KhunHeineken

That was not my experience. Citibank was great. As another member said, NAB just wanted to treat Citibank customers in the same way they treat their own customers, like cr*p. I closed the migrated NAB account. I was disappointed when Diners Club pulled out of Australia also.

Can you post a couple of links to international "cleaning conferences" that you can attend? Are you a cleaning contractor, with your own business and ABN, or work for wages? If you have your own business, you could perhaps claim international travel to a trade show selling new cleaning equipment.

Could someone be leaching off your internet between these times? Is it a closed network?

If one is staying in Thailand under 180 days a calendar year, they are not a resident for tax purposes, thus no tax compliance needed in Thailand.

This one is bigger than "tea money." This one is about collecting money from the masses, in one way or another.

Huh? Cash is cash. You receive it, and don't put it into any account, anywhere, at any time. Cash economy 101.

It's called a re-entry permit for a reason. Are they going to question the cash in the pocket of every returning retirement visa holder, and if they did, if it's under the declarable amount, what's the offense?

Firstly, the safest person in this tax mess is the person staying less than 180 days, but sure, the 65k every month pensioner means a tax liability, and all the bureaucracy that goes with it. As another member hinted at, if some of that 65k is now taxed, they may raise the 65k to 70k. Not scaremongering, just a possibility. You are correct though. They will love these guys for their about 20k in tax every year, which they can't argue against. Easy targets. Money just sitting there for the take. What about if these guys decide to pay and agent, and with what's leave out of would would have been their tax bill they have a short holiday in a neighboring country, at the TRD's expense, possibly bringing in some cash. Could you blame them?

I wouldn't be pushing the boundary that hard. I'll bring in close to the threshold, actually, probably a little over, just to be seen to be on their books and paying something, but minimal. The rest will be brought in, through various forms, and I'll let them search for it and bill me for it, if they can, and do.

That's been most of us, hasn't it? The way I see it is, as it currently stands, by the letter of the law, and I know most don't even want to consider it, the only sure way to hold all the aces, so to speak, is to only do 179 days in Thailand in a calendar year. Do this, and you have zero to be concerned about.

Very true. All will be revealed in 2025, and I dare say, in following years, they will close the loopholes that they discover many have been using. Basically, this policy could evolve to tighten up. I expect these tax threads to keep evolving in the same way. What's allowed in 2025, may not be allowed in 2026, and what's allowed in 2026, may not be allowed in 2027. Times are changing. Computer data bases are now talking to each other, not just domestically, but internationally. It was inevitable, and Thailand has now got onboard.

Who will ask this question, when, and where, and what enforcement may follow? Not saying it can not / will not happen, because as I have said, it's going to be funny in 2025 with all these foreigners having 800k in the bank, but nothing else appearing to be flowing through their bank account. Just interested in how you think the Thai authorities will go about it.

Can and will immigration be able to sort the cash runners from the tourists, particularly if they go hard at this policy, many expats may move onto tourist visas? Serious question?

Or, brought in 15k USD a few times each year on trips to neighboring countries. A debatable topic.

I disagree. There have been many companies and wealthy individuals that have taken on tax departments in Court and won their case. It happens all around the world, with many end up being test cases for those to follow. They scare those without the financial ability to take them on in Court, but many companies and wealthy people have had judgements in their favor at Court, and the tax payer has had to pick up the legal tab for the public servant's incompetence, because the loser pays. I'm Australian, and at one point in time, this guy was Australia's richest man. When the government found out he paid little to no tax one year, it hit the media. He sums it up perfectly, and expats in Thailand should be thinking the same way, particularly as we have no rights here.

We know this, but what about re-establishing residency before applying? As I asked in another post, is it really that easy to fly back into Australia before your birthday, after 20 years away, apply, receive, and fly out again with portability. If so, I would be somewhat surprised, but hey, Australia has an easy welfare system.

I also noticed this in the post. If someone wanted / needed an Aussie pension, why wouldn't they return a week before turning 65 or 67 to apply for it, then, I thought the member may have had a unique set of circumstances prohibiting him from doing so, thus, I didn't bother asking. Out of curiosity, if one was to live outside Australia for say 20 years, then fly home a week before turning either 65 or 67, depending on their birth year, are you stating they can apply for the pension, receive it shortly after, and fly out to Thailand with a portable pension soon after? If so, I am a little surprised it would be that easy, to simply arrive before your birthday, and you can fly out with a portable pension. I would have though one must at least appear to re-establish residency with some documents and an appearance of staying before applying.

Geez, and home many of them do you think there are???? Ohhhh, yeahhhh, and it's on it's way, and not just in Thailand. It's going global.

No, they just don't want to accept the reality that they very well may have to pay tax. They just want to continue on with the same routine they have had for years, and anything out of that square box they shoot the messenger, and bury their head in the sand. Are you suggesting not 1 baht must be paid by "most" expats for "something" in relation to this policy? I have posted what that "something" may be, and it's not necessarily tax, or a bribe, but tax is possible. Why would the Thai's be handing out free passes to falang, any falang?

I'm giving them a chance this first time around. If they tax me to the point I think they are ripping me off, It's Thailand for 179 days in 2025, and Vietnam for the other 6 months.

Try a different browser and post back if it's still happening.

If that's the case, what is the purpose of you starting this thread?

I wouldn't accept such important information verbally. I would be requesting the relevant information be emailed to me, so I can have a record of the correspondence.

Australia now has working homeless people. These people have full time jobs, but sleep in their cars. Government policy over the last few decades has created the Australian housing market Ponzi scheme, and the social damage is now there for all to see, with the pain being felt by many.

A lot of that Aussie humor from decades ago would be banned from TV now. Just goes to show what direction the country is heading in. Those old British comedies the same. Eg. Benny Hill, Love Thy Neighbor. Sexist, racist etc. Just all PC, Woke, whatever, BS. The only place with freedom of speech and humor now is on the stand-up comedy show stage.