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10 hours ago, Martyp said:

 

I agree. No one should be paying bribes or have to pay a bribe. The suggestion of a bribe was given to him by his friendly landlord. Personally I would be concerned that getting caught offering a bribe would get me in more trouble. However this is Thailand. I recently had the opportunity to see bribery in action during a land purchase. So . . . I guess it happens.

Not correct. Immigration forced the call to his landlord, twice, so that they would have a Thai person to suggest the extortion/bribe to ....you know, because Thai people understand these things.  Then she probably explained to him how and what to do, also keeping immigration’s hands cleaner.  

They probably want us to spread this all around our networks so that other so-called stupid farangs who are not getting it, will have put the money in the passport already, to start with.  So I guess if you are worried about not getting let in, stick $100 bill inside.

1 minute ago, taninthai said:

It’s his 1 st post but has been travelling to Thailand for years...yeah alright????????????????????

I have a friend who I have known since childhood and he has lived here since the 1990s and he has never posted here, and only checked it out a few times when I mentioned it ...so one day he could write a story, people might just want to seek it out for a special event, that makes perfect sense to me??

It’s really more like extortion than bribery, certainly when you have done nothing wrong and deserve to come in.  And they suggest it.  

21 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Does her sexuality by your assumption reflect on her enforcing the rules which she is authorised and obligated to do?

Had a male officer done the same, would your heteronormative attitudes reflected on his orientations?

 

You breached the regulations and were rejected,  not  the fault of the officer that you presumed you were "entitled" to be given opportunities which are not allowed.

 

Why don’t you guys back off  ....replace lesbian with black ...the black officer did XYZ.  There is nothing offensive in his sentence, it is purely descriptive.  If it is not illegal, immoral, offensive, whatever to be gay, just like to be black, then how can using that in a sentence be offensive to you??

The gay bartender served me some drinks.

is that offensive?  

To Dr. Literal, you must be having a hard time here?  Even after all these years here you don’t know that the phrase Thai wife, does not always mean legally married?  Probably in most cases when you hear it, it does not?  And when discussing children it is often stepchildren or the girlfriend’s child from another man to be literal.  Understand now?

19 hours ago, scotsman said:

Just to update everyone we did not need any witness and we had to sign all documents.

 

Now today after we went to kasikorn bank we received 2 copy's of the transaction we also updated the Bangkok bank letter and updated passbook on the way.

We arrived at immigration at 11pm it was empty just one couple in front of us, When we sat down with the boss lady she went over all the doc again and I showed her the Kasikorn receipts and also again the transverwise pdf this time she wanted a copy of the transferwise one so I went and got it. 

 

Then she asked me in very bad English about why I am changing from Retirement extension to Marrage one and she pointed to one of my transfers that was for 65k I told her that was a one off transfer to pay a bill in Thailand. I had to explain to her that i got my retirement one because I had a UK pension letter. 

Now I can't get that letter and the pound is now down to 37 so I have to change to marrage she was not happy with my answer.  She tried to talk Thai with my wife about this but all my wife knows is what I tell her and she told her in Thai I have to change visa because of no UK pension letter and I don't have 65k a month pension now as the baht is 37. 

 

Well now she sorts out all the documents again and tells me in English a lot of something but I just could not understand her so I was a little abrupt and said in Thai I don't understand what you are saying. 

So now she collects all the paper work and tells us to follow her into the big boss room where 2 Thai officers were there one is the boss of retirement desk seen him before the other one behind the desk I have not seen before. 

 

She spoke to him and she pointed to a page with a yellow line through it and then she went away outside back to her desk.

The boss man tells me and my wife that I nearly got it right but this time we have to say no as you can see in your Bangkok Statements on the first 6 months ones that I got from my bank.  He points out the one they highlighted in yellow the date was the 10.01.2018 and I had transferred 37k he said it should be 40k I never counted that transfer as being part of my extension as it is to old.

 

Now I and my wife pointed out to him that my last visa was with a pension letter from the UK and on Jan 2019 there was a police order to put 65k or 40k into a Thai bank every month but that there should be a grace period,  He ask my wife in Thai were she had seen this and my wife said on the internet but he dismissed her and told me in English that the starting date was from 1st jan 2018 and I did not have 40k on that date I told him I have 12 times 40k from sep 2018 up to this date so you want more?  He said you just had to get the first one right on his date 1st of jan 2018 Don't ask me why. 

 

There is nothing we can say or do that will make him wrong and us right so we said we would go outside Thailand and get a new category o visa and start again.

He said if you can get 400k when you come back with the new visa I will give you the one year so we left it at that.

 

Now after 20 years living here with my wife I have never been refused a extension this will be my first time on the back of a lie from the boss with his interpretation only 

Well I am not going to go for a new visa outside Thailand I am going to a agent to get this one renewed I will update later but for now they don't want to do the paperwork for this type of extension.

 

Regards

Scotsman            

Sorry that happened to you.  They are just stealing your money.  I wonder if they want people to start offering them bribes rather than going to agents for small things like this??  Did you ever consider asking him if there was some way to help you??

