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8 hours ago, Thechook said:

Total incompetence by Prayuth and his elite security personnel,  couldn't guard a dead fish.  Thousands monitoring and guarding a monk who walks straight past, troops deployed, roadblocks set up to monitor Yingluk and the little old lady strolls out.

Don't get confused between "couldn't" and "don't want to" 

5 hours ago, Bob12345 said:

Since when is Meechai the defense laywer of Boonsong?

 

I thought the old man was working on drafting constitutions, looking how things are going I would recommend him to already make a head start with the next constitution instead of advicing others what to do in anticipation of sentence reviews. Might take less than a decade for the next one if he already starts now.

As a senior figure, with expertise in Thai law, he's more than entitled to make a comment.

You think a couple of minutes will make any difference to his main job? Get real.

I'm sure a few will be making that suggestion to Boonsong and his lawyers too. 

Sing for a reduced sentence - could get entertaining if he does. Get the popcorn ready.

Just now, jayboy said:

You have not understood the point I was making.The point you make is speculative and in my opinion nonsense.

Virtually all of your posts are speculative and based on your own opinion. But you know that already.

Let's see how it pans out shall we. If the convicted criminal decides to do a deal or keep quiet and take one for the boss.

Just now, baboon said:

So the expensive lawyers left it to the last minute or what? The whole thing just doesn't add up.

None of it adds up.

Unless they all thought a deal that suited everyone was about to be done; and then it suddenly went pear shaped and no deal meant prison time, so a sharp exit was needed. 

Remember we aren't dealing with mature logical, thinking.

1 hour ago, jayboy said:

I don't think the likes of Boonsoong are at much risk in Thai prisons.He does not fall into the category of prisoner (or suspect) where detention could easily be a death sentence.

Depends. Now if someone offers a much reduced sentence in exchange for information and he decides to co-operate - well then he might just be another statistic.

Just now, baboon said:

But how could anyone have tipped her off when even the judges didn't know the verdict?

Everyone here loves to be "in the know" and talk as though they know everything.

But apart from that, all those highly paid lawyers in her defense team must've known their defense had all the strength of a chocolate teapot. So I'm sure they would be advise her of a likely guilty verdict.

But that's all assuming Reuters "secret anonymous" source is correct.

And that no deal was being negotiated of the last couple of years 

Take your choice - but we'll never know.

47 minutes ago, Saladin said:

If I was Yingluck I would have done a runner too, given that her offsider got 42 years in the can, which is a sentence you wouldn't even get for mass murder in the West.

 

You would in the US!

But the max custodial sentence she faced for the charges against her were 10 years.

From the OP seems she couldn't even face one night in prison.

The same 'champion of democracy willing to die on democracy's battle field" - yeah right. Same yellow streak as big bro.

7 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

What an outrageous statement!

 

The Junta has said that they did not know the verdict in advance, and I really really, really believe them.

 

 

Or there again, she knew she was as guilty as hell, of the actual charge and was hoping for a slapped wrist max.

Pretty hard to be acquitted you offer no defense or mitigation to the actual charge.

So someone tipped her off, that in the likely event of a guilty verdict she'd receive a stiff sentence. So she bottled it and did a runner. And couldn't give a monkey's.

Classy.

2 hours ago, mike324 said:

I'm sure Yingluck is a good person at heart, too bad she was force to take the political job that is costing her own happiness and life

I'm sure your're right that she was badgered into office and then told what to do.

But what makes you think she's a good person at heart?

Just now, maxcorrigan said:

And a Smattering of Eastenders thrown in, for good measure!

I always found Eastenders a bit depressing. Now Corrie. Imagine YS as Hilda, or Elsie Tanner, big bro as Mike Baldwin and the petit general as Ken Barlow. 

1 hour ago, Lupatria said:

Isn't that already the job of the guys in the computer crime task force? Maybe it's a result of the "inactive post" policy. Now teachers and parents are asked to do the job. It would definitely help if there is an award like for the volunteer traffic "informers".

Some Police forces in the UK are actively supporting parents and teachers to get more involved with what's going on with kids and social media.

1 hour ago, jesimps said:

Another mug who thinks that the country's Red-hued PM would initiate the rice pledging scheme, under full scrutiny of the Yellow-hued amart and military, and hope to make a personal killing from it. Especially considering that they are hovering like kitehawks waiting for an excuse for a coup. I realise most politicians aren't Einsteins, but to carry this out right out in the open would have been foolish in the extreme. I get the impression that Yingluck isn't that much of a fool.

 

No, it was an honest attempt to help the farmers, just like govts in other countries do. Schemes that subsidise the needy are by definition money losing schemes, but they allow people the dignity of carrying on working whilst earning a living wage.

Agree that Yingluck wouldn't have been daft enough to get caught with her hand in the till. Too smart for that given who her brother is. But "it was an honest attempt to help the farmers" - your're having a laugh.

3 hours ago, baboon said:

Don't be so bloody facetious. Clearly she was able to escape by cunningly disguising herself as a rice farm and nipping out of the side entrance. 

No mate. She just made sure they were all playing Candy Crush, had a few beers, being served by some suitably attired young ladies, and plenty of som tam!

When asked if they knew where Yingluck was the watching security forces said " Yingluck who?"

1 hour ago, DLang said:

 

And if the verdict came back not guilty!

 

 

Of course that's impossible as it was all decided long ago by the Junta. 

Or there again, based on the evidence reported in the media, she's guilty. A charge which to date, she and her legal team have never defended.

