Baerboxer

How would you like to see Stalin Vodka, Hiroito Sushi, Mao freid noddles, Inquisition Tapas? All guilty of crimes as bad as Hitler. Some got away with it though.

There ya go

http://www.advertolog.com/allied-domecq/print-outdoor/stalin-1635105/

http://chairman-maos-chicken.xanga.com/

Thanks Soutpeel! A Jewish advertising agency using a tyrant mass murderer's picture to advertise a British produced vodka for sale to the Greek market! There's got to be some irony there !!!

American restaurant's serving Mao chicken - OMG! Wonder if the Chinese will come up with Obama burgers and GWB ribs?

Yes, but the Irish soon sorted them out.

<deleted>? Who did they sort out - fried chicken joints called Hitler ?? Ah, to replace them with Molly Maguire's Irish fried chicken and beer pubs?

I am getting freaked out ...just a little bit...about this idiotic country.

If you just mention certain persons, historical or present figures, and you do not praise them in the highest of all possible ways, you get looked at like you just p..d on your grandmothers corps.

That of course is no reason for Thais (yes, I am generalizing) not to give a sh1t about any feelings other nationalities may have about some of their historical figures.

Of course, you can turn any flag of any country in the world into anything from flip- flopps to diapers, if you are Thai.

Just imagine, you would do the same thing with the Thai- flag!

And as much as I am for an open discourse about Hitler, Stalin, Mao (you name them) and against any king of collective guilt- trip, that we Germans have been send on for many years, even if we were not even born, when Hitler willy-nilly killed approx. 30 Million people in a war and in the gas-chambers of his Kz's....as much am I against forgetting what happened.

Fair points. I'm sure if anyone used the Thai flag for anything the Thais would be up in arms. Yet, as you say, they're quite happy to disrespect other nations' flags. Says a lot about their attitiude to respect and non-Thais.

Interesting to see the difference on how Germany and its war criminals were treated after defeat compared to Japan and its war criminals. You might be interested to do this as there are significant differences. Japanese have not been taught about the attrocious war crimes committed by their leaders and armed services; some of which make Hitler look like a beginner. And many senior Japanese went unpunished even though they were caught and as guilty as hell.

Interesting, that the British are complaining the most. Don't they remember they themselves were responsible for genocide in Africa, India, Australia and the rest of the Commonwealth countries where the British imperialistic conquerors set foot.

This post is about opening a fast food place using Hitler as the name and logo.

If you want to bash other countries that you don't like, star a new thread. While your at it do some research of facts. Look at Belgium's record in the Congo, how the US treated Native Americans, the Turks treatment of Armenians, Russia's record against Poles, Cossacks and even deliberate starving of its own people; France's record in North Africa and French Indo-China, etc etc

The history books are peppered with incidences of genocide, ethnic cleansing, and persecution based on race, religion or beliefs.

Britain, the US and France have past history that viewed through modern perspecitves is not acceptable - however, these countries suffered greatly in two world wars so everyone, even a genius like you, would be free to express their view and opinion. Without their sacrifice you would be in a very different world.

How would you like to see Stalin Vodka, Hiroito Sushi, Mao freid noddles, Inquisition Tapas? All guilty of crimes as bad as Hitler. Some got away with it though.

Hmmmm, gives me an idea, Bin Laden rotis or Sadam shish kebabs, or George Bush burgers, how about, Mussolini pizza??

How about Blairs bangers?

Or Salmon's fish cakes ?

Bluespunk, Chiang Mai

Guy's it's Friday night, it's just a thread about some frakking cartoon picture of Col Saunders with Hitlers head on it selling fried chicken. It's not a thread about Global history lessons and the slaughter of millions. Thai kids probably know as much about Hitler as Vicky Pollard knows about the history of Siam, and the only thing most middle age Brits know about the History of Siam is it had something to do with Yul Brynner and Deborah Kerr. Don't they have a happy hour near where you live?

Would just like to point out that AnotherOneAmerican is not alone in his attitude of immediately forgiving and forgetting anything bad that happens in this world.

Apparently goldfish do it too.

I think you'll find the pope and millions of catholics do to. For anyone wanting to repent that is.

