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At least this mans speaking sense, and that's what other leading world Dr's are saying and is happening in SA, Scotland has just published a study which says this as well, Dr Mobeen Sayed put the paper up on his site yesterday

The omicron variant is proving to evade 2 shots and 3 shots, because if you watch the latest report from a study in Scotland , that double dosed will catch Omicron and triple dosed have only minor protection. Those infected with Omicron are only sick for 3/5 days and develop immunity to Delta and Omicron, so I can not say the figures as I am not qualified but Dr Mobeen Sayed has put the study up today and all the links to this study are posted in his presentation.

Just to comment on my comment , that newspaper reported Omicron going mad in LOS, but the government has not updated their figures as yet. But something strange is happening, death rates appear to be plummeting.

What Omicron? or delta, seems all cases are now, declared covid sars 2 where as Omicron might have to be reclassified as Sars covid three or Omicron 21, as this is proving to be totally different to Delta and has two pathways for infection which sounds bad but actually is good for us, watch the explanation on the latest update/ research from Scotland with Dr Mobeen Sayed for all the papers ,studies and links to this latest release are in the presentation.

Here is a paragraph from the Thai embassy in NZ to answer entry into Thailand For your information, Thailand Pass is closed for all new Test and Go and Sandbox applications (except Phuket Sandbox), starting from 00.00 hrs. On 22 December 2021 until further notice. New applicants will not be able to register for Test and Go and Sandbox measures (except Phuket Sandbox). Thailand Pass will only accept new applicants seeking to enter Thailand under Alternative Quarantine (AQ) or Phuket Sandbox only. For further information please visit https://wellington.thaiembassy.org/th/content/thailand-pass?cate=5d75e39215e39c06b8005479

Good question, if Ubon Joe is reading this ,Joe my freind is panicking now as he is booked for the 22nd to enter via AQ facility, he has not made the AQ booking yet so will he be still able to enter this way???? as Mr Anutin says only people using the Phuket Sandbox can enter???

Well if it's any good news, in SA they abandoned tracer apps, and told people not to bother getting tested just to stay home for 5 days and then wear a mask for 3 days, but they also said seek medical treatment if symptoms get worse, over 93 % Omicron was the last count a few days ago and the UK is up there as well, however older people are still at risk of more severe infection. The USA is expected to peek by the end of January and Australia, and by the sounds of this Thailand is getting there as well.

A shill more likely

According to the experts no

No, because the stupid worlds puppets are being controlled into thinking that Omicron is as bad as delta when it can not be stopped and is displacing delta and creating good immunity, at least that's what the data from SA is saying. UK data is very similar to the SA data, mild symptoms and lower hospital rates but very high transmission it's spreading really fast now in Australia and same thing happening as SA. Dr Campbell put the data up yesterday that said in the order of who fairs best it was 3 jabs 1 and no jabs 2 then 2 jabs were bottom. With natural immunity to both delta and Omicron development after infection.

Sounds dramatic, wouldn't the Covid Insurance cover her, or maybe the cover does not start until you are released from Quarantine, anyone know the answer to this??

unfortunately true, I avoid them but I have a great brother in law who I trust and has been a best friend now for 20 years, and a few more, all depends on the gambling, whiskey, spoiltness and poverty, unfortunately in all societies, I avoid most NZ males as they are red necked and arrogant, thats my opinion only, and not fact ,that I would have to post a peer reviewed link to, cheers all.

Its to late, the terrorist spreaders have arrived, soon the whole world will have had omicron and got over it, anyhow its certainly looking that way.

The idiots riding at speed, nothings going to change that, tourists or no tourists, just remember to have eyes in the back of your head!

I do not to want to be cinical, but the death toll for Corona yesterday in LOS was 13,according to that newspaper. So your far more likely to, or nearly 6 times more likely to to die from a road accident than corona, might as well open up. Just something that I have noticed in NZ, no delta coming into the country, all Omicron and delta case numbers are rocketing down. If it keeps going this way we might be in for the the ending of the pandemic, hoping so. NZ won't be able to lock the borders any more soon , as there might not be any Delta left, and Omicron seems to peak quickly and then drop quickly, hope it keeps going that way.

Sinopharm proved to be very effective in Iran, see virology in Iran link is on Google

oopps wrong reply but appreciate everyone here that give good advice thanks to all.

Thanks again Joe for your sound advice, it has helped me, to help several people get back to Thailand after being stranded here. I am currently stranded as well but planning to get the heck out of NZ, with my Thai wife and son ,as vaccine mandates cripple society here much worse than Thailand, I think that Thailand is far bettor off, and much more lenient with movement at present. I will be hoping to get back before the winter which is June here, and will seek your advice again as everything is changing by the day. Thanks again best wishes for the new year. Keith

Just based on what has been happening in SA with Delta displaced, this probably is a wise decision. There is a very interesting discussion from one of Iran's leading virologists professor Khansavinejad available, so if you can spare an hour and turn on the subtitles as the accent is sometimes hard to catch, just google'' virology in Iran'' and its just fascinating.

you cant blame tourists for that

Now if you need to visit Thailand you must have a safe driving passport, a doctors medical that you have eyes in the back of your head and covid insurance to make sure your logged as the correct type of misadventure. Hey ! happy happy to you, happy happy, happy happy, happy new year to you, my wife dink one mouthful of John walker and Dunk.

Sorry NZ can enter Thailand for 30 days without a visa, it was extended to 45 days to account for the previous 14 day MIQ. So now I think its gone back to 30 days, and does not include MIQ time, my query was has that has the 30 day visa exempt been extended to cover MIQ again due to Omicron??

Hi Joe , Happy new year, just a query again, my friend has tickets booked to return he is not vaccinated, his Thai wife is and he has 3 children under 10 yrs old that have Thai passports. 1/Do the Thai passport holders have to pay for MIQ. Can he enter Thailand unvaccinated, one problem is Qantas will not let anyone on board with out a vaccine passport, he can change to Singapore air for his flight but I'm not sure if they will let him transit through Singapore. The visa on arrival he will probably use and then apply for a 90 day non O ,then extension. 2/ Is the visa on arrival still 30 days? and not 45, to allow for MIQ, he is booked for the 22nd Feb. He will book an onward ticket required to leave NZ, and enter Thailand 3/ can you send me that link again for the covid insurance, and any other advice you think is necessary. Thanks again for your help and happy New Year.

The source of arrival into NZ is RNZ National news and Newshub NZ One Air NZ crew member and a DJ from the UK who was released from MIQand told to self isolate, then left isolation and was later found to be positive for Omicron, has had extensive movement.

Omicron arrives in NZ and latest from SA https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.26.21268380v1