Part 2 of above story: My flight was the last one of the night and I was one of the last to go through but I had come before and pre-cleared us in case we would have any problems, due to having my dogs downstairs.  When I came back and went through security, suddenly immigration pretended I had never done that, and they had never seen me before.  Also they held me up considerably 3 months before on a flight home for Xmas so I was super prepared this time.  

I showed them every document that exists, over and over, they kept looking at it (the boss lady) as if she wasn’t really seeing anything.  She started at some point to say that I had really offended her and was in big trouble now.  I did not take that seriously really, as in I was not worried, because I have never made any officials upset in 14 years, and I had said almost nothing, just passed over papers and answered questions.  Off to the side is the thing going on with my daughter, them trying to intimidate her several feet away from me and in Thai.  The boss kept getting into weird staring contests with me for some reason, I kept thinking well like dogs, first one to look away is weaker so I’m not looking away.  Now I realize she was trying to keep me from looking around probably.

I reminded this woman that she knows me, she cleared me to go at Xmas?  And other times too, she must remember?  I am just ignoring the fact that I was cleared to go through an hour ago because I realize something is going on now, but I am confused what is it?? I see one lady give me some sad eyes and look down.  I am surrounded by what seems to be every person who works behind in the office, walking around me and my luggage, 4 or 5 people.  They ask me for ridiculous things, like they want my certified English translations I have used for her immigration in the US embassy.  That I am not going to give them.  I say, for what ...you are the Thai government and you can read Thai and I have the original Thai documents??  So this is going on for maybe one hour!!  They tell me it is the LAW and I should know that and have brought them English copies!!  The airline workers come to see what is going on, everyone is on the flight except us, my dogs are on the plane, and I see boss lady give a nod, like yeah just give me a minute more ...they will be coming.

Suddenly, we are free to go, rush onto the plane, an hour later I want to buy something and guess what??  My wallet that was on the top of my bag is now gone!!  My daughter tells me oh, well I saw that older man in uniform bend down and get in your bag, he sort of looked like he was fixing something

on his shoe I was not sure??  WHAT?  Why didn’t you tell me?  

She starts freaking out ..well I thought they were going to keep me and they were telling me that you were saying bad things and they were going to put you in jail ....she did tell me a few times to stop talking and that I was going to go to jail and I didn’t know why she said that!!  She tried to pull me away when I was answering questions.

 I was in no way close to losing my temper, never raised my voice, I was not even feeling worried about it really because I knew I had every single legal paper that exists in Thailand and I could not imagine not passing the interview.  I had gotten extra legal papers just in case for padding.  I knew the flight could not leave with my dogs and luggage on it and not us ...so I was curious what the hell was going on but I was not freaking out.

Afterwards I discovered a few other things missing.  I used my wallet just before to buy water for the dogs, I used it there to show them things, which they quickly said they don’t need ...like her Thai ID, my Thai ID, anything in my wallet they don’t need, they do need things buried in my suitcase that I was not expecting, they do need me to make copies of every paper with their phone so I am distracted, they are messing up my papers and I am afraid of losing some of them while they put them all over their booth.

I was thinking later of all the people who when moving might have a lot of extra cash they are trying to get out of the country?  You usually will have all your valuables with you, any nice watches, jewelry ...I had my safe deposit box keys in my wallet.  Luckily I had been going to the US a lot lately and had been bringing back all my valuables in each trip or never brought them in the first place.  I still did have some but I reduced it quite a bit.  

I think if they can tell you are moving back, you might be a target for strange things to happen, you could be a walking gold mine, so watch out.

5 hours ago, nightfox said:

Nonsense, I have traveled abroad with my duel citizen Thai son for years and never had a problem, All they want to see is a child's Thai passport leaving and entering Thailand, They don't want to see his Thai ID card or his Thai birth certificate. They don't check or question my son visa status as he is Thai, my visa status yes but not my son, the airline check in staff want to see the other nationality passport that way you don't have to get a tourist visa for your son on his Thai passport.

Don’t tell me NONSENSE!!!  Are you traveling with BOTH parents by chance??  That might be the main difference you are not catching here.  Also, what happened for YEARS is not relevant anymore, I also traveled for years too with my daughter with barely a care in the world, and then a gradual crackdown, leading too, she will never come again until she is a legal adult, immigration scared her so badly thinking they would not let her leave Thailand last time!!  They specifically told her they had the power to keep her and were thinking of doing that, and had her almost in tears and wai’ing the big boss.  They purposely took her aside to mentally abuse her luckily she doesn’t crack easily didn’t give them the satisfaction of crying.  But she was terrified.  We were moving out of Thailand, she had a PR stamp for the US in her passport, and they were telling her/me she couldn’t leave.  House is sold, dogs are waiting on airplane.

Oh, Nonsense ..it never happen to Nightfox so never happened ...when is the last time you got raped Nightfox??  You deny all rape stories too??