Bandersnatch

As the author of this thread I made it very clear that this thread would just be about EVs in Thailand. Anything else is off topic and will be reported. You are welcome to post a negative review of an EV you have test driven here in Thailand. There are several existing threads about EVs v ICE cars. This is a video I made about V2L

Do at least some basic research before reposting rubbish you find on the internet! https://cleantechnica.com/2022/10/07/florida-state-fire-marshal-tells-crazy-lie-about-evs/ Remember this discussion is about EVs in Thailand. There are plenty of other treads for EV bashers.

http://www.evat.or.th/15708256/current-status

Great report - thanks for sharing and keep us posted on any updates. My MG has voice control and sometimes it understands me better than my Thai gf - that really pisses her off.

BTD Alto 3 in Thailand LFP Blade Batteries 60.48 kWh V2L Charging speed 7kW AC 80kW DC single motor 150kW power 310Nm torque Free Home Charger and installation Free AC travel charger

This site includes a price for the BYD Han in Thai Baht - I assume just a conversion of the price in China. So it’s not an actuate price list of BYD cars in Thailand. BYD has categorically said that “its older vehicles, including the Han sedan and Tang SUV, won't be built in right-hand drive. Everything we're bringing in the right-hand-drive market is either on the 3.0 platform or future platforms, where the Han and the Tang are built on a different platform that is not coming to right-hand-drive markets” https://www.drive.com.au/news/byd-han-tang-song-ruled-out-for-australia/

Official launch of BYD ATTO 3 in Thailand on 10-10.

With all the flooding we have been having, maybe having a made in Thailand Fomm EV as a second car or instead of a motorbike might be a good idea.

I charge when my solar system is producing excess power over and above what the house and home batteries need. For safety reasons I keep the wall box powered down at it’s local breaker so this is an additional step for me before changing. I do not need timed charging but maybe others do, so post instructions here and I’m sure others would appreciate it.

I contacted WallBox as they claim the Copper SB Socket supports solar, but when I downloaded the manual and installation manual there was no mention of CT clamps or solar. I asked them why and haven't heard back from them. As I have an existing EVSE???? fitting a replacement will be quite straight forward, so I will do it myself. The problem comes with connecting the Harvi CT clamps. I have joined the MyEnergi forum now so can ask about Battery CT clamp placement.

Well spotted @Andrew Dwyer - I missed that completely ???? If it is the MG VS - then there no plug hole to plug into.

You are correct, but as WallBox is now a trade name there is some potential confusion

Solar combined with a Power Station would give you backup power in the event of a blackout. It would be nice to be able to run a fan all night if the power went down. You could use the solar to charge up a battery for an electric motorbike etc

That comment does not surprise me at all. The company that MG chose to install my wall box said that 30A was a PEA requirement - I didn't believe them and checked with PEA -They said it isn't a requirement and also isn't necessary for a 7kW load if you don't have other high loads in the house. There is a great deal of ignorance around EVs and Solar in Thailand as a result there are a great deal of "myths" floating about. If someone tells you something that doesn't smell right it's probably ????????

Just going to link to this thread on the MG EV Forum for anybody who wants to know more https://www.mgevs.com/threads/battery-balancing.2787/

Not sure if condo rules would allow this in your Thai condo, so best to check before purchase. Checkout the EcoFlow Flagship Store on Lazada Thailand https://s.lazada.co.th/s.7WNvn

Maybe I should explain the difference between dumb and smart wall chargers. My Free MG wall charger is dumb. I switch it on and authenticate with an RFID card. It starts charging immediately and stops when the car says it is full. If I wanted to use it with a TOU meter with it I would have to start it a 10pm manually. If I set the power to the charger to come on at 10pm automatically I would still have authenticate with the RFID card (maybe I could stick the RFID card permanently to the face of the charger - never tried that) The 2.3kW granny charger can be plugged into a smart socket and doesn’t need RFID so could be set to come on at 10pm. Tesla’s wall charger is dumb but the car is smart so you can set charge time and % in the car or on the app. The Zappi can set charge times; you can choose to only use solar - so charging rates will rise and fall with solar production; only use solar after your house batteries are full; It can integrate with smart tariffs and only charge with cheap rates. Currently I charge my car when it’s sunny and try to remember to switch it off if gets too dark - which doesn’t always happen ????

I follow Artisan electrics and have posted one of their videos in this thread. I have contacted My Energi about the Zappi and they will ship to Thailand. It costs about £1,000. You don’t need the hub anymore as it’s built into the latest Zappi. The Harvi comes one ct clamp costs £50. I will need CT clamps for my grid connection, solar and batteries. I plan to join the My Energi forum. Also the MG EV Forum podcast has a plan to interview Jordan Brompton from My Energi so I might join that one.

5kW of PV is the maximum solar you can have on single phase, so my system is too big to be allowed to feedback. I have smart switches which shut off phantom loads at night. The chest freezer is loaded up with ice and we don’t open it at night. It probably doesn’t save too much but every little counts. We have an ice making machine which just runs in the middle of the day. My free mg wall box is dumb. I am looking at replacing it with a smart wall charger that matches EV charging rate to my solar production.

I saw that study, currently where there are time of use electric rates they are not dynamically following the wholesale markets but are broadly fixed. “Economy 7” in the UK and TOU rate 10pm-9am in Thailand. EV owners aren’t stupid they will charge when rates are cheapest and smart chargers can be programmed to dynamically switch on an off as wholesale rates change. In the same way Solar producers like me shouldn’t be restricted by stupid rules in Thailand. I produce more power than my house and car can use, but I am not allowed to sell back to the grid at all. With solar, house batteries and an EV in Thailand I attempt to load shift to match consumption with times when I am producing the most power, so I charge my EV in the middle of the day and my freezer is on a timer to switch off at night. Teslas virtually power plant in California uses customers powerwalls to sell electricity at times of peak demand. That model can be expanded to include EVs. Thailand unfortunately seems very slow adapt to these new ideas of a distributed power grid

I saw this video a couple of years ago about a Deco electric bike shop in Bang Saen - that's a bit closer.

You’re right it did.

The last car, the only one to successfully drive through the water was a Tesla.

The made in Thailand FOMM EV seems to be part boat