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1 hour ago, macahoom said:
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
How much do you think the Seal(s) will cost in Thailand?
I don’t know how much the Seal will cost in Thailand. We can’t use the price in China as it’s LHD and the Chinese market is super competitive right now.
So my best guess is that the BYD Seal will cost more than the Atto 3 in Thailand as it is the Atto 4. BYD has been undercutting Tesla on price so we can expect that the Seal to be cheaper than the model 3 especially as Tesla doesn’t get any government subsidies.
In conclusion I think the Hong Kong prices won’t be far off what the cost will be in Thailand. What we do know for sure is the price difference for each Seal model.
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BYD reveals electric Seal pricing in key right hand drive market
BYD has launched its electric sedan in one of the first right-hand-drive (RHD) markets in Hong Kong
Standard Range Dynamic – $HK309,000 (฿1,378,000)
Extended Range Premium – $HK347,000 (฿1,548,000)
AWD Performance – $HK376,000 (฿1,677,000)
The Standard Range Dynamic 61.4 kWh 450 km of WLTP range
v Tesla Model 3 RWD 60 kWh 491 km of WLTP range
Extended Range Premium 82.5 kWh 500km of WLTP range
AWD Performance model dual-motor 82.5 kWh
0-100 km/h in 3.8 seconds with “3.8S” badge
https://thedriven.io/2023/08/29/byd-reveals-electric-seal-pricing-in-key-right-hand-drive-market/
These prices seem to fit with the price of the Atto 3 and Tesla Model 3 in Thailand
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On 7/4/2023 at 6:30 AM, Bandersnatch said:
AION Goes Global With Thailand Overseas Debut
Aion Hyper GT apparently has the lowest drag coefficient of any production car in the world with a CD of 0.197. It starts at $30,600 in China.
You can get it with a 70.1kWh 2 minute swappable LFP battery with 600km CLTC range
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2 hours ago, Hummin said:Great, same I was thinking would do. How does it work? And how long did you have it in use? Reliable and quality Wise?
In daylight ( doesn’t need bright sun) the solar panel powers the electricity motor which turns a chain drive to turn the paddles.
I leave in running.
quality issues. The supplied chain drive stretched and ended up jumping the sprocket. After adjusting it a few times I swapped the chain for a stainless heavy duty one.
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29 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
Woke madness in action!
Preventing lung cancer is woke?
You don't need to buy an EV
The charge applies to gasoline cars generally first registered before 2006 and diesel cars registered before October 2015.
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If you drive an older, polluting car anywhere in London, starting today you’ll have to pay a princely charge of £12.50 ($15.70) per day.
In 2019, the British capital became the first city in the world to introduce a round-the-clock Ultra Low Emission Zone, inside which cars and other vehicles have to meet tough emissions standards or face a toll.
That followed the implementation of road pricing in 2003 aimed at reducing congestion in central London.
The tolls and fines fund a scrappage program - grants of up to £2,000 ($2,517) to every Londoner with a car or motorcycle that doesn’t comply with ULEZ standards.
The ULEZ was expanded in 2021 and today it is widened again, this time to cover the city’s outer boroughs and suburbs.
The charge applies 24/7 to gasoline cars generally first registered before 2006 and diesel cars registered before October 2015.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/28/cars/ulez-expansion-london-vehicle-emissions/index.html
The CDC have said that diesel exhaust, and other air pollution are a high cause of lung cancer in non smokers after secondhand smoke and Radon gas
https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/lung/nonsmokers/index.htm
A ULEZ should be introduced in Thai cities like Bangkok if people were given enough notice and financial support together with an increased investment public transport. Do you agree?
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3 hours ago, KhunLA said:
If budget is that low, then suffer with the Celerio
Valid point, but I think you can rule out the manual transmission (MT) Celerio for a like for like comparison. If assembled in Thailand with the Government subsidy it would be no contest.
I bought my wife a new Suzuki Swift as her first car - a truly horrible car to drive IMHO. She said she would have chosen the Volt City EV over the swift if she had had the choice.
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Popped into my local Robinson to see a couple of cheap and cheerful EVs.
Small on the outside and roomy on the inside.
The Wuling Air EV is based on the China’s best selling EV the the Wuling mini EV. Wuling is a joint venture between SIAC motors that owns MG and General Motors. They are assembled in Indonesia and so won’t be getting any government incentives.
