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1 minute ago, sjaak327 said:

Is this your way of saying I need an attitude adjustment ? He can read it, this is an open forum. Hope he doesn't use google translate though, the message might not come accross correctly if he did...

Attitude adjustment on the brain,     He may well have a dossier of info,    to give constructive criticism is fine but slagging is not

2 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

Yes they should be ashamed, but you know how the saying goes, who is without sins cast the first stone, the guy claiming they should be ashamed, is leagues and I mean leagues worse than any of the two Shinawatras, and dare I say one of those is a saint compared to Prayuth. He should remain silent about the law and about shame, two topics he knows absolutely nothing about. 

 

How dare he even open his mouth on the subject, he is an utter hypocrite. 

Tell him  not us,   if you live here  ??  can contact him, ask for info, give him your address and passport number   ha ha

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

please send?  even 1?   BTW you don't have a vote as I don't so no one could care less if you would vote for weak Mark and the un-Dems

 

You have AVOIDED answering that you live in a coconut?  you denied there were 'attitude camps' so either you are ignorant or what?  

I have not seen attitude camps,  do you mean detention centers where against the law persons go.  ??   Please tell me where they are  ??  and are they all brainwashing places that you make us think  ??     more likely the agenda rubbish you haters throw in a post every time.

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

But but he can be voted out if the citizens want to. Question is why didn’t they got voted out. Maybe their policies resonated with the voters. Parties like the Dem was voted out for bad policies and corruption

in the past. So Thailand did have a precedent of citizens voting out bad corrupt government. In contrast we got now the military that seized power and refused to have election and stay indefinitely. Their corruptions are blatant and policies poor. People unhappy but can’t do anything because they they can’t be voted out. See the difference?

Yawn.  Maybe  ??Dems--bad polices  ???...indefinitely ??---not see that many unhappy--they not care.  TRUE.....

Just now, backtofront said:

30B gets you world class medical care as well as a democratically elected government? Who are you talking about when you say "their"? What is it that "they" want besides cash and empty promises? An opportunity? You subscribe to the cash for votes ballot system? Democracy? 

 

It is far from perfect in the country. But it is way better than it was.

 

And I think her name was Supinya Klangnarong. It would be interesting to talk to her.

Mark  made a law to say medical now was zero baht for treatment.  remember ??

3 minutes ago, firestar said:

 

AIS was only a computer rental business when he was a Police man.

 

Only when awarded a monopoly contract by his contacts in the military in 1986 to operate under GSM 900 frequency did AIS grow and became the largest mobile phone operator in Thailand. Like I said it is the lack of transparency, nepotism and corruption contracts within the army that created Thaksins he was only a lieutenant colonel when he left the police

 

Your comment makes no sense

 

 

 

Did he pay his dues  ??  when he sold  ??  or did he take them to Dubai  ??

1 minute ago, Veritas48 said:

He broke the law by taking over an elected government by force...do you not understand that?Thian go back to school if you do not understand about an elected government and an unelected government!

Same stuff--one sided.    blinkers on,  Government out before this  Yingluk out,    Rice--remember, amnASTY, overnight to get Thaksin clearance.

4 minutes ago, firestar said:

 

Man you are such an army fan girl... even though Thaksin later chose the Police force he was a product of the 10th class of the Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School. It is his contacts from the Armed Forces Academy that awarded him, a mid-level business man at the time, the monopoly contract in  in 1986  to operate under GSM 900 frequency.

 

Of course they didn't know the value, but it is the complete lack of transparency,  nepotism within the army that allowed such a contract to be awarded to Thaksin in the first place...

 

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Was police ----- Mister Policeman,  total control.

1 minute ago, firestar said:

 

True but it is nepotism and corruption within the Army that made Thaksin in the first place. It is them, the military, who awarded him a monopoly contract on the GSM frequency and made him rich... 

 

If change was to come it isn't the military that is going to deliver it when it is their culture of nepotism, lack of transparency and corruption that has rules thailand for the past 70 years..

Ha ha ha ha,  now it was The army that is at fault for the creation of Thaksin,  ha ha ha      That has to be the most crazy post on this topic but the agenda by the anti other than Thaksin rule

Just now, baboon said:

Would they be the same police who harassed and intimidated the 'We Walk' acivists in defiance of a court order to allow them to proceed?

Just now, baboon said:

Would they be the same police who harassed and intimidated the 'We Walk' acivists in defiance of a court order to allow them to proceed?

No more point in discussion.......heard your agenda enough---roll on a fair Thai government, without your Shins and army control

Just now, firestar said:

 

And do you remember how after the first protest started it was about the airport being full of corruption but the only corruption the commision finnaly found was that the military might had been "a bit greedy" on it's land valuation and King Power (a yellow shirt) supporter had fiddled with the size of it's stores... then unsurprisingly it all went quiet.

 

The yellow shirts also argued it was a megalomaniac project that would bankrupt the government... turns out it is already too small already.

Not to mention red shirts firing Bangkok with weapons --all brought down from Issan with no intervention from  the Thai Police

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Rest easy Ginjag. There wouldn't be any election soon and if it happened, it will be short live as another coup will be planned to oust the PTP government. You subscribed to a power that will never give Thailand any chance to have democracy. Their greed holds no bound and will continue to rob and rape the country. 

