kiwikeith

On 2/19/2021 at 5:28 PM, internationalism said:

so not tourists (expatriates, workers, businessmen), including repatriated thai, will still have to do 14+ days, but tourists only 2 days (probably to wait for a reliable negative results) and let go to any unprepared hotel or let go to mix with a large group of fellow tourists and travel across the country for sightseeing.

and that in the country, which doesn't have a single dose of vax for it's population (bar some 100k front medical workers).

it will be full failure  

Sounds like this quarantine at home is for those who own or rent properties, I only Say this as the article talks of a special chaperone service. 

Will that be a 10,000 Bhat taxi from BK to Pattaya and then a stationed keeper parked outside your home for 14 days at further costs plus tips for running to the seven 11 and Mac Donald's. 

3 hours ago, fdsa said:

THEY understand it well, it's YOU forum members who do not understand the simple fact: Thailand does not want backpackers anymore, only rich tourists are welcome.

Click "back" button in your browser to go to the "Thailand News" subforum and read all those topics about selling elite condos to Chinese millionaires, converting Pattaya to Dubai and such.

By the time Thailand opens up, all backpackers, hostels, guest Houses will be owned by the Chinese, and will have been converted into gold shops, money exchanges, and Chinese hotels. 

Maybe we will see a few casinos thrown in as well. 

Then when the high speed cattle trucks start to run business will boom for Chinese investors, they probably won't be accepting  Bitcoin. 

On 2/19/2021 at 10:06 PM, SVC Porter said:

Thailand will get fleeced big time if they get themselves wound up in Crypto

How will you pay the bar fine,? 

On 2/16/2021 at 9:20 PM, keith101 said:

You don't need Covid-19 to kill people here just put them on a a motor bike and it  will just happen .

There was a falung economist on international news yesterday praising the way Thailand has been handling covid 19 compared to Europe, USA ect. 

Not one baht has been invested in road safety, not just Thailand but the whole world is letting people die on hospital waiting lists while politicians invest in vaccines with tax payers money, that they then buy off the drug companies all because they passed legislation that gives the drug companies rights to own what they develop from your money. 

The road deaths mean nothing to the mad men running the club. 

On 6/12/2008 at 12:47 AM, BIG SPUDS said:

Please does any one know any thai name ideas that i could call my new baby girl due august 16th.

Me the wife havent a clue? any ideas appreciated

Lek, means small, very popular, Dow is not so common and a nice name 

On 2/18/2021 at 12:46 AM, RichardColeman said:

There's a clue in there somewhere, if only I could find it

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He could have a Thai passport 

14 minutes ago, oznomad said:

I just learned that having a roof causes more rain to fall.

The Chinese have it covered, they are going to build a water purifier plant and all those new downpipes will send rainwater to the plant which they will then bottle and sell to the Chinese tours.

You might even get a boutique brewery making Walking St Pure Ale, made for pure Phuket rain water.

On 2/13/2021 at 11:22 PM, Orton Rd said:

They need to bury the sex trade as well

Do not worry the Chinese investors have it well planned, there will be high class Chinese spas incorporated into the hotels above them. There will be Chinese restaurants, gold shops and money exchanges.

The beach front will provide parking for the tour busses the whole thing will be a pleasure to the investors.

In the mean time when the tourists start flocking back the new walking st of old will rebuild itself in a different area, I mean you can't expect to hog all that prime parking space on the beach just to hang out in a girly bar .

Look what happened to Pratunam in BK, it shifted a few blocks to Sukhomvit,no one hardly knows it was the red light area during the Vietnam war.

Just now, kiwikeith said:

 

1 minute ago, kiwikeith said:

Nearly all the girls I ever talked to in a bar had a baby

with the grandma,

I used to play palm reading game, you have baby in Esan? yes how you know, your husband no good gamble to much, drink to much, have mia noi to much, he run away give you no money... how you know?

Then they would all line to have their palms read.

Thailand does  have a problem with slave labour as young Thais don't want to be guma gones (common laborer)

Now that the bar girls are unemployed there should be plenty of laborers around.

 

But mind you the first to get on the shovel would be a Thai girl they are good workers.

 

Ig the Thai government banned Burmese workers from entry now, there should be plenty of beautiful maids available and there should be no shortage of Thai labour at present  with the covid situation

On 2/12/2021 at 4:21 PM, ThailandRyan said:

Looks like migrant workers will be in demand for higher paying jobs.  Looking like India, Japan, and S. Korea will also need to supply workers into the IT infrastructure as well as engineer's and such from Europe, the west and other countries.  But then this only my opinion, who knows maybe Covid times will produce a Baby boom here in Thailand.  Saw many pregnant Thai ladies when I visited the Hospital the other day.