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As previously posted GAC Aion, China’s third-largest EV maker plans to build a factory in Thailand to serve the Asean market.
On August 21, GAC Aion's first exported vehicles, 100 units of the Aion Y Plus, were loaded onto a ship at Guangzhou's Nansha Port and began shipping to Thailand's Port of Laem Chabang, the company announced today.
The Aion Y Plus vehicles are GAC Aion's right-hand drive version built specifically for the Thai market and have been certified by local transportation authorities, according to the company.
Aion did not announce prices for the right-hand drive edition of Y Plus in Thailand. The pure electric sport-utility vehicle starts at 119,800 yuan (฿576,000) in China
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I have stopped answering questions until I've checked what others have written.
Nothing to add - good job all.
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5 hours ago, macahoom said:
I'd be very interested to hear more from you when you power your house using the car. I'm thinking of doing the same and the dolphin extended range model seems ideal with its big battery.
I made a video about integrating V2L with a home solar inverter. They are designed to accept AC power inputs from the grid or a generator.
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1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:
surprised he didn’t mention the pink interior, hopefully there are other colour choices
Definitely prefer the blue
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BYD Seagull an affordable mini electric car, coming to Thailand soon. Starts at $10,000 in China.
Good review video just surprised he didn’t mention the pink interior, hopefully there are other colour choices
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Are you off-grid or can you use PEA to top up your solar system?
I installed an energy monitor which shows me energy usage in real time. So I can switch on an air con and see how much power is being used.
I made a video about how it works
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1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:
I went and tried the Neta... no thanks... I have had golf carts that were bigger, more comfortable, and rode better.
Great value car, but not on my shortlist either.
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4 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:
The MG does not meet the first requirement... be the same price... I have a MG HS and it is great
Agreed the MG HS is a great car and great value for money. The PHEV version IMHO is even better
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4 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:
You still have a drive belt
My mistake, I didn’t know the click had a belt drive.
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Currently all Tesla cars for China’s domestic market, S.E.A. and Aus/NZ come from Giga Shanghai where the vast majority of cars produced are LFP powered standard range model Ys and 3s - no Nickel required. LFP is soon to be replaced with CATL’s even more efficient M3P chemistry - again no Nickel.
I am wondering how important Nickel is going to going to be in the Tesla’s future plans. Nickel prices in 2023 have been between $20,000 - $30,000/T
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Tesla to build battery factory in Indonesia
“Tesla is planning to build a factory in Indonesia to produce battery materials, according to a senior politician. An announcement is expected to be made in the coming months. However, there will probably not be a Tesla vehicle plant in the country for the time being.”
https://www.electrive.com/2023/08/15/tesla-to-build-battery-factory-in-indonesia/
When Tesla was looking for a location for a vehicle plant in S.E.A. Thailand was hopeful that it would be chosen, but Indonesia with it’s rich Nickel resources seemed to beat out Thailand. However, after years of tough negotiations and some premature announcements from Indonesian officials it seems no location has been chosen yet.
Maybe Tesla will decide to follow a number of Chinese EV manufacturers and set up a vehicle plant in Thailand after all.
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8 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:
You can always replace your lead acid battery with a lithium Ion battery... it's easy
ok - I'll give you that one, can you put the engine in the hub so I don't need a chain?
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14 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:
but over priced for what value that you get
Again with the unsupported statements
Your last one was
3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:They have to be just as cheap 2. they have to be just as reliable
Two things the EV makers have failed at up to now
How was your test drive in the Neta V? I would be interested in your informed opinion.
18 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:I am 6'4" and 230lbs
How about a station wagon?
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Thinking of buying a Tesla Model 3? Don’t!
Better to wait for the all new Model 3 Highland. Rumors are circulating that Tesla is planning to rev up the base battery of its Model 3 from a 60 kWh to a 66 kWh battery pack, promising a 10% boost to the EV's driving range. The upgraded battery is reportedly the result of a collaboration with CATL, utilizing their brand new M3P lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery packs.
It’s claimed that the Shanghai factory has already stopped making the old model and sales of the far cheaper to manufacture project highland will start in October.
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The loss of the Build Your Dreams Logo and the fish scales I will gladly live without, but no karaoke! ????