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31 minutes ago, rhodie said:

Honda Click always breaking down??? Pffft.  You have got to be joking. Arguably the most reliable bike on the planet.

As ICE motorbikes go yes the Honda Click is very reliable, that’s the reason I bought it, but to say it’s the most reliable bike on the planet shows you are not up to date with developments.

Our new electric bike has a sealed hub motor, that requires no maintenance. There is no chain to lubricate, adjust or replace as drive happens at the rear wheel. There is no tiny 12v lead acid battery to start the motor and run flat if the bike is not used for a couple of weeks, like happens to our click. The battery on the electric bike is Lithium Ion with far more capacity.

33 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Two takeaways... 1.  They have to be just as cheap  2. they have to be just as reliable

 

Two things the EV makers have failed at up to now... 

You clearly don’t drive an EV or you would know that’s not true. I have driven an EV in Thailand for over 2 years now and never had any problems. 

You can buy a Neta V EV in Thailand for ฿549,000, but maybe you think that’s expensive.

I have been waiting for the Government EV incentives to kick in and in April I purchased a made in Thailand Deco Hannah for ฿30,640 it was previously ฿50,000. We have solar so it gets charged for free when we have excess power in the middle of the day. 

It is fun to ride and my wife loves it compared to our previous Honda Click, that always seemed to be breaking down.

This time an Isuzu tried the same trick won’t they learn

Meanwhile in Thailand EV news.

Toyota Hilux rendered undrivable after rear-ending BYD ATTO 3 which suffered a lost rear number plate.

16 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

I have 11kW of panels feeding into a 10kW inverter (SMILE-T10-HV-INV).

 

The software they have provided shows how much power the panels are pumping into the house load and/or batteries.

When the batteries are full and the house load is low, the software only displays the amount of solar production that is being used.  I cannot see what the current maximum solar production could be.  I know some of the potential output is discarded because no place to expend it.

 

Is there a way to see the maximum panel output that is possible under the current conditions?

 

I can think of a few low priority power expenditures that I could use to increase the current load and consume the power that is currently being discarded.  IE time shifting consumption.

 

I have a similar problem. The software that came with my Growatt inverters (I have 3x5kW in parallel) only shows power that is consumed.

In addition to powering the house, I also am also able to power my EV and electric motorbike, but the system was designed to power an electric SUV and an electric pickup truck  - when one becomes available in Thailand. So I would like to know how much power my system is making in total to know if that is possible.

As I over the 5kW maximum for single phase, I am not allowed to feed back to the grid, so currently excess production is curtailed.

I am also trying load shifting with various appliances like my ice maker, robovac and Dyson charging that are on timers to run in the middle of the day 

2 hours ago, Fruit Trader said:

Pleased you enjoyed the video. 

No, wasted my time watching some random rubbish you found on the internet.

Not going to make that mistake again.

added to my ignore list.

21 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said:

The video below is a lot more informative and goes beyond the subject of EV fires. The exploding vehicle on charge early on in the video is quite spectacular. 

 

 

Just another China hating channel, all their videos are anti China. 
 

You said it was more information- where did it discuss different battery chemistry in EVs and the difference between PHEVs and BEVs. You know NEVs and BEVs are not the same right?

15 hours ago, patman30 said:

others here on AN claiming righteousness for having EV and solar,

do not take other stuff into account and they like to conveniently forget they are still dependant on those dirty fossil fuels
even if they did install a 3KW on grid solar setup

There is quite an active Solar group on AN and I haven’t seen anybody installing as little as 3kW. I moderate a Thailand solar group on FB and again never seen 3kW. The minimum is 5kW and even then most people install 6kW of PV with a 5kW inverter.

You accuse EV owners of “claiming righteousness” but I have never heard diesel drivers like yourself acknowledge the harm that they causing by their own emissions. Thailand has a real problem with poor air quality.

