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5 hours ago, KhunLA said:
Nah, though did point out the battery difference (module replacement). Styling won her over.
For others ... MG ZS back on sale, and still includes free wall charger installation. Feeling the heat from BYD. So now, if ours gets totaled or stolen, when get a new one + change in the pocket, since insured for 900k. OK, maybe just a new replacement.
Someone want to tell me again about price depreciation, as seems to be working in our favor ...
And no, we have no desire to ever sell our ZS.
A bit deceptive, as showing the X model, not the D model, which is the one at the 'starting price'. D not available in red, and doesn't have roof rails.
I had a deposit down on a ZS EV in 2019 before the launch day. EVs were expensive in those days, pleased to see that prices are becoming more affordable all the time
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2025 BYD Shark plug-in hybrid truck coming to Australia this year so if it’s a RHD it might be coming to Thailand as well.
It claims fuel consumption of 7.5 litres per 100km – similar to a four-cylinder diesel – in hybrid mode, and up to 100km of driving range on electric propulsion alone, but more power, and quicker acceleration than a twin-turbo petrol V6 Ford Ranger Raptor.The Shark is larger than a Ford Ranger or Toyota HiLux – but smaller than a Ford F-150
The Shark is fitted with a relatively small 1.5-litre turbocharged petrol engine, but it is paired with two electric motors – divided between front and rear axles – for a combined power output of "more than" 316kW.
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1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:migrated from an ICEV to a PHEV and an EV.
dittoI skipped the self-charging step
What Toyota didn’t realize was that a self-charging car actually looks like this:
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61 is major underestimate. I am sure many deaths are simple recorded as “heart attack” or similar.
In our village alone we have had one death and one in ICU
The guy in ICU collapsed while fishing in a pond he was pulled out before drowning. I am sure if he had died the death would have been recorded as drowning and heat would not have been listed as a contributing factor.
The death was an old guy burning his field who collapsed due to the heat ending up getting burnt to death
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On 5/11/2024 at 7:55 AM, Bandersnatch said:
Toyota is still listing the bZ4X on the Thailand website, but the click through to select a dealer button is missing. Do they want to sell this car or not?
Toyota will stop using its 'old' hybrid tech and switch to new BYD systems.
This good news as Toyota was using nickel metal-hydride (NiMH) batteries for it's hybrids
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I see we have been graced with the presence of yet another Failure
2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:Lots catching on fire.
No evidence provided to support this statement making it worthlessFail!
2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:Not very good for the environment.
Again no evidence providedFail again!
“This is a discussion about EVs available or coming to Thailand“
Fail!
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25 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
It's known as post purchase rationalisation.
That might be true for people who own one car at a time and have to manage their buyers regret until they can afford to change their mistake purchase.
You clearly don’t much about @JBChiangRai and the cars he has owned.
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49 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:Most owners of the BYD Seal have probably owned a Camry or Accord, I have owned both, the Seal is a far superior car, there is no comparison in driver appeal.
This is a very important post in my opinion. It is very difficult to argue with someone who has owned and lived with all the cars being compared in a segment.
EV Haters love to criticize EVs and EV owners, why is that you never see EV owners hanging out on Diesel Truck threads?
They probably have better things to do with their time than spewing angry vitriol.
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Toyota is still listing the bZ4X on the Thailand website, but the click through to select a dealer button is missing. Do they want to sell this car or not?
bZ4X: ฿1,836,000
218 horsepower (PS)
maximum torque 337
0-100kph 6.9 seconds
Battery 64kWh usable
BYD Seal AWD: ฿1,549,000
530 horsepower (PS)
maximum torque 670
0-100kph 3.8 seconds
Battery 82.5kWh usable
Turns out I’m not the only one having trouble trying to buy a Toyota EV:
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32 minutes ago, dinsdale said:
How about the Chinese ones???????? As for paying 2-4 mil for a used Tesla you'd have to be crazy. 4 mil can get you a pretty good house built upcountry.Of course if it's status and virtue signalling then I understand.
I am done doing your research for you.
You said:
“As for resale values say goodbye to your Baht”
Your claim to be an expert on used EVs in Thailand has turned out to be
”ignorance signalling” again
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41 minutes ago, dinsdale said:
Now you can show me the 2nd hand EV market prices in Thailand.
Thought you were an expert on used EVs in Thailand!
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11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
Hybrid Camry
1 kWh battery does not an EV make.
12 minutes ago, JonnyF said:My sister in law has a full EV car. She likes to do trips up to and around Chiang Mai, Pai, Mae Hong son etc. Keeps moaning about having to plan her routes around the charging stations and then having to wait when she gets there
No details provided about what car
I have a 600km range which is long enough for most trip. I own an MG and a BYD that have dealerships in practically every province. You can book ahead. I can add 350km of range in 20 minutes.
22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:Depends on the market. In the UK
Here in Thailand The seal is cheaper than the Camry.
23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:Most people do not have solar panels and many do not even have somewhere to install a normal charger
Agreed most people don’t solar but many EV owners here in Thailand are getting them as they are so cheap now.
TOU overnight electricity is half price.
