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I’ve test driven both and my opinion of the MG 4 is that it’s a great little family hatchback. A little slow off the line, but fine once it’s going. It’s practical and great value for money. So why did I order a Seal Premium at twice the price, because it feels like twice the car. It is luxurious and polished and a joy to drive. If you want a car that gets the job done competently, then go for the MG4, but if you want a car that brings a smile to your face every time you drive it, then buy a Seal.

"EVs don't work for people who live in apartment buildings - how are they going to charge?" You will certainly have seen statements like this, but it's nice to see the that condos in Thailand are now being built with EV charging built in.

Did you find a sun blind for the glass roof? My sales girl said it's included.

Didn’t know that

First year is free

might need to change the name of this discussion to “Seal Club Thailand” 🦭 How many posters here have ordered Seals?

Didn't know you'd ordered a Seal Premium - did I miss the announcement? or was that it? Congratulations. What did you think of the test drive? What colour did you order?

Without the CO2 driven greenhouse effect this planet would be a lifeless ball of ice. "warmer climates are better than colder climates" but you can have too much of a good thing 40 ° C in the UK like we had this year is a challenge with houses designed temperate conditions. What will Thailand be like when 50 ° C is the norm? US sets new record for billion-dollar climate disasters in single year https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/11/us-record-billion-dollar-climate-disasters

Can't talk for all EVs but for mine the charging port locks during charging.

Gave up waiting for you to support this statement. They were used in the nickel-metal hydride batteries used by early hybrids, but rare earths are not used in lithium ion batteries. 'rare-earth' is a misnomer because they are not actually scarce, although historically it took a long time to isolate these elements. rare-earth elements are technically relatively plentiful in the entire Earth's crust (cerium being the 25th-most-abundant element at 68 parts per million, more abundant than copper Ce and La are important as catalysts, and are used for petroleum refining and as diesel additives https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_element The moral here is to check what you write before you write it or get called out on it.

BYD Seal Premium (LR RWD)

If you don't drive an EV then you probably don't even notice them. Many fuel stations have them. Many shopping centers will have several. Every MG and BYD dealership that you drive by has them. Thailand is currently in a honeymoon period when there are lots of chargers and not many people wanting to use them. The only time I have seen chargers busy is when the whole of Thailand decides to take to the roads at the same time. My new EV has an 82.56kWh usable battery capacity. As it has Lithium Iron Phosphate battery chemistry it is fine to leave it at a 100% state of charge. It has 650km range and a 150kW charging speed meaning that it can add nearly 400km range in 20 minutes. Unless I am travelling more than 650km I will charge at home.

I lived in Bangkok for 5 years and never considered the air quality “very good” .

I ordered the Seal Premium LR RWD. Like you I wanted LFP but I also wanted V2L, which I was hoping would appear in the Highland Model 3. When it didn’t my mind was made up. My wife thinks the lack of indicator stalks and drive selector on the screen is a dealbreaker.

You do realize that ICE vehicles are responsible for much of the pollution in our cities. Bangkok was ranked as the world’s 10th-most polluted city on Friday, according to IQAir, a Swiss-based air quality technology company, the recent spike in pollution, even before the peak of the burning season. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-09/thailand-targets-30-electric-car-production-to-tackle-pollution

I for one was very excited when Tesla announced they were going to be selling EVs in Thailand. I was shocked at the price they chose to sell them at - nearly 40% more than in other RHD markets like Australia. Tesla has been cutting prices around the world in the run up the the Highland Model 3 launch, but not in Thailand. In 12 months they didn't cut prices once and then only days after the dramatic sales figures for the BYD Seal. As I have posted above. Tesla Charging is available in Korat, Pattaya and BKK. They have been put to shame by MG and BYD that have rolled out showrooms each with DC and AC charging. The sales figures speak for themselves:

You haven't bothered to read any other posts in this thread, just dropped in to deposit your pearls of wisdom 💩

You didn't see my profile picture did you

every question you ask further demonstrates your ignorance of solar. Go back and look at the graph I posted previously and come back when you understand the meaning of the term curtailment. You have demonstrated that you can’t manage simple arithmetic.

You asked how many m2 of solar I had not understanding that panels have different Wattage. I have 20kW of solar so can produce a maximum of 20kWh per hour. The max range per KWh is 8km - you work it out you need the practice “The Laws of Physics” “Universal Facts” 😂

waiting for the cathode chemical formula that has one of the rare earth elements I listed above chop chop

Can you please post which Cathode Battery chemistries require Rare Earth Elements? To get you started this is mine FeLiO4P Lithium iron phosphate.

Believe it or not these problems are being solved. some pictures for you

Currently Crypto mining uses more energy than EV charging which is mostly done at night at times of low demand or like me from solar in the middle of the day. My EV has bi-directional charging so I could feed back to the grid at times of peak demand, when Thailand allows it.

500,942 vehicles sold of which 10.05% EVs = 50,000 EVs = 1 charger for every 10 EVs - not very good at sums at school? 🙄 I think you meant for home charging (at Lower tariff) with restricted hours UK : Currently in Thailand: You can drive more than 650km without stopping for a pee? So you must have a urinary catheter bag. Finally we agree on something EVs are clearly not for you. Stick with your old diesel it will probably outlast you.