Where are all the usual PTP Red supporters hiding? Not seen any posts from them explaining the rice scheme disaster, water management fiasco, the pushing to get their hands on the 2.2 trillion, PM's lies about the reshuffle, certain ministers' comments on the reshuffle, the TRT boys back after their corruption bans, or this latest "offshore cabinet meeting" with the real PM.

Come on - Rich Teacher, Mutley, The Derby County fan, Indyuk, etc, etc. Please comment and enlighten entertain us. Don't be shy now.

Three days ago the PM launched a campaign against corruption, today her entire cabinet and high ranking police officers are due to be given their orders by, in effect, a criminal, charged amongst other things with corruption (Rachapheiske land deal)

Hands up if you think the campaign against corruption is not hypocrisy of the highest possible order and that it will (sadly for the hard working folk of this fantastic little country we all call home ) fail (again).

The weak get weaker,

the poor get poorer

and the rich pigs fly to Hong Kong (and our taxes pay for the privilege)

Fair point JC!

The fugitive convicted criminal Thaksin is not part of the government (officially). So there is no official reason for any mimister or lacky to be flying at tax payers expense, unless of course they're going to arrest him, kidnap him and bring him back to face justice (5555!)

If they have used tax payers' money to for this trip then surely they must be breaking some law?

Ombudsman, oppositions, Abhisit - where are you?

I would have said Tarit but we all know where he takes orders from!

PTP are now so arrogant that they make no attempt to hide the fact that they are owned, led and controlled by a convicted fugitive criminal; and senior police officers are also now apparently willing to do this too. The so called PM wanders off on another travel adventure while all this goes on.

No other country in the world would put up with a situation like this. Here its just 'mai pben rai"! Big T appears to have bought the PTP, the Red Guard, and now the police. Future doesn't look rosy, especially if they get their hands on the 2.2 trillion.

Poor Thaksin, only #10. Bet that hurts.

Yes, but a good slice of 2.2 trillion will boost him up next year

Yeah .Duty free . reminds me

Last month as I went through customs I had my two 7 baht water bottles taken from me , thinking cannot take on the plane ....

Well it turned out water was for sale all over duty free for 30 baht ,same sized as the one taken from me !

This is how to get rich !

Yep - captive customers and a monopoly. Wonderful businessment aren't they?

While I don't approve of smoking in any form ,its a nasty habit,

I do feel that Thailand is slowly turning into a nanny state just

like those in the West ,where they try to control everything.

regards Worgeordie

When we moan about pollution, or traffic jams, or useless electricity, it is precisely because the country lacks enough nannying. Companies and individuals are not paying the true cost of what they cost society.

Who is going to make companies pay their externalities? The state. Smoking causes a social cost that is high. We can't have it both ways. If you want clean water companies have to pay for water treatment. Regulation is the only way unfortunately and it leads to a nanny state.

I think that is a gross over simplification of how a society becomes a nanny state, but having lived in the worlds most developed Nanny State for eight years. I can say, life there aint all that bad, though one does get sick of the complaining to which the populace has taken as a national sport of sorts. But really in any logic, companies will only do what they are legislated to do, other than that, screw that, they will do anything they want and can get away with.

Regulation does not lead to nanny, what I would say gets you from regulation to ignorance is people in the government, executive and servants enjoy telling people what is best for them, and most people dont care about most things and are generally happy to be lazy and spoon fed whatever. Unfortunately we as species always take things too far and suck all the joy out of life.. just to save a few lives or add a minute percentage of quality into ones life, theoretically.

Lastly, this article is Advising Parents to Warn kids against buying, what an interesting conversation to have with a kid. Baffles the mind

'but having lived in the worlds most developed Nanny State for eight years' - which part of Australia was that?

Yeah did the article really need to say that his ex wife was with another foreigner and that he occasionally bought women back to his room.

They are material to the story. His ex-wife now lives in Denmark with her new husband. Not a suspec therefore unless she happens to be visiting. Nothing wrong in a single man taking women back to his room, People can have as many casuual or serious relationships as they want. However, there is alawys the risk of taking a stranger back. So these ladies would beed to be identified, interviewed and eliminated from the enquiry.

I don't see either piece of information being derogatory to the victim, may he rest in peace.

even in India, soap and deoderant is readily available!

conclusion: u have been to india but didn't really understand it.

as far as "their culture" is concerned, there is no such thing as a homogeneous culture in a subcontinent like India.

pls don't generalise...