Most people in Thailand live in detached houses so can install a wall charger which is free with most EVs here including installation.
31 minutes ago, JonnyF said:Insurance and depreciation are far more significant expenses than servicing and road tax. 20% harder on tyres etc
My MG’s insurance has been comparable to my previous ICE cars will be posting my first BYDs insurance quote in six months on the EVs in Thailand Discussion.
With 8 years warranty and free servicing depreciation is not really a consideration after that.
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16 minutes ago, dinsdale said:As for re-sale values say goodbye to your Baht.
more “ignorance signaling”Doesn’t own an EV but claims to be an expert on the second hand EV market in Thailand.
Doesn’t bother to post any evidence to backup his claims
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22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
All that money and inconvenience, there has to be some benefits.
Typical, doesn’t own an EV and doesn’t know anything about them.
“Ignorance signaling”I own a D segment Saloon/Sedan EV and it’s cheaper than any ice car in the segment.
Owned it for 6 months and apart from some short test charges in the first week it has been charged at home from solar. So haven’t had to go out of my way to fill up.
It comes with 8 years of free servicing and very cheap road tax. All very inexpensive and convenient.
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42 minutes ago, dinsdale said:
Indeed. It was put down to a wiring issue whilst recharging. Guess that would come under a quality issue.
BYD provided the owner with new replacement car as they were keen to take the car away for testing.
Over 20,000 Atto 3s have been sold in Thailand as this is the only case of a 12v fire.
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2 minutes ago, Celsius said:
Where is Apple car announced 10 years ago
Making EVs is apparently more difficult than making phones.
Might explain why legacy auto makers are making such a hash of it.
”The project had reportedly cost the company over $1 billion per year”
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22 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:
Never trust any video that is that low resolution. You are easily fooled (which explains how you believe any anti-EV rubbish that gets posted). Fact check:
Thanks for this.
Why do we have to FactCheck everything that the AntiEvers post? Because it’s either unsubstantiated or BS
as @mistral53 reminded us on page 213
“Don’t feed the Trolls”
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1 hour ago, liddelljohn said:
EVs are expensive crap tech soon to be replace with HYSE ICE and Fuel cells .
Can’t get your brain around EVs or the fact that H2 is never going to be the future.
Can’t construct an argument because you fail to support it with any evidence
https://insideevs.com/news/716100/us-hydrogen-car-sales-2024q1/
What they don’t tell you about H2 (Source Mirai Club YT)
How much range for $180?
My EV can drive that 348 miles (560km) for free from my home solar.
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1 hour ago, Hellfire said:It only means that the Thais (mostly naive people not interested in reading books and learning from the past) are more susceptible to the tech hype than the Europeans (mostly interested in history and greedy). Just give them some more time.
So your theory is that Thais are naive, uneducated and susceptible to tech hype.My theory is that EVs are cheaper here in Thailand than in Europe so represent better value for money.
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23 hours ago, Pib said:
This six and half minute video gives a overview/summary of the UBS report.
Thanks @Pib this is an excellent short and sweet summary.
I am surprised nobody has commented. Maybe they are stunned into silence 🤐
I own a BYD Seal Performance and for the money it’s the best car I’ve ever driven.
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37 minutes ago, dinsdale said:
China Obsever is not anti China it's anti CCP
So you admit it’s not impartial.39 minutes ago, dinsdale said:Are you saying the footage in this YT video is fake?
The car looks like no BYD full EV I know, certainly nothing being imported to Thailand, what model is it?
Do you have the same story published by a reputable source?
40 minutes ago, dinsdale said:tomazbodner has shown otherwise
No he hasn’t see my reply to him41 minutes ago, dinsdale said:What about this story....
Did you read it? There was a reference to electric motorbikes might possibly have been responsible. We are discussing Electric Cars here. I have never said cheap electric bikes, scooters, skateboards etc are safe.-
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1 hour ago, tomazbodner said:That was just to set record straight. Personally, I like BYD Seal... a lot.
This case is well know in the EV community. It was a small electrical fire not a traction battery fire.
A battery fire in an EV happens under the car.
An electrical fire happens under the bonnet.
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42 minutes ago, dinsdale said:An interesting video is linked but here's a screen shot of BYD quality.
China Observer is a notorious Anti China channel. No sensible person would rely on it for information about EVs available here in Thailand.Unlike you I own a BYD EV and the quality is excellent. I am also on several Thai BYD groups and can confirm there has not been one single BYD explosion or significant fire here.
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52 minutes ago, dinsdale said:Who cares. What's the point. What about the more you do 0 to 100 in 4 seconds the less range you get and charging will be needed sooner with charging for most people with EV's requiring fossil fuels to make the electricity.
Many EV owners on AN make some or in my case all of their EV power from solar. It is very easy to do here here in Sunny Thailand that’s why I don’t have a grid connection.-
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Electric Vehicles in Thailand
in Thailand Motor Discussion
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The car is a Neta U which is not sold in Thailand.
So yet another
post from the illiterate FFFF (Fossil Fuel Fanatics)
The title of this discussion is "EVs in Thailand"