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Also, the school or agency might have told him they were going to pay for a visa run originally and then kept putting him off with excuses.  That is the fine art of Thai lies, they keep delaying things but make you feel it is being worked on and will happen tomorrow.  Then you get told not to ask too many questions or you will make people lose face.  So you wait around nicely.  Time is going by, you get told...don’t worry, no problem, you think too much, be happy.  Smile. Laugh.  

Then he was on overstay, and they owe him a month’s pay, now somebody comes up with a fake theft that did not happen ...but tell him they think he did it.  Give him the choice to leave without money or get police involved??

I can totally see this happening ....

Just now, esposa said:

He had a friend already working for the school/agency (I'm not sure which it is) he originally worked for. He was foolish ever getting on that plane!

So that is what happened?  How or why he came here?  They do have agencies who get jobs for people, they are notoriously bad usually.  An agent has more motives to screw people, in my opinion, he gets paid well from a school and any money that doesn’t go to the teachers, goes to the agency.  The agent also kicks back money to people in the school.  

You might want to consider that this is a well thought out scam and he is not necessarily a jerk for falling for it.  Certainly if he has no experience.  They don’t get work permits because that costs money, they hire people without the proper education, because they work cheaper, but the school pays the proper rate, agent gets the difference.  They promise pay that doesn’t come, I don’t know all the tricks but there are teaching forums I used to read sometimes about it.

Well if you think about it, this all could easily happen to a person by falling for a teaching scam.  They tell people to come and don’t worry about anything, work first, get visa later, and maybe this young guy did that, flew here with one way ticket, then didn’t get paid what he thought??  Now will keep getting screwed because now no real employer will touch him with that passport, that is what I think too.

How much commission do those Elite reps make???  Anyone know ....

3 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

A few years back I was staying at a place called Veerchai Court...located between the Tha Phae Gate and Ping River.   I travelled on foot most of the time and was very annoyed to see the signs posted on utility polls in the area.  Probably been removed now...but the unfriendly message they conveyed left an impression.

I remember those I think ...but that was more than a FEW years back, that was more like a decade???  I think it had to do with noise mostly also, but I’m not sure.

Well we can clearly see that delusion has a positive role in the life of some people it seems.

2 hours ago, Mikeasq60 said:

In America they charge the same price regardless if tourist or resident. 

Yes, bankrupts everyone equally there!!!

15 hours ago, AJS150654 said:

I voted yes, but it would have been good to be able to comment in the voting section, so I am doing it here.

 

I have no problem with the Thai Government asking for Inpatient Cover, but cannot understand the need for outpatient cover, 40,000 baht, whIch Is about $2,000 AUD. If you need to see a doctor and can't pay, you shouldn't be seen!!

 

You saying this, made me think, the insurance company might want to pay for outpatient care for their own protection.  If cheap or broke people won’t go to a doctor to save small amounts of money, they may end up with a  hospitalization that then the insurance will have to pay.

1 hour ago, baboon said:

Two things folks can do are spreading the word as widely as possible and spending their money elsewhere. 

I wonder if Thai women who are involved with these men, get on FB and tell their friends how their boyfriend was not allowed to visit Thailand, how his big money on tickets and visa was wasted, how she is afraid to lose him and his support now.  Is she going to find a replacement from the program of waiving the 2000 baht fee for VOA for some limited weird countries like Ethiopia and Vanuatu during their 15 day max stay??  

5 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Prayut: "Yes I'm very concerned about low income earners, that's why I want to create a new taxes for billionaires, like me. You know billionaires, like me, create all the wealth....the employees don't contribute at all really, so the billionaires and hisos, like me, should keep all their money and the lazy idea good-for-nothing low income people should have to pay a special tax to billionaires, like me, to thank them for all their hard work."

Let’s be honest here ...you stole that quote from Donald Trump.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Say what! Explain what does your home country afford Thai tourists. With my Thai partner we visit Japan twice a year as Thai can obtain 15 day visa exempt. Even then the return fight is required to get on the departing flight. Have taken her to OZ many times. That was MANY page application with me as sponsor. I give up trying to take her to Europe etc. Just too hard. 

Even with her multi entry 12 to Au....do you think I could fly her to say Singapore for w/e then return. Do 4 times in a year. NO!

Get over yourself. 

Are you saying that you think your Thai person cannot go to Singapore?   Because they can, it is part of ASEAN.

6 hours ago, tabarin said:

The power of cooking at home; home made pizza with spinach and bacon + 2 cheeses at 30B. So now people know the margins hehe.

Oh come on ...30 baht a bite you mean to say??