3 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

Yeah, she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer for sure and I cringed once watching her being interviewed because it was so painful.  but I can't think of anyone dumber than Prayuth.  I don't think I've ever heard utter a coherent sentence.  I don't even think the frog understood him.

Many Thai people I know say her spoken Thai isn't impressive either! But, again, as a billionaire, she's not likely bothered!

That's often the case with people born into wealth. 

You should watch Prayuth on TV more. He's smarter than he seems. But not necessarily making all the decisions. 

It's very hard to judge anybodies real intelligence when that person is in actor/actress mode!

25 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

True, but agencies like Reuters should get their facts right. 

I once dd some work with Reuters - not their journalists but their management. I used to have a much better opinion of them as an organization and source of reliable news. It's been diminished by the constant incorrect comments that favor the Shiniwattras.

You only have to miss out a bit of detail or use certain words to influence perception. Reuters will rely on the unbiased professionalism of the two journalists mentioned in the OP. Sadly, they seem to repeat a few small distortions that have a big potential affect on how the situation is perceived by those who have little other subject knowledge.

1 minute ago, Oziex1 said:

At the end of the day they really don't give a damn about Yingluck running away, who helped her or whatever.

 

So long as the money flows into their pockets and into the pockets of their backers and cronies all is well in their little world.

Sadly, that just about sums it up. For all sides. All about the money and who controls the flow.

6 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

Maybe so but compared with Prayuth she's like Stephen Hawking.

What leads you to that conclusion Stephen?

Have you ever watched any of her interviews or speeches? 

I doubt she is stupid. But like many mega rich Thai elites, not really interested in using the education she was afforded as there's no need. 

1 hour ago, darksidedog said:

And there is little point bothering, because no one is going to extradite her to an unelected military Junta on a charge that has "politically motivated" written all over it.

As for Prayut (supposedly) not having the first clue about how she managed to run off, while being closely watched, it shows what a total bunch of incompetents they are. Either that or just bare faced liars. Neither are particularly admirable traits in a country's leader.

Any country with a real law system and an extradition treaty with Thailand would take a formal request for extradition seriously. They would follow their own legal procedures in reaching a decision on whether to extradite or not.

They would look at the actual law details of the case, law broken and evidence. They wouldn't fall for the "politically motivated" excuse so glibly trotted out on TVF as a reason to excuse Yingluck's negligence. They would also look at the Junta but as all countries continue to have normal relations with Thailand regardless of a Junta government, then that in itself may not been seen as an issue.

In the EU she could appeal to the EU Court of Justice, backed by the two tame German MEP's who came to visit her. Now that court would probably block any extradition based on past record. As that really is an example of a politically controlled court.

It seems inconceivable that someone under close scrutiny can slip so easily away so close to a verdict. Either some gross incompetence, or some big porkies being told. It's extraordinary here how lying is so natural and off the cuff. 

As for extradition. Well they have to deliver the verdict first, and sentence, in absentia. Then someone would need to complete the extradition request after discovering where she is. As a bail abscondee she's a fugitive. Have they organized an Interpol blue or red notice? Don't hold your breath for any of that happening anytime soon!

50 minutes ago, retarius said:

Well that didn't take long did it? Maybe the $10,000 bill for make up made people wonder what sort of man he is. Kinda like Sarkozy's shoes that made him look taller.

Well he married his former drama teacher so perhaps they need that make up for family productions?

1 hour ago, tezzainthailand said:

Gutsy lady, who had a conscience.  Of course, many on this forum will complain about the cost of bringing migrants in but never complain of the BIGGER cost of going to war.  Hypocrites!

Migrants - you admit that few were refugees and many simply illegal economic migrants taking advantage of the misfortune of others?

She exacerbated a dangerous situation by acting without considering the consequences. When that became obvious she tried to force her "conscience" on other nations regardless of their views and opinions.

Being repeatedly re-elected can make politicians believe their won propaganda.

3 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

No regrets, I intended to screw over Europe and I did it.

If she said she regretted it, then she'd be admitting she was wrong and made a poor decision. And she ain't never gonna do that, especially with an election round the corner!

Mrs Never wrong, do as I say. And what's worse she'll do anything, regardless of the consequences to others, to protect herself.

Just now, JAG said:

Always fun to extend metaphors!
How about a combination of " Macbeth" and "A Comedy of Errors" for the current outfit?
Toad of Toad Hall as the B feature!

They're not up to Macbeth - too heavy! "A Comedy of Errors would be more of a fit." Or even a "Carry On film - a sort of Carry On Up the Junta"

Thaksin as Hamlet holding Chalerm's self decapitated head - priceless!

Or some kind of hybrid between the Tudors and the Borgias - even work Pattaya into that one  !

5 hours ago, starky said:

Yeah uhm ok why the <deleted> would it? Plus if she hasnt already moved the majority of her assets offshore shes a fool, which I doubt she is. She will lose what would be a lot for the average punter id imagine but a mear drop in the ocean for the shin dynasty.

I'm sure a lot of the more liquid assets have been held outside Thailand for a long time. All those tax free havens and the usual secret banking hubs being well stuffed.

But, she has property, land, expensive jewelry, etc. Unless of course it's all been distributed among the servants and drivers!

Interesting to see how ruthless they are in the seizing of things. That might be an indication of the deal done.

They really should produce a soap about this family.

A sort of Dynasty meets Dallas, with a bit of Falcon Crest thrown in for good measure. Some Neighbors added just to get the feel good factor!