Nearly all the girls I ever talked to in a bar had a baby

with the grandma,

I used to play palm reading game, you have baby in Esan? yes how you know, your husband no good gamble to much, drink to much, have mia noi to much, he run away give you no money... how you know?

Then they would all line to have their palms read.

Thailand does  have a problem with slave labour as young Thais don't want to be guma gones (common laborer)

Now that the bar girls are unemployed there should be plenty of laborers around.

But mind you the first to get on the shovel would be a Thai girl they are good workers.

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On 2/12/2021 at 5:06 PM, ThailandRyan said:

Why would life be empty without having Children.  Some people relish the idea of a kid free environment.

think there is a birth rate problem, but there is a slave labour problem, even now with Covid Thais will not lower themselves to be Gumagones, even if bar girls' future future looks bleak.

13 hours ago, Soikhaonoiken said:

Will beleave it when I see it... 

Yes, I am befuddled, how they figured this out, they seem to have dropped the astra zeneca, which is all over the news now as unable to be effective with the vastly spreading new strains. 

Strangely no mention is made of the others, at the moment we are witness to a worldwide mess, but don't worry they will tweak the vaccine, and the memorised politicians will conduct a circus, orchestrated by Billy Gates and the rest. 

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What they say now is better to have a dud shot of a unproven vaccine, even though we know its a failure, however we will keep pursuing this and pay the drug companies, because we have to learn to save face, even though we do not give a dam. 

So all you tax payers are in for the greatest show on earth. 

The period of germ warfare is rolling out. 

Sadly and obvious, Donald Duck is more important on death row, than your Granny, loved all your life, sadly to go out, Because Walmert and the boys had to stay open 

9 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Yes but the  hard done by TVF members posting  here about their scammed by tuk tuk drivers experiences don,t share that reality. “Tough as nails” world travellers who can,t manage a ride in a cab!     Geeez. Really?

Banks receive money from the government printing press. Usually backed by govt bonds (pieces of paper) or securities, then the banks give it to the poor to buy things, like food and houses, cars and Tuk Tuks, who in turn have to pay interest to the banks. Then the banks take whatever you have got left when you fail to repay, and land bank it for future profit, or use land and houses confiscated as securities so they can get more money from the printing press to give to you to buy another car or house .

I have no sympathy for banks , they and the stock exchange pilfer the world at will. 

The USA is heading towards the end of FIAT currency which has lasted 50 years , the average of other bases for the dollar have lasted 20 years.

Maybe time to switch to gold silver or Bitcoin.

16 hours ago, smedly said:

 

does it include migrant workers - I think not

No wonder the mail receiving trade flourishes, receiver of the brown ones without stamps, a good trade to be in.

7 hours ago, SupermarineS6B said:

Those of us who have been in Thailand a long time all know that tourism and the attraction of Thailand was on it's way down way before C19 turned up.  Whoever's running the country should know that people do not, and will not jump through hoops in mindless military fashion.  Thailand (WAS) always an easy place to travel to and enter, it was cheap, good fun, good food, and it drew millions from all over the world and Thailand and those in the tourist industry were making a mint. 

Now the present situation under let's say military rule, because we all know that's what it is, has driven away those millions of tourists from all backgrounds who brought money into the country and happily spent it.

I'm not buying into the sympathy pitch the Gov and the TAT's coming out with, as far as i'm concerned it's all of their own making, very similar to bar girls years ago that were given everything on a plate and then lost it all through stupidity, then you used to see them slicing their arms with a carving knife in mad frustration of how stupid they'd been....... I find it amazing that individuals were given (Stolen) such a money maker as Thailand and have thoroughly destroyed it, and all that's left of the farangs is the married, hard liners that won't admit the end, and those who can't leave because they've put too much into the country...........The happy go lucky characters that made Thailand so interesting have all moved on, or should i say pushed out, and what's left is hardly worth jumping through all the raping hurdles the Gov has set up..............  What a shame....... 

 

Sadly I agree, even if covid-19 dried up tomorrow, the government would want silly insurance money and other stupid restrictions, on the top of a broken airline, then those tourists who filter back would find extorted hotel prices ect, ect, ect. 

18 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

To be accurate here, this is not true. It is not Covid.

It is the government's response, closing of borders or 14 day 'pay yourself into a 5* hotel' is the reason that there are so few tourists/foreigners.

