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Yes, Big Wing has my 1000 now.

this is becoming a bit regular congratulations on yet another new machine,you was talking about they offered you trade in for your cbr just wondering if you took their offer and do you know what will happen to the cbr ,will they sell it 2nd hand in their shop or off load it somewhere else just curious thats all

I heard that they may use them as rental bikes. I guess it will give people a chance for a proper test ride before they buy. They said 650,000 at first, but then some higher up changed it to 600,000. I managed to get 625,000 for the bike in stock form though. I can probably get another 30,000 for all the after market stuff I installed. I also get 25,000 off of the price of the VFR, as this is my second Big Wing Bike.

I am envious for your new bike brian, do not forget to visit the temple for blessing.

do they still keep your cbr1000? 600 k is not bad but it is Japanese spec tops out at 190 kmh but you solved that problem i remembered by some aftermarket parts, right?

Thanks, 625 k actually. I can live with that sale price. A friend of mine who has a Japanese spec is going to buy all of my extras and derestrict his.

This site is great for translation as well. It even spells the Thai words out phonetically in English. http://www.thai2english.com/online/

wow, brian, that is great man, i will come to your shop once you receive it and i am sure you will go to the motor show with it?

it is a dream touring bike of mine Brian, cannot imagine the pulling power of 1200 cc v four from 1500 RPM.

happy rides with it and keep the distance.

It should be here at the shop tomorrow afternoon and I'll be taking it to the motor show for sure. I can't wait to ride it. It has even better acceleration than the CBR 1000. Tops out at only 250km/h though. 555

this is becoming a bit regular congratulations on yet another new machine,you was talking about they offered you trade in for your cbr just wondering if you took their offer and do you know what will happen to the cbr ,will they sell it 2nd hand in their shop or off load it somewhere else just curious thats all

I heard that they may use them as rental bikes. I guess it will give people a chance for a proper test ride before they buy. They said 650,000 at first, but then some higher up changed it to 600,000. I managed to get 625,000 for the bike in stock form though. I can probably get another 30,000 for all the after market stuff I installed. I also get 25,000 off of the price of the VFR, as this is my second Big Wing Bike.

Got a call from Big Wing Bangkok. My new VFR is ready for delivery. I'll be picking it up tomorrow. I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve right now.

^ Looks nice, Joe. The stock bars allow for a more upright seating position, don't they?

Looks good, when is the motorshow unveil? allegedly or otherwise

The show runs from March 27th to April 7th at Muang Tong Thanni. We will be heading up with some customers on the 30th, if anyone is interested in coming along. We will be meeting here at the shop at 2 o'clock and then head up to the show. Free admission, lunch, and VIP parking provided. Hondas only please. Thanks.

Brian

You are running the smoothest honda dealership all over Thailand Brian, our words are not for you here.

You have been great to everyone here with your information and assistance and always hearing good things about your service - which i also did before and it was my best service in a Honda dealership.

But just want to ask Brian, do you earn anything for the service? Isn't it a burden for the dealers and waste of time their staff? I am sure many dealers are thinking like that what i see. For them a customer not coming to the service or sending them out of the shop fast - like without installing an oil filter specified by Honda - is a common practice.

Also, do honda give bad points for bad service, customer dissatisfaction and price gouging? If no, i hope they start to work on a better dealer pointing system.

Thanks.

Thanks for the kind words, Lazer. We are not perfect, but we always try to do our best. I guess some shops care more about service than others. There is money to be made from service, but from the parts, not the labor. Here at Sumet, labor is included in the price of the part. As far as the the dealer not putting a new oil filter, I'm not sure. Perhaps they didn't have any in stock, it was back ordered from AP Honda, or it was an inexperienced mechanic who thought he knew better. At any rate, the reason for not changing it should have been explained to the customer.

Just what Thailand needs, more 250's.

I know, right. Hopefully this is just the start. I wonder if this one will be made locally and if there will be bigger ones to follow.

This pic is making the rounds today on Facebook. People are saying it will be released at the upcoming motor show.

Big Wing Bangkok is owned by A.P. Honda. The other Big Wing branches are independently owned. Mityon got the branch in Pattaya for example. So you are still buying from regular dealers, but with a fixed price on the bikes.

Brian how do all the smaller dealers work us it a franchise bussiness ,Honda set up supply everything ,who supply's and trains the staff,do they go on coarses attend college are they intact doing what we would call an apprentice ship in the western world.