59 minutes ago, matchar said:

It looks super narrow, tiny battery (20kWh) and only 47 kW (63 hp; 64 PS) which makes the Neta V look good at 38.5 kWh, 95 hp respectively.

I agree with you completely, but some folk love Japanese Cars and wouldn’t buy Chinese. 
 

We need to get them out of their Hilux and Tunas

Interesting that the video posted from Top Gear is now 20 years old. Back in the studio James said that we would be driving H2 cars in 10-20 years time - that quote hasn’t aged well.

It all comes down to Economics, producing Green Hydrogen is just too expensive. 

When I make power from my solar system to put in my electric car there is a small efficiency loss due to the inversion process, but over 90% of the energy ends up in my car. 
 
With current electrolyzers, green hydrogen's efficiency is around 30%, which means 70% of the renewable energy put into producing green hydrogen is lost across the full cycle of production and use.

The claim that we can make H2 from Nuclear doesn’t make sense as Nuclear produced electricity is so expensive. Hinkley Point C in the UK contract cost for producing electricity is £92.50/ MWh with the price rising with inflation every year v Wind power than is currently £40/MWh with costs falling all the the time!

Before anybody bothers to post it - there is a video doing the rounds posted by a China hating channel claiming that BYD EVs in China are catching fire all the time. He fails to identify the cars as PHEV (they have a gasoline engine) or full EV.

Watch this linked video first.

https://youtu.be/B9Zu8NMOz2A

To get this back to EVs and Parking.

EV Battery chemistry is changing.

The 2 biggest EV manufactures are BYD who use 100% lithium iron phosphate batteries (LFP)  and Tesla whose best selling models by far are the standard range model 3 & Y also use LFP. Ford has now moved to LFP. The excellent new MG 4 here in Thailand has LFP batteries.

I have 36kWh of LFP batteries in my house  - not in a shed at the bottom of the garden.

So what is so special about LFP Batteries? Watch the video to find out.

11 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

don't have an EV, but I would like to know if they are sold with a portable electric generator on diesel or do you need to buy it yourself,?

EVs are starting to be sold with solar panels attached so you don’t have to use the ones attached to your house.

37 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

They claim to want an open-minded discussion, as long as it is in positive terms only. One hand clapping.

I have already proved that you are happy to post fact-free links bashing EVs. 
 

If you could stick to the facts instead of the FUD we could have a discussion.

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Show me where I have said EV cars are rubbish, please

How about this post of yours linking to article that claimed that airtight sealed EV batteries would spontaneous combust if the car comes into contact with salt water. 

 

24 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Ultracrepidarian is a new word for me, thanks.

Your hypothesis depends on whether EV zealots have any interest in ICE threads. Maybe they prefer the cachet of exclusivity, plenty of cults in America to attest to that.

"reserve is true'? tut tut.

You failed to address my main point:

Why those who don’t own an EV are so obsessed with telling those of us who do, how rubbish EVs are?

Before you accuse EV owners of

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

spurious virtue signalling

Remember that ICE cars spew a toxic cocktail into the air for others to breathe.
 

I charge from home solar, even if that means being flexible about when I drive the car.

22 hours ago, motdaeng said:

it's a pity that the Seal is still not available in thailand and we do not have

any information about the pricing yet ...

BYD Seal is definitely coming to Thailand, that was what I was told at the motor show. As for price, as it is the Atto 4 I would expect to cost more that the Atto 3, so over ฿1.2m and as BYD likes to price it’s cars less than Tesla, so less than ฿1.9m. BYD gets government incentives but Tesla doesn’t.

BYD Seal Wrapped in Camouflage has been seen testing in Bangkok

22 hours ago, motdaeng said:

took a closer look at the BYD Seal at the motor show (march 2023).

i really like its exterior, but i find the interior design to be overloaded

I didn’t like the blue interior of the BYD Seal at the motor show. However I think the dark interior is much more toned down. This is quite a good video of the dark interior. Be interested to hear your thoughts.