4 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I feel safer in Thailand than I would back in the UK, 

Most of Europe got big problems right now, the only bright side is that you will get a free vaccination soon, doubt that will happen in Thailand for foreigners.

1 hour ago, internationalism said:

there was already 6bln for 26mln doses of astra-zeneca vaccination being made in thailand. That works $7.68 per shot. Same vax in the EU costs only $2.18.

A nice little bonus for the generals in charge 

Ahh so beautiful, did they use an old designer from the former East Germany?

I assume the illegal's will cross into another province now after this information.

Your engine can actually be destroyed if the ethanol content in the fuel you use is too high.  That’s one reason AAA has come out against the new 15% ethanol blends. I you own an old car, this twenty percent ethanol mix can destroy your car engine .

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

Another good reason to visit the Swedish Alps.

The British skiers have to drive to Sweden to get in, all flights from UK are now stopped to Sweden.  

Must be some old cruise liner that they can rent for a low price that they can put them on until they are negative. Fishing boats????

The border near Aye Chan Thar Yar in Myanmar is wide open, if you can swim a short distance over the upper Kra river you are in Thailand. Almost impossible to close off the border so no illegal immigrants can enter Thailand.

4 minutes ago, farang51 said:

Freedom in Sweden? Tell that to my cousin; her husband is at the hospital (not covid) and he may well die in the next few days; she is not allowed to visit him. In some regards, Sweden has been more strict than it's Sweden is ranked Number one in the world for personal freedom..

Yes we still got personal freedom here and I am in Sweden right now and we can travel freely to other countries and return without any quarantine. What do you mean with Sweden has been more strict than it's neighboring countries? I can't travel freely to Norway from Sweden for example. 

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Australians are capable of accepting regulation for the common good as long as the reasons are communicated clearly. As witness the gun laws that were brought in after Port Arthur.

We have just over 1000 cases of COVID-19 per million population, Sweden has over 31,000. That's a heavy price to pay for freedom.

IMO you are not going to find any international airline which does not require either vaccination or a COVID certificate, I'd say most will choose vaccination as the certificate is only a limited warranty which could be invalidated by a single contact with an infected person.

"All the people?" The purpose of vaccine trials is to weed out candidates which produce unacceptable reactions of any kind. For example, a coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Queensland has been scrapped because it produced a false positive to HIV testing in several participants.

Freedom versus becoming the worst nanny state in the world, a hard choice, but not for me.  Still love you Aussies and Kiwis, only people on this planet that can keep up drinking beer like us Vikings.

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's difficult to say which is better, accepting casualties to keep a country open, or locking down to save lives. Forecasts are for the Australian and New Zealand economies to recover faster than those countries that left the lockdown too late.

One aspect of the pandemic that seems to fly under the radar is the effect on other people admitted to hospital with conditions completely unrelated to COVID-19. It would be interesting to know how many excess deaths are caused by patients being crowded out by coronavirus victims.

IMO whether a nation accepts lockdowns, masks etc. or rejects those measures is a guide to the national character.

True, too early to evaluate what approach was the wisest in the long run. For me as a Swede and a freedom loving guy I think, looking in your whole population as Australia has done is a terrible thing to do. I will also never use Qantas airline after they said that you have to be vaccinated to be able to fly with them in the future, what about all the people who get allergic reactions to the new vaccine? 

29 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Some people don't give a damn about their fellow citizens, too. It's all about them. Mask wearing, curfews, social distancing saves the lives of others. As for laws, