Bandersnatch

4 hours ago, vinny41 said:

The Japanese auto market is one of the fastest-growing major markets globally. In H1 2023, passenger car sales in Japan grew by 27% YoY, according to the latest research from Counterpoint’s Global Passenger Vehicle Model Sales Tracker. Toyota held the top position in the domestic market, boasting a 50% share, followed by Suzuki and the Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi Alliance. Japanese auto OEMs, namely Toyota, Honda, Suzuki, Subaru, Mazda, and the Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi Alliance, collectively accounted for more than 90% of passenger vehicle sales in the country. Japan is the second country, after the US, where Chinese automotive companies have failed to make significant inroads. In 2023, BYD Auto, a Chinese auto OEM introduced its Atto 3 EV model in the Japanese market and only managed to sell around 1,000 units. 

https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights_category/press-releases/

The biggest car market in the world is China by comparison the Japanese market doesn't compare. 

Japanese Automakers Face Major Sales Crisis Nissan's sales fell by 45.8% in China last quarter while those at Honda and Mazda dropped by 38.2% and 66.5% respectively

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/05/japanese-automakers-struggle-in-china-as-local-ev-manufacturers-dominate-market/

14 hours ago, Pib said:

The voice command system (a.k.a., Hi BYD) really works great and greatly reduces the need to actually tap the screen to change some setting, switch to different functions/apps, etc.  

Thanks for the update  - please keep them coming 

Any chance we could compile a list of Hi (Hey) BYD phrases that BYDs recognise (Increase the regeneration level - doesn't seem to work)

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

BYD outsold Tesla nearly 10 to 1 last month in Thailand.

 

I see that trend continuing, I wouldn’t want to be holding Tesla shares now.

"In terms of total vehicles sold in Thailand, BYD has surpassed four smaller Japanese competitors, namely Nissan, Mitsubishi Motors, Mazda and Suzuki"

https://asiatimes.com/2023/10/byd-blowing-by-japan-for-thailands-ev-market/

3 hours ago, macahoom said:

Just drove my Seal Performance AWD the 15 kms home from the dealership.

 

My initial impression: Wow! Better than I could have ever imagined. It feels like a million dollars. I’m going to follow BYD’s recommendation and take it easy for the first 2000 kms, so it’ll be a while before I can run it through its paces.

 

As for the colour: BYD call it Velocity Blue. It’s a bit of a stretch to call it anything blue. I would describe it as a mixture of blue, violet, purple and grey; it changes colour depending on the ambient light. Certainly not flamboyant; quite restrained.

 

The colour is unusual, for sure. Luckily I like it, as it was not at all what I was expecting.

Great to hear, please keep the reports coming e.g. was there a sun shield for the glass roof?

We paid our deposit for a White Seal Premium on 29th September (The price was announced at 6pm on 28th September) Seem to be plenty of performance models available  - discussed with the wife if we haven't heard anything by the end of this month, we will ask if we get a AWD any quicker 

1 minute ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I think I will see if some tape around the speaker to stop it being annoying inside the car, failing that will unplug it.

Recently was in a car park when an Atto 3 was cruising looking for a space, it certainly got some strange looks as the sound is loud outside ( as it should be I suppose ) , I personally don’t need the attention .

 

A selection of normal sounds would have been more accepted I think, just a beeping sound like a reversing truck would make more sense.

My MG makes a unintrusive sound like a spaceship which is perfectly acceptable to me. Not sure if it's a generated sound or a slight whine from the electric motor, but ice cream van sound  - really

1 hour ago, Pib said:

From quickly watching the first video I noticed at about the 27:40 point in the video the Seal has a healthy spaceship sound (i.e., the pedestrian & soi dog warning sound).  Gosh, I understand the intent of the sound but both the wife and I find that sound to be annoying. I guess all the BYD models have that sound below 30KmH unless the little sound box behind the radiator gets unplugged not that I would ever do that. 

If the Thai version is the same as the EU version, I will be selecting the "Ice Cream Van" jingle and see how many kiddies come running at the sound 😇

13 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Scots couple rage after being handed £17k bill from Tesla for 'driving in rain'

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-couple-rage-after-being-31194155

 

Maybe they have a different type or rain In Scotland compared to Thailand

This story is only a couple of weeks old. In other versions Tesla is reporting to be investigating the incident - maybe we can reserve passing judgment until we have all the facts (might be a challenge for some)

31 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Electric train users get goosebumps after listening to this. Rats chewed through the battery. Repair cost 600,000 baht.

https://www.khaosod.co.th/special-stories/news_7932411

 

Some Brands use Iron, aluminium, carbon fibre for their battery covers this brand uses plastic

this type of fault isn't covered by the warranty so owner either pays or claims from insurance

I have translated the article you posted and it makes no mention of the vehicle from which it comes. It does say that 99% of EV batteries do not have plastic covers.

sounds like a nonsense story to me

My battery is structural and is enclosed in Aluminum.