Please don't split hairs either! Are you an expert on the regional, ethnic, social and religious cultural and behavourial differences in the Indian subcontinent? Have you researched commonality and differences in cultural based behaviour and the underlying reasons for them? If so, please share with us.

I must say I am surprised that anyone would want to kick an Indian. Any business dealings I have had with Indians have been thoroughly professional, pleasant and fair. Uh hum!

Oh god racism is alive and well. Bet you would say the same if it was an Arab. There is no reason for violence anytime no excuse unless attacked yourself or one of your loved ones.

I agree with you regarding no reason for violence unless you or loved ones are attacked. I don't support racism, or any other discrimination. It's often easy to stereotype and generalize when talking about a particular nationality or perceived national trait. Not always correct but often on the mark.

However, first I think Kurnell's remark was tongue-in-cheek rather than a malicious slurr. Secondly, having lived and worked in India for several years, and having many close Indian friends, I can see why he's made the comment. Unfortunately some of the Indian behavourial traits can appear arrogant, rude, opinionated, aggressive and dishonest. Anyone who has done business in India will know the word "no" does not exist; they will also know few promises are kept, honouring a contractual agreement or standing by your word is regarded as optional, and payment of money is to be avoided as long as possible. Not making a judgement on this, just expressing the differences.

Am I generalizing, yes. Am I racist, no. Is this based on my empirical experiences over time, yes.

Have I met similar Europeans, North Americans, Asians and Aussies - absolutely. But the % of Indians that behave like this is much greater, based on my experiences.

I've never seen Thai street vendors launch an unprovoked attack. Something happend to spark it, and we don't know what yet.

The boss of my old company completed his doctorate in Adelaide, Australia via correspondence (or rather someone in his office did it for him), so is it safe to assume that all rich people in Thailand have done the same thing?

Not just Thailand! Most Universities, including some in Thailand, now use very sophisticated anti-plagiarization software. Amazing results.

Professional body exams are a prime candidate for "ghost writers and exam takers" as well as post graduate courses.

Did they do a re-enactment of the politician who shot his ex-wife whilst cleaning his Uzi over dinner in the restaurant.

Accidents happen - and I'd like to make sure I learned how to avoid this from studying the re-enactment.

I guess there are strange customs and practises everywhere. Such as the funny wigs in British courts...

Thailand is the hub of pointing of suspects and crime enactation.

How right you are about funny wigs, they prance about like transvestites in the British courtrooms. The country just cannot come into the 21st century, and what about the fancy titles, the Sirs and Lords.

What nonsense Paddy! The robes and wigs retain an air of authority in a similar way to other uniforms. The laws and justice system of the British countries have evolved over centuries and are regarded as some of the best in the world. Countries whose legal system is based on common law rather than civil have usually based this on the British system. The judges, lawyers and court officers in many countries wear some form of gown, wig, hat, sash or robe to identify their office.

I've never seen any court officials "prance about": and don't have you intimate knowledge on "transvestites" so can't comment on that. I wonder if you think those guys who prance around in orange skirts trying to play bagpipes are transvestites too?

This topic is about police making suspects re-enact crimes they are acused of and have 'admitted" during interogation; but I guess you see it as an opportunity to have a dig at a country you don't like or understand.

Being a Scot, I have never seen any guys in an orange skirt, I take it you mean a tartan skirt.

You've got the wrong flag in your avatar then. As Billy Conolly used to say "talking short bread tins".

Good luck to him but i seriously doubt if there has been an economic boom in dusty Isan. Isan's economy is the same as the Phllipines. It relies heavily on overseas remittances from women and men working overseas and of course the tens of thousands of village girls living abroad with foreign husbands.

Some girls are sending 30-50,000 baht monthy back to Ubon,KK,Udon, Kalasin Roi et Buriram etc from their German,Swiss,Austrian husbands businesess or her own income (massage).

Everywhere you go in Isan you see big new houses next to wooden huts and shacks. New houses abound.

Old man farang money.Thai's get the farangs to build them.

Add it up. Hundreds of thousands of Isan people sending billions of baht back home every year. I;m not surprised Isan is slowly moving ahead.

Turn off the o/s bank remittance tap and you can forget about selling building supplies.

