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Not economic. When I make power from my solar system to put in my electric car there is some small efficiency loss due to the inversion process, but over 90% of the energy ends up in my car. With current electrolyzers, green hydrogen's efficiency is around 30%, which means 70% of the renewable energy put into producing green hydrogen is lost across the full cycle of production and use. Good luck with Hydrogen in Thailand. Where are you going to buy your Hydrogen car - none for sale here. Toyota keeps making promises about it's Mirai but you can't buy it here. Then where will you fill it up? Thailand has no public H2 filling stations. I make power for my electric car from my home solar system - try making H2 at home. Hydrogen is the fuel of the future and always will be

In this discussion I have seen 3 people who have both solar and an EV, there maybe be more. I already said I have not seen a Thai study so can’t give you an exact % Most people get solar to power their house first, but in my graph above it should quite clear that the excess solar is “free power” and in my case it is curtailed.

Based on comments in the EVs in Thailand discussion, many start with solar then get an EV. I am also a member of number of Thai EV groups and hear similar comments. I am not aware of any studies on the subject here in Thailand, but once people get solar and realise the massive surplus of energy that is generated in the middle of the day it really is a only common sense to consider an EV you can drive for free. Here is a graph of power generation from one of my inverters.

A guy who doesn’t own an EV telling those of us who do that there are no EV chargers in Thailand. If you look closely at the map you will even see my house listed as a charging station.

If you actually knew anything about EVs you would know that battery chemistry is changing. The 2 biggest EV manufactures are BYD - 100% lithium iron phosphate batteries (LFP) - and Tesla whose best selling models by far are the standard range model 3 & Y that now mostly use lithium iron phosphate (LFP). Ford has also moved to LFP. LFP are far safer than Li Ion My home batteries and new EV have LFP

No evidence for that (again) Thanks to @Georgealbert for the link https://www.bedsfire.gov.uk/news/london-luton-airport-car-park-fire Thanks

“Hitting a bump in the road” What a ridiculous thing to say. Here is a video of my EV being crash tested (twice) and the battery being tested afterwards.

My new EV is a saloon (sedan) and weighs less than the average pickup that most people seem to drive here. If you were serious about car park problems you would also call to ban pickup trucks - good luck with that.

Currently Thailand’s feed-in credit for solar is a flat rate and not time (demand based) When PEA and MEA get serious about this problem they will call on prosumers like myself. I have 36 kWh of home batteries and a new EV with 82.5 kWh and bi-directional charging. I would be happy to feedback to my local grid here in Thailand if there were incentives to do so. This is already happening around the world.

In Thailand peak demand for electricity is during the day. There is excess supply at night that is why Thailand has cheap TOU rates overnight when most people without solar will charge.

These problems are being solved all around the world. In Norway 80% of new cars purchased last year were electric. You would know this if you had bothered to do some research before giving the rest of us the job of fact checking everything you say.

You clearly don’t know how to read a graph! The calculus used by Volvo says the results depend in large measure on the source of electricity its customers use to charge their vehicles and the 2 year old report said that the grid is greening all the time, so it’s findings are already out of date. In my case I drive my EVs using excess power produced from my home solar. Many EV owners here in Thailand have solar. The report said that internal combustion technology has had over a century to get where it is today. EV technology, on the other hand, is still in its infancy. Improvements in battery technology are happening almost daily. Battery recycling operations are ramping up around the world, which will significantly reduce the need to mine lithium and other natural resources, like nickel and cobalt, that are used to make today’s lithium-ion batteries. The report is not without it’s critics, It claims part of the reason its electric cars create more emissions in the production phase is because they use more aluminum, yet the charts that accompany the report show the gasoline-powered XC40 has an aluminum content of 34%, while the XC40 Recharge uses 30% aluminum and the C40 Recharge 29%.

https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/model/seal/overview

My Thai Wife was hoping we would buy a BMW iX1 (still hasn’t arrived in Thailand) She didn’t feel that the spartan interior of Teslas really looked like luxury. I wasn’t impressed with it’s 64 kWh Li-ion battery and it’s expected high price, but we did end up watching a number of videos of German EVs. This guy does great reviews and he really knows his luxury cars.

Thanks @Pib looking forward to your review before I shell out the big bucks.

You’re in the wrong discussion, this is EVs in Thailand.

Found you ????

Sad I know, but yes I have. I downloaded the PDF of the english language version of the European Seal, which is now sitting in my dropbox. The cars are quite complex so it is a good idea. Unlike Atto 3 owners, there are not too many helpful guides to the seal on YouTube. Perhaps I’ll have to make one.

Thanks for the tip. I am a member of the MGEVForum https://www.mgevs.com/ and you regularly hear discussions about what boat your car is on and people track the boat from China to the UK.

Jimmy Patronis quoted in the video is technically Florida’s state fire marshal, but he’s not a fireman he is a restaurant owner and now a Republican politician telling lies about EVs. The State Fire Marshal’s office shared a bulletin by the National Fire Protection Association about how to handle submerged hybrid and electric vehicles. In the bulletin, it plainly says: “Submersion in water (especially salt water) can damage low and high voltage components. Although not a common occurrence, this could result in an electrical short and potential fire once the vehicle is no longer submerged.”

Great news, I’m still in the vagueness stage of maybe this month or next. I heard that BYD have delayed the launch of the Seal in Australia, maybe it’s a stock issue.

Not sure if you’ve seen the video @Pib was discussing but it was about installing a smart WiFi breaker. You can setup various routines in the Tuya app including automatic switching off.

My Grid connection is switched off so if I am charging the car from solar and if it starts to rain, I might not know as my house is basically a bunker. Then we are draining the house batteries into the car. If the house batteries get down to 60% before I realise we might not have enough battery for the rest of the day and the night. When the seal arrives I will feed V2L into my inverters to power the load (run the house) not charge the batteries for a few hours. Then I will have fewer hours to run the house from home batteries. Hope that is clear. I have investigated solar diverter EV chargers like myenergi zappi they claim to only charge your EV with excess solar power, but they determine that by monitoring exported power via a CT clamp. Unfortunately they don’t work in off-grid situations like mine.

I agree. I started my Channel https://www.youtube.com/EcoHouseThailand as an extension of my Blog: https://EcoHouseThailand.com Neither are monetized and I only post when I think I have something to say that perhaps hasn’t been said before or could be of value to others. Over the years they had led me into conversations with many foreigners wanting to do eco builds, install solar or get an EV in Thailand.

“Shut the door too hard in an EV and the battery catches fire” There are a number of excellent Lithium Iron Phosphate battery cars available for sale now in Thailand: Any BYD, MG4, RWD Teslas any more I missed?