Day 13. 27.01.22. Around Chiang Mai.

Today i went for a stroll around the walled city this morning which was enjoyable.
An afternoon ride up to Doi Suthep and on to Doi Pui was great. I managed to get a photo of Doi Inthanon due to little burning smog blocking the view. I tried to ride on to the big pine tree beyond Doi Pui campsite, but the road is closed for construction.

Day 14. 28.01.22. Around Chiang Mai.

Day 15. 29.01.22. Around Chiang Mai

Another morning walk around Chiang Mai old city.

Day 12. 26.01.22. Pai to Chiang Mai. 196 km

Today was a lot colder than yesterday but I was prepared for it and really enjoyed a leisurely ride to Wat Chan then onto Samoeng Viewpoint before riding to Royal Enfield for a service.

They were booked a week ahead! But they agreed to do the work.

A slight issue refusing to answer if I was fully juiced up with the magic juice found me hunting for another hotel though. I was going to ask her if she had proof of not having HIV, but for once I kept quiet.

Day 9. 23.01.22. Around Tak 163 km

Today i took a ride to Khlong Wang Chao National Park

As I wanted to get high in the mountains as possible.

https://goo.gl/maps/UnuhvDQzQzR5e4Fi8

 A 220 baht entrance fee was too high considering what they offered.

There was a camping area near the park entrance on a river that was packed. As continued on up the mountain as my plan I came to a wooden bridge when the tarmac road finished. Usually no issues at all, but today I was not confident riding across at all. There were grooves in and I have a total lack of balance at times. The further I went I the mountain the less happy I was, so I decided to give it a miss and rode back

Very strange to feel like that and will go again on another bike.

https://www.relive.cc/view/vNOPYRYNW26

Day 6. 20.01.22 Ban Kruat to Lopburi. 328 km.

A boring and unpleasant ride today, just straight and busy roads.

Lopburi seems closed, found a hotel which is ok, can’t find bars or restaurants that are open online.

I went to see a couple of the Khmer sites, the first one was not on google maps but in the center of town, Wat Indra.

Just around the corner was Prang Khaek, which was a better find. Monkeys everywhere though.

https://www.relive.cc/view/vrqDd8WxZwq

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

Did you get up north yet?

Yes, posting now ????

On 2/5/2022 at 4:56 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Here is what I was responding to in your post:

 

"Countries or areas with strictly enforced mandated masks had the same infection rates as places without.
What a scientist mocks up in a lab does not work in the real world in this case."

 

My response is to the fact that you claim what is mocked up in a lab is not the same as in a real world study. The real world studies I posted directly refute your claim. Would you like to respond to them or yet again ignore them?

 

Or as I suspect go back again to a UK MP which I have no interest in and which has nothing to do with the evidence I've presented and you have not acknowledged? If so I have finished my discussion with you.

 

Here's one:

 

Largest study on masks and Covid-19 demonstrates their effectiveness in the real world

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

 

Here's another:

 

“These data from real-world settings reinforce the importance of consistently wearing face masks or respirators to reduce the risk of acquisition of SARS-CoV-2 infection among the general public in indoor community settings,” the CDC said in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/04/covid-mask-effective-n95/

 

 

 

I suspect go back again to a UK MP

What are you talking about? 

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

I don't care about a UK minister I care about those real life studies I posted. This was my whole point and why I addressed your comment on lab studies not the UK MP.

The minister is the spokesperson for the whole country, you may not care, but if a country can't provide the proof, especially as they are trying to do so to control the population you should pay attention to that fact.
I am not 100 percent sure, but this was based on real life studies, not in the lab.

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

You keep talking about lab studies and they don't transfer to real world settings, however, I posted for you a "real world" study, the largest ever undertaken. 

 

Here's another:

 

“These data from real-world settings reinforce the importance of consistently wearing face masks or respirators to reduce the risk of acquisition of SARS-CoV-2 infection among the general public in indoor community settings,” the CDC said in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/04/covid-mask-effective-n95/

 

 

And i point you to the fact a Uk minister who promised to to provide the facts that they work work, has been unable to do so. If he could as promised he would have done.

On 2/4/2022 at 8:22 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Not talking about the UK I was referring to your separate statement which was....................

 

Largest study on masks and Covid-19 demonstrates their effectiveness in the real world

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

 The problem seems to me as what scientists can show in a lab are not relevant in the real word.

22 hours ago, chang1 said:

He did say there was evidence and the results from studies in schools was about to be published. What he couldn't say was how effective masks in schools would be. This is understandable as it is very hard to give precise figures. 

This is very different to him not supplying any evidence. 

Was there a follow-up interview where he discussed the evidence as he said he would?

What he said was just that, spoken words no proof as requested. 
The report did not prove anything. Which i suggest why the mask mandate in England has ended.

Just now, chrissables said:

Take a look, start a one minute and you will listen to the government minister unable to supply evidence,

 

 

The proof he said was being published the next day, proved nothing at all.

24 minutes ago, chang1 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/b25d1ac3-b35e-453c-918e-731e2f214131

 

This from the FT gives some information on this. Here they say masks reduce infections by 6 to 15%.

What were they being asked to show proof of? Very hard to compare different countries as there are too many variables. 

Common sense would suggest putting a barrier between an infected persons mouth and other people is bound to reduce infections. How much difference is up for debate. Do you have links to evidence that masks make no difference? 

Take a look, start a one minute and you will listen to the government minister unable to supply evidence,

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Here's a real world study for you..............

 

Largest study on masks and Covid-19 demonstrates their effectiveness in the real world

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

https://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/67-2021/testimony/HPOLSUB-1323-20210204-5275-F-SEELY_BRADLEY.pdf

And as i mentioned already the UK government have been asked live on TalkRadio (youtube) and were unable to supply the proof.

Just now, chang1 said:

Have you ever looked for any proof? 

From https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

 

The British government have been asked asked many times to show actual proof, cabinet ministers have disclosed that there is no proof.
Countries or areas with strictly enforced mandated masks had the same infection rates as places without.
What a scientist mocks up in a lab does not work in the real world in this case.

13 hours ago, Dcheech said:

This news release soft sells what Anutin was actually saying. Anutin complained that foreigners tend not to wear masks to protect themselves and others from possible covid infections. He stated that maybe it is cultural but they will discuss it with the CCSA and what is to be done about it. That comes as Thursdays new infections topped 9,000.

SO you are free not to wear masks, but Anutin and Thailand, know who is actually spreading the virus. Go ahead, give them a visual, make his day.

 

Beside there is zero proof they work.

On 1/23/2022 at 8:59 PM, aussiexpat said:

I've been away for over 2 years and have about 10 letters in Thai with valuation numbers and fees so I assume this is what it's  about.

 

Can't understand any of it. Is there an agent in Pattaya who can sort it out? 

 

Never had this bill for 10 years prior to my covid isolation?

 

Just go to the town hall north Pattaya they sort it out.