I know lots of Thai ladies married to foreign husbands who have never worked in the sex industry. Some have successful businesses in their new countries, some take on two or more manual type jobs. All work very hard and in legal occupations; and most fulfil what they see as their duty to send some money to their parents.

Shocking isn't it that not all Isan ladies fit your biased and insulting narrow minded stereotype,

I am exagerating a little infact here on the west side of Bangkok there are thousands of Isan people working for a living but i doubt if theyre sending alot of money back home because the cost of living in Bangkok has skyrocketed since Yingluck came into office. Phetkasem rd was almost empty today. No traffic . Petrol too expensive. Street markets are quite. As for buying land in Isan ? No way. Its a dust bowl. I would much rather pay 400,000 baht for 1 rai in outer Bangkok districts than 20,000 baht per rai in Ubon. I have no intention of living with Otto or Wolfgang Shultz in dry,non irrigated Isan.

Just remember that Isan land purchase could be beach front soon !!

Will you get the sea passage and fishing rights with the land purchase in outer Bangkok? Be careful, China will probably claim them too.

Good luck to him but i seriously doubt if there has been an economic boom in dusty Isan. Isan's economy is the same as the Phllipines. It relies heavily on overseas remittances from women and men working overseas and of course the tens of thousands of village girls living abroad with foreign husbands.

Some girls are sending 30-50,000 baht monthy back to Ubon,KK,Udon, Kalasin Roi et Buriram etc from their German,Swiss,Austrian husbands businesess or her own income (massage).

Everywhere you go in Isan you see big new houses next to wooden huts and shacks. New houses abound.

Old man farang money.Thai's get the farangs to build them.

Add it up. Hundreds of thousands of Isan people sending billions of baht back home every year. I;m not surprised Isan is slowly moving ahead.

Turn off the o/s bank remittance tap and you can forget about selling building supplies.

I know lots of Thai ladies married to foreign husbands who have never worked in the sex industry. Some have successful businesses in their new countries, some take on two or more manual type jobs. All work very hard and in legal occupations; and most fulfil what they see as their duty to send some money to their parents.

Shocking isn't it that not all Isan ladies fit your biased and insulting narrow minded stereotype,

Many political observers believe House dissolution is Thaksin Shinawatra's Plan B

He has a Plan B?

What a smart guy.

It's normally Plan A or escape route.

Yep for sure. He will dissolve the house and think he can get a new mandate for another 4 years before all the wheels do come off. So put the rice price back up, show the farmers we care; get the boys back in the cabinet; maybe a couple of "Monglian" type speeches from the puppet in Turkey and Poland; knows the Americans will back a "democratically" elected government - so good to go.

He might have a lot of problems - but stupidity ain't one of them.

BANGKOK, July 3 - Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra flatly ruled out a report of House dissolution.

Going on past history a statement like that from Ms Yingluck pretty much guarantees it's going to happen then

Yep. As soon as she starts keeping "mum" instead of denying it we'll know its iminent.

I guess there are strange customs and practises everywhere. Such as the funny wigs in British courts...

Thailand is the hub of pointing of suspects and crime enactation.

How right you are about funny wigs, they prance about like transvestites in the British courtrooms. The country just cannot come into the 21st century, and what about the fancy titles, the Sirs and Lords.

What nonsense Paddy! The robes and wigs retain an air of authority in a similar way to other uniforms. The laws and justice system of the British countries have evolved over centuries and are regarded as some of the best in the world. Countries whose legal system is based on common law rather than civil have usually based this on the British system. The judges, lawyers and court officers in many countries wear some form of gown, wig, hat, sash or robe to identify their office.

I've never seen any court officials "prance about": and don't have you intimate knowledge on "transvestites" so can't comment on that. I wonder if you think those guys who prance around in orange skirts trying to play bagpipes are transvestites too?

This topic is about police making suspects re-enact crimes they are acused of and have 'admitted" during interogation; but I guess you see it as an opportunity to have a dig at a country you don't like or understand.

I dont want to impose my western views and values on Thailand.

They can conduct their criminal and judicial system as they wish.

I see the Thai system as a MUCH better system than Sharia law.

Not as good as the US/Canadian, EU or Oz systems,

but that's just my personal view.

How much Sharia Law have you actually experienced and in which countries? Or do you base your views on media reports?