Yes, it is a franchise. It is the responsibility of the dealers to hire the mechanics. Some have gone to technical school and others have learned on the job. A.P. Honda has training courses for mechanics every few months. Dealers are required to send at least one mechanic for this training. We usually send our head mechanic, who then teaches the other mechanics here at the shop what he has learned.

doesnt sound ideal to tell the truth ,so most of them will never get any certification that states they are a reconized and trained mechanic.

If they have graduated from technical school or completed enough training at A.P. Honda they will.

Big Wing Bangkok is owned by A.P. Honda. The other Big Wing branches are independently owned. Mityon got the branch in Pattaya for example. So you are still buying from regular dealers, but with a fixed price on the bikes.

Fixed prices, and better trained mechanics (you'd assume). I hear excellent things about you service department at Sumet Cycle so please don't take this as a dig, but clearly some of the regular dealers have major issues doing very simple things like changing oil and filters.

Therefore Honda are able to control the price gouging and (hopefully) ensure a higher quality of servicing if they sell and service the big bikes only at a select number of BigWing branches. It's much easier for them to control a few big branches than multiple branches on every high street of Nakhon Nowhere. Nothing to do with the cbr500 range being 'made in Thailand', not available elsewhere in the world yet, Thai patriotism or any of the other nonsense spouted on this thread.

I believe there are over 1000 authorized Honda dealers here in Thailand. Most are good, but there are some that are lacking. A.P. Honda accesses dealers every so often and give what they call dealer points. If you send your mechanics for training, you get points. If you do a certain amount of Honda activities, you get points. Etc. Etc. Years ago, nobody cared about the points, as there was no punishment for consistently getting a low dealer score. They are more serious about the points now and if consistently get a low score, you could lose your authorized dealer designation. Hopefully this will help to improve dealer quality in the future.

Big Wing Bangkok is owned by A.P. Honda. The other Big Wing branches are independently owned. Mityon got the branch in Pattaya for example. So you are still buying from regular dealers, but with a fixed price on the bikes.

Brian how do all the smaller dealers work us it a franchise bussiness ,Honda set up supply everything ,who supply's and trains the staff,do they go on coarses attend college are they intact doing what we would call an apprentice ship in the western world.

Yes, it is a franchise. It is the responsibility of the dealers to hire the mechanics. Some have gone to technical school and others have learned on the job. A.P. Honda has training courses for mechanics every few months. Dealers are required to send at least one mechanic for this training. We usually send our head mechanic, who then teaches the other mechanics here at the shop what he has learned.

Big Wing Bangkok is owned by A.P. Honda. The other Big Wing branches are independently owned. Mityon got the branch in Pattaya for example. So you are still buying from regular dealers, but with a fixed price on the bikes.

Are the Z1000s sold here restricted in any way?

The girl at the Bike Saloon gave me this website. They can order anything off of it with no markup. Lots of great accessories for many types of bikes in Thailand, including sport bars I have been looking for. 4700B including bar ends.

http://www.bikers.co.th/

Their FB page. http://www.facebook.com/bikesaloon

We are an authorized Bikers dealer here at Sumet. Being an authorized dealer allows us to offer the lowest prices. Orders over 3000 baht receive a 3% discount. Orders over 5,000 baht receive a 3% discount and free shipping. Parts available for Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Suzuki. Send a PM if interested.

My Versys 650 is a twin and the sound isn't much better than the CBR 500. Even my CBR 1000, which is an inline four, sounded like crap with the stock exhaust. Most bikes today, regardless of engine configuration, sound pretty weak with a stock exhaust.

Just checked the owners manual for a new Click. They have 122 kg as the max weight.

The front sprocket has 14 teeth and the rear has 38.

Here are some pics from the Honda brochure. Shipping available.

You will always get more from a private sale than from selling to a dealer. If you have the time, do a private sale. Only sell to a dealer if you are in a hurry and want to make a quick sale.

If I buy a Forza are givi tall wind shields and racing variators available here?

Not sure if those are available here yet. If I hear anything, I'll let you know.

You will always get more from a private sale than from selling to a dealer. If you have the time, do a private sale. Only sell to a dealer if you are in a hurry and want to make a quick sale.

I tried posting this in PM, but it wouldn't upload for some reason.