16 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

sorry for asking, but I couldn't find it in the broschure.

is it 80% and not 70% ... like many other brands ... ?

 

You could be right  - I seen online reviews saying 80% but I can't verify that information on the Thai official site. The Atto3 is quoted at 8 years/160,000 kilometers
SOH ≥70%

23 hours ago, motdaeng said:

if you would like to have some basic knowledge about the byd seal,

have take a look at these videos (available only in thai):

 

https://youtu.be/yGtAORSKVjQ?si=EcimcGwKFeCdJNcg

 

https://youtu.be/6hvm9vbKuqw?si=0teSB5PKrlXVjlU7

 

Sorry for delay in responding, but needed to book an appointment with Mrs Bander to watch together. Excellent videos thanks for posting 🙏

BYD Seal has received a five-star rating from ANCAP

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/byd-seal-earns-five-star-ancap-rating

On 10/20/2023 at 9:55 AM, Bandersnatch said:

Honda  e:Ny1 (Stupid Name) (Lowercase e colon Capital N Lowercase y) much like the Toyota bZ4X (Lowercase b Capital Z Capital X)

£44,100 (฿1,948,925)  to £47,195 (฿2,085,452) Actual price in Thailand not yet released

Based on the HRV platform 

No Durian storage (Frunk) 

78kW charging 🤣

0-62 mph: 7.6 seconds

62kWh Lithium-ion Battery usable

 

Honda WTF Were You Thinking?! - great title to the video

 

 

@josephbloggs This my thoughts 

15 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

you could get an electrician to run cable from a small consumer unit via a breaker to the post where the meter will be installed and PEA will attach it to their meter

@Andrew Dwyer 

Have you checked with your local PEA office that they will allow you to have a second meter as a TOU? 
 

41 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

1) What does BYD supply ( I suspect charger and 40A breaker only ).

MG supplied just the wall charger. The installer supplied the breaker box and cables back to my closest consumer unit in my mech room

41 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

2) What do the BYD installation crew actually install as I have read for a nominal fee (9k) they complete installation ??, also installation can be outsourced for around 20k ?

Usually 15m of cable back to a source of electricity consumer unit for me - TOU meter for you. You pay extra for longer cable or different spec. The installer will come and do a site survey before the installation 

41 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

3) When charger installation finished and PEA return to fit TOU meter do they make the cabling from meter to distribution box or should that be readily available from charger install.

( seen 15m cable is free and any longer is charged but don’t know who’s responsibility this falls under )

You are responsible for cable from the meter to the house. Maybe the BYD installer could do it or you could get an electrician to run cable from a small consumer unit via a breaker to the post where the meter will be installed and PEA will attach it to their meter.

3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I saw a new Bz4x in Chiang Mai yesterday, I can’t imagine anyone buying that either.

 

(I think that’s what they call it)

You did that on purpose.  you know it’s called the bZ4X 

Toyota get very upset when you get the name wrong 

30 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

That price looks absolutely ludicrous now (actually it always did).

You’re not wrong there 

20 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Is the Leaf still available?

apparently so

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

I hope you tell him to shop around, MGs, BYDs, GWM ... as the Leaf would be the last EV I'd consider.

Good point the CHAdeMO charging standard is not long for this world.

28 minutes ago, matchar said:

How does it compare to your MG 4? Considering it's what, nearly twice the price?

I’ve test driven both and my opinion of the MG 4 is that it’s a great little family hatchback. A little slow off the line, but fine once it’s going. It’s practical and great value for money.

So why did I order a Seal Premium at twice the price, because it feels like twice the car. It is luxurious and polished and a joy to drive. If you want a car that gets the job done competently, then go for the MG4, but if you want a car that brings a smile to your face every time you drive it, then buy a Seal.

"EVs don't work for people who live in apartment buildings - how are they going to charge?" 

You will certainly have seen statements like this, but it's nice to see the that condos in Thailand are now being built with EV charging built in.