens who are currently in Africa ? Who's to say they won't accidentally and 100% unknowingly bring it back with them ?

This issue is more complex than it first appears and from what I've been reading the incubation period for Ebola appears to be longer than it used to be.

Even American citizens should go into quarantine, should they "choose" to come back. After all, they "chose" to go there.

The frightening thing is the mortality rate may have been massively downplayed or underestimated.

I'm almost loathe to say it but a decent pandemic will solve a lot of the worlds problems. perhaps this is natures answer to man made problems.

You might not be so glib about it, if you end up being counted among the number of people who go towards "solving" the problem.

Since 9/11 billions of dollars have been pumped into preparing state and local agencies for just such emergencies. For years, especially in the DFW area, there were highly publicized emergency drills. When I lived there until six years ago, state, county, and city agencies and politicians constantly crowed about how prepared they were. And the first time out of the gate, they fall flat on their face. It's all PR.

Again, they did not fall flat on their face.

Are you suggesting that with no known cases of Ebola present in the US that Emergency Services should have been responding to every call in full Level A Bio-Hazard gear "just in case" ? That every traffic stop by police should be considered at risk for an infected person? That every response made by Paramedics should be in full HazMat gear?

Hopefully you have more sense than that.

Straw man argument. Try again.

Not hardly. Simply asking for your opinion on how they could have done better. You see, when you complain about "falling flat on their face", then you really should be prepared to provide examples of how they should have done it.

Thats all I am asking.

How they should have handled it? Issue visa bans and cancellations for anyone traveling from West Africa. Do that, and this case never happens. Thailand should be doing that right now. As for the fiasco in Dallas, once the case was confirmed as ebola, why were people sent willy nilly into and around the apartment without any protection at all? Why was someone from the apartment allowed to go to school? How about taking elementary precautions to stop those two incidents right off the bat?

In The Andromeda Strain, the authorities were going to use a nuclear bomb.

I don't agree with some things you said and assumed about my post... I didn't clarify it but I was speaking almost entirely about the second time. A lack of a permit with something like Ebola involved is something that an official should have just overridden ... Ebola is not a sewage line break or diesel fuel on a road... it kills people.. And it should not have been a private clean up crew --- a city or county crew would have the authority to just do it. The Dallas police and County Sheriff's department should have controlled all access - then no stupid judge trudging in... Local apartment workers were the first clean up with a power washer... The police and fire department should have strung big yellow tape around the whole area, closed off - family removed and doors locked. Family moved to a secure county facility. And yes I do agree - Duncan most likely knew of his exposure and should have made it clear... creating a chain of events that could very well kill other people.

I add - Emergency Services ... I believe what happened the second time Duncan had to be taken to the hospital - everything about what went on was in my opinion -- AN EMERGENCY... so it is their responsibility.

I am not aware of city or county crews that are qualified in this type of medical hazmat nor that have the equipment or training and I was a volunteer fireman for over two decades, albeit retired 20 years ago. It would not be unreasonable for a privately contracted hazmat service to have the proper equipment for multiple types of hazmat events.

Since 9/11 billions of dollars have been pumped into preparing state and local agencies for just such emergencies. For years, especially in the DFW area, there were highly publicized emergency drills. When I lived there until six years ago, state, county, and city agencies and politicians constantly crowed about how prepared they were. And the first time out of the gate, they fall flat on their face. It's all PR.

Again, they did not fall flat on their face.

Are you suggesting that with no known cases of Ebola present in the US that Emergency Services should have been responding to every call in full Level A Bio-Hazard gear "just in case" ? That every traffic stop by police should be considered at risk for an infected person? That every response made by Paramedics should be in full HazMat gear?

Hopefully you have more sense than that.

Straw man argument. Try again.

@ClutchClark... Clarification.

I believe I am using terminology differently than you... I have been using the term Emergency Services in a broad sense... PD, FD and EMS... I suspect you may be speaking only of EMS (Emergency Medical Services) - maybe not.

It is coming back to me now ... while riding down the road on my motorbike... In Dallas - Fort Worth and I believe most of Texas HAZMAT duty is performed by the Fire Departments as they have the suits, hoses, trucks, personnel, trained in dealing with chemicals, hazard suits... etc.