Many foreigners have family, jobs, retirement homes here. They could and would quarantine at home. The government has killed the goose.

Friends of mine have quarantined themselves at home where they live.

They calculated that it would cost them 7,000 GBP (280,000 THB?) to get here and then stay in their home as they would self quarantine again. (They have been coming here for more than 20 years. Four months every year.)

I am not saying that the government is right or wrong. Just saying that what is printed is NOT the reason.

This government has said for a long time now that it wants 'quality tourists'. Well this is the result.

Just over 11,000 - per month.

 

If you quarantine at home you need support, trained and qualified. 

Self isolation requires this and if you test positive while isolating ur taken to a quarantine facility, that's the NZ version. However those entering the country are not allowed to quarantine at home. Those who self isolate are close contacts of known cases, they are monitored and transferred into quarantine if they test positive within 14 days. 

Since the knew South African strain has arrived NZ has had to close one quarantine hotel as cases started spreading through droplet transmission and a few people were released only to test positive after 14 days spent in quarantine 

They are now upgrading the hotel ventilation and aircon, as well as tightening all quarantine procedures. 

So vaccine passports will not be a guarantee, especially now that South Africa has suspended the astra zeneca trials as the vaccine is not working on the new strain to well. 

What we might see is only certain vaccine types might be approved for the, wait and see passport. 

30 minutes ago, natway09 said:

May as well let all the bars open in Bangkok as many are operating anyway.

I find it frustrating when Mr Plod charges 2 bars Bht 10,000  in one area for opening & closes them for a month,  & right next door allow 3 bars to open on payment of Bht 10,000 each per month

Meanwhile the small bars who have been obeying the restrictions are not allowed to even blink an eye.

It is just getting silly

So right, did you know that Mr Plod has bullet proof shoes so he can't shoot himself in the foot.

4 hours ago, ChakaKhan said:

man never thought Id see the lights out at a 7-11--that speaks volumes in LOS

 

No way in Hell Id be the sucker walking around there as a farang target, its bad enough walking down Loy Kroh having the chubby Isaan Grannies cat calling you pre-covid....

 

Would remind me of those coming into Swampy currently only to watch the sad faces on taxi slags as the ASQ crew sweeps you up and chucks you in a private van(Quarantine Can) ????

You just reminded me Loy Kroh was scary before covid if you walked down to far the ladyboys were scary.

Just looking at the pics of walking St I would not venture down there, it looks scary.

Most of Thailands or probably all of Thailands  bar areas look like this now, there is some good videos on YouTube.

My Thai wife just told me that most bars are shut now in Hua Hin, and those falangs that are left are drinking at home, a stroll in the early evening or daylight might see a few expats in the odd bar, but I would not venture out at night down these ghost alleys now.

4 hours ago, tonray said:

I'm hoping the Chinese vaccine is all used up by the time they get around to expats, rather pay for Astra Zeneca vaccine then get a free SinoVac.

Latest News Today, South Africa has suspended trials of Astra Zeneca Vaccine as it is failing to be effective against the new strain.

Although they say this is a temporary measure, Astra Zeneca are now rushing to try to provide a modification to the vaccine.

So what this means, is that the vaccine is not working well on the new variants and many countries are looking for supplies of other vaccines to fill in the gap.

So what does this mean for Thailand, will they produce a dud or will they wait for Astra Zeneca to come up with a new variant to what they have, and that won't be done by tomorrow.

The vaccine supply is a shambles and now the Astra does not work on the new strain which is rapidly spreading everywhere.

Thailand would have to think about this, as if they produce the current version, and the new variant/s spread's they will be caught with pants down.

All of this is about money for the big Thai medical company, maybe they could not broker a deal with Pfizer or sputnik, Astra is hard to handle and needs special fridges, stupid for Thailand to go for this.

I did hear some time ago that Thailand would vaccinate expats free and so they should, but then how they define you as qualifying could be tricky.

Anyhow watch the news in the next few days I predict that Thailand will be reverting to Plan B, if it thinks it will be able to supply Astra dud vaccine at 61 million doses.

17 hours ago, chasboyuk said:

I know but this is meant to be local transport, encourage the public to use instead of the car.
Trains in the UK are shockingly expensive especially for the lack of service u get. 

Have they been privatised, that usually sends prices through the roof, power in Nz went from 4 cents a unit to near 60 with privatisation, although it was going to create competition and be good for you. 

8 hours ago, chilly07 said:

Legal casinos only means better organised mafia!

Yes, legalized mafia.