5 hours ago, Thaidream said:

So you are saying that all people working on line in Thailand are paying taxes to their home country and if American they are registered as being self employed and their  company is also providing benefits.  Not happening

 

Self employed people in the US have their business registered with the Government and have an ID number issued.  They are required to pay Social Security and Medicare  taxes -double the amount that is normally split  between a worker and an employer.  In addition- they are required to pay  Federal, State and local taxes.

 

Hardly misinformation- and I don't go on rampages- I simply tell it like it is.  If American- You may want to check the IRS Regulations as well as the US Social Security Administration.

Here we go, I didn’t want to bother going back and quoting your old posts with contradictions, and wrong information.  I am not on a computer so that is more difficult.  But now you are adding things I don’t remember being in the discussion at all, such as are they “paying benefits”.  I thought we were talking about digital nomads which I see as freelance work, more or less.  Not people with employees.  That takes everything in a whole different direction doesn’t it?  

You tend to write things in a way that makes the meaning incorrect ...like above, the way you talk about SS and Medicare taxes, your statement says that a self employed person must pay double the amount that is paid by the employer and employee normally.  I know I think what you mean, but that is not what you wrote.  Maybe you are not American and truly didn’t understand ....I’m not sure??  But if you are self employed you pay your employee share as normal, and you pay the employer share, since you are also the employer ...making that amount double what it was when you were only an employee of a company, since that tax is split equally.   But you don’t pay double that total amount.

Then your your comment about paying Federal and State taxes ...well all 

Americans have to pay Federal taxes no matter where they live, so it doesn’t matter a lot what way they are doing business or getting their money, for a small guy working alone, he is not a corporation.  He doesn’t have to pay state tax if he is not a legal resident of any state.  He doesn’t owe sales tax, he is not selling things. 

Just because people you work with don’t 1099 you doesn’t mean you are not responsible to report your income.  If they are all paying their taxes or not, I don’t know but many business owners and freelancers who live in the US cheat like hell so what is the difference??  You don’t have to register to be a freelance worker.

I think one reason we had a lot of digital nomads, is because younger people could not find good jobs after 2008, some people who also got laid off from previously decent jobs, they took off to low cost of living areas, just like retirees, and decided to enjoy the time, see the world before they had a house and 3 kids, and they got by some lean years this way.  They may have used some benefits, some savings, done some work however they could, and passed five years on the road, good for them ....better than wasting away for minimum wage getting depressed and doing nothing important anyway.  Those jobs were not going to be paying a pension ...no jobs do anymore, if American they don’t get health insurance usually, get no BENEFITS ...many of you baby boomers had a great career situation that is not happening the same way these days.

I have a feeling you aren’t American and got a few facts off ...maybe ...the fact that you would even say providing benefits as if that is a legal right ...that is not an American thing ...getting paid is about the only legal right you have.

 No1, when I wrote to Fred what you quoted from me above, I was somewhere in the middle of reading this long thread.  It shoots my answer towards the end.  Then I continued to read and more posts happened ...understand how it works??

However regarding your man with two different ages ...isn’t that due to one age being the man in the story who got rejected, the engineer, who is 53, and the other man who is older, is the poster who has has an account on TV?.

I don’t personally think this is such a big deal.

7 minutes ago, FredGallaher said:

I don't disagree with what Thai Dream has written, except his views on healthcare. However, he's free to express his views honestly. Not everyone agrees with your views and should not be put down others for expressing them. If you simply shut down and refuse to listen to opposing views how can you listen. 

Using terms like "rampage of misinformation and nonsense" shows the narrowness of thoughts. 

 

Fred in a few posts, ThaiDream made several factual mistakes, they are not opinions.  Regarding SS and taxes and things, I read it several hours ago and I don’t feel like going over it again, he blatantly contradicted himself within the post, which is why I used the word nonsense ...as in ...it made no sense.  

Thank you for your efforts to control me.  I notice you do that often with people.

Well you can get proof of address document from immigration with your rent contract.

I mean, people like to buy cars within the same province where they live because of some kind of paperwork hassle.  I don’t know exactly how difficult it really is or not, but at times I wanted to go to Bangkok too, for more choices, and I was often told about that.  People made it sound like it was impossible.  But they might have been bull<deleted>ting me to some extent?

Proof of Address ...do you have yellow book???

You absolutely do not need a work permit to buy a car in your own name.  I bought my first car with nothing, a tourist visa.  I always bought new cars from dealers though so I didn’t have to bother much with paperwork.  

I believe though, that there is an extra level of difficulty to bring a car to another province??  You might want to double check that before you do it