WT hell are you talking about SUBSCRIBE  ha ha,.....you're not gone yet you promissed to not post 1 hour ago---but hate anyone spoiling your agenda  along with your Thaksin lover friends.  This topic was always going to be one sided as other experienced posters refrain from posting , sick of the agenda Fallang haters of other than Shins-----wish there was another body in control,  where would you be then   ???   still want Yingluk back and her brother  ha ha

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

I thought you will say that Global Freedom owned by Thaksin. 

Oh dear  same tripe.  get real.

Wish any elections could give Thailand democracy,  but never in this world -- 

Just now, firestar said:

This is the kind of argument people pull out when.. they run out of arguments.

 

The military outright own TV5, licences CH7, two others owned by the goverment they control.

 

Like Prayut himself said in his last televised speech:

 

"It is not true we have limited freedoms too much.....*2 minutes later*........ and those who slander the government including on social media will be prosecuted immediatly"

Your only argument is your agenda, blinkers on about Thaksin but attack the army for their part of not being lawful

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Let's end this argument by referring to the Global Freedom Index. Like I said before, Thaksin did intimidate the media but the media was still able to exercise a degree of autonomy. The Global Freedom Index ranked Thailand at 82 in 2003. The rank in 2017 is 142. End of discussion. 

And the BBC---CNN.......Global freedom   ha ha ha   example,   who compiles the index   G Soros  ??   ha ha   Global elite lefties ??  Quote " the media was still able to  ' ???   Well  speaks volumes,   same the army now, little opposition.

8 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Comparing a major Thai newspaper and a low key English forum !!! Running out of excuses refuting and taking the cheap option. 

FORGOT to answer to the Tai Rak Thai bit  ???   shows your bias........Talking impartiality to you is like peeing against head wind,      both factions are not good but I admit that you love to leave out the Thaksin part and always resort to elections and democracy and a corrupt Junta.   amazing

3 minutes ago, baboon said:

Nobody is watching, or cares at any rate. Do you think if they gave a crap about what we have to say, the likes of JAG Eligius and myself wouldn't have been taken care of long ago?

OH so goodbye to the impartiality ??    

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Who is Sethep? You defending someone the name you couldn't even get right. Pretty hilarious. 

Side stepping the post a trick used world wide   UK Tory--US CNN--UK BBC.

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Thaksin intimidate the media was wrong. Still media freedom was very much better than current draconian restrictions and intimidation. I remember the Nation which was known for its attack on Thaksin displayed a front-page cartoon that portrayed Thaksin with a Hilter-like mustache. Can you imagine any newspaper doing that with Prayut? 

It is done on Thai Visa in many ways every day,    Google Thai rak Tai  about their 1000 % bias,  works both ways if you can accept it   ??

Just now, thaiguzzi said:

Whatever....

I know you have an intense vitriolic dislike for all things Mr T and Mrs Y.

Haters gotta hate...

Not Hate,      your agenda wants to show that, being impartial is important to look at both situations,     I see the bad on BOTH  sides unlike your agenda, it is not an impartial post.

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Just yesterday a news director was forced to resign by soldiers acting on junta order because of his criticism of the regime. Seem even impartial news are even harder to come by during this junta government with criticism not allowed, threat of computer law, attitude adjustments. Prayut may not be kidding when he joke about beheading a soap actor for speaking out. To compare with elected government is a very poor attempt. 

Just the same story--remember Thai Rak Thai,  national newspaper of Thaksin  ??  remember the Thai TV with main channels controlled by him  ??    We have to recognise the bad in both not have an agenda one sided.     This army situ is not ideal at all,  but nothing out there more clean to step in.

2 minutes ago, baboon said:

They can even facilitate their exit in the same way they did Yingluck...

But difficult  not the same as a coward family-------wish they would, but the old saying---" Is there anybody there "   waiting to govern well  ??

1 minute ago, thaiguzzi said:

Excellent post. This is what basically happened. It was never done before, it's not been done since.

And it's why they remain so popular up here in the North and NE and are not forgotten.

Myth about the Issan farmer who believed Thaksin was brainwashed by him, near all the farmers promissed money was given to the millers and large estate land people, he controlled with bribes------and the RED village army, who were given uninterrupted passage through Issan down to Bangkok with the Thaksin police wearing blinkers---  NO EXCUSE for poor rule by the powers that be---but I would never take on the clean up of Thailand--it is too dangerous to try.

Just now, baboon said:

In which case the army too need to be prosecuted for dereliction of duty given they are running the country. 

Oh my god --so they should do the same do a runner for dereliction of duty    ha ha ha    same the Shin family---But a good idea  I agree with you.       Maybe G. Prem and Mark are the type of people who have a chance of good clean governing

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Are there any honest clean fought election by your definition anywhere in a democratic country that you can name? The converse is not a coup but more elections so people can gain knowledge to seek the truth and feel empowered to elect a better government. 

Agreed SURE  IF the people are given the honest truth they can never vote with clear knowledge---here is the Thai problem---given impartial news  by army or elected government.