So - I was very surprised and disappointed when I read about a private company doing it... and be turned away because of an asinine permit ... you get permits to haul of a vacuumed up chemical spill ... Contaminated bedding, clothes, towels - contaminated with Ebola - have to be secured ASAP or the apartment evacuated - locked and sealed with the family taken by public health order to a confinement center - a humane one of course...

My assessment of what caused a major foul up in Dallas was the word Ebola... if some one had said a Anthrax powder terrorism event or extremely hazardous chemical spill - caustic ammonia or whatever... I believe the response would have been quick and correct. But the word Ebola was not ringing any bells. Ebola is in Africa not Texas and it is not something they prepared for.., unfortunately.

The Dallas Police Chief and Fire Chief should have co-coordinated and brought in the County Sheriff. They would have had Ebola been something they were briefed on the way they likely have been about weaponized powered anthrax... but alas they didn't.

No real emergency response at first coming from the PD and FD ... no one saying I am in charge - let's do this... it just rolled out in slow motion with people doing ad-hoc things like order the apartment maintenance crew to get the pressure washer out and use it.

Forced quarantine can be used it is part of the Texas public health law... but it wasn't done...

But you can bet after bringing on such as embarrassment the future such events will be handled -- maybe overkill just to prove they are in charge.

Being a resident of DFW I followed events closely - reading dozens of article and reports - nothing much of anything was done appropriately or timely or thoroughly... or with authority. Stuff just happened...

Too many comments from people who do not know what goes on in that particular hospital, in Dallas, or in the county. And no knowledge at all of the corrupt, incompetent politicians and bribery prone officials who have stepped in to make the mess even bigger. This is one the reasons that I always try to go to local news outlets when major stories like this break. Not because they are more inherently "truthful," but because it's easier to read between the lines. Public information agencies in the US have become a lot like Pravda or Novosti in the old Soviet Union. You need to learn how to read what is not in the text. We are all Foucault and Derrida, now.

Now, everybody who rides the buses or takes a taxi is going to demand a wage increase to pay for the buses and taxis. And around and around and around we go. And where we stop, nobody knows.

^^^^I appreciate the response but you can't really blame Emergency Services for not taking these steps after he returned home the first time since he had not been diagnosed with Ebola, right?

And that continued to be the status when ES arrived the second time and he was vomiting and defecating. It is only after his second visit to the hospital and diagnosis was made that abatement procedures could be started.

As for turning away a contracted hazmat crew for a snafu, that is simply called erring on the side of caution and is a far better approach than having allowed them to enter, right?

The failure was with the infected person first and foremost for not telling people he had handled an infected person before arriving stateside and secondly the hospital reporting procedure that allowed for a entrance nurse "note" to not be predominantly displayed on the patient file, thereby allowing the patient history to not be seen by future staff.

I didn't know about the judge--obviously this was a serious breach of protocol.

I don't agree with some things you said and assumed about my post... I didn't clarify it but I was speaking almost entirely about the second time. A lack of a permit with something like Ebola involved is something that an official should have just overridden ... Ebola is not a sewage line break or diesel fuel on a road... it kills people.. And it should not have been a private clean up crew --- a city or county crew would have the authority to just do it. The Dallas police and County Sheriff's department should have controlled all access - then no stupid judge trudging in... Local apartment workers were the first clean up with a power washer... The police and fire department should have strung big yellow tape around the whole area, closed off - family removed and doors locked. Family moved to a secure county facility. And yes I do agree - Duncan most likely knew of his exposure and should have made it clear... creating a chain of events that could very well kill other people.

I add - Emergency Services ... I believe what happened the second time Duncan had to be taken to the hospital - everything about what went on was in my opinion -- AN EMERGENCY... so it is their responsibility.

I am not aware of city or county crews that are qualified in this type of medical hazmat nor that have the equipment or training and I was a volunteer fireman for over two decades, albeit retired 20 years ago. It would not be unreasonable for a privately contracted hazmat service to have the proper equipment for multiple types of hazmat events.

Since 9/11 billions of dollars have been pumped into preparing state and local agencies for just such emergencies. For years, especially in the DFW area, there were highly publicized emergency drills. When I lived there until six years ago, state, county, and city agencies and politicians constantly crowed about how prepared they were. And the first time out of the gate, they fall flat on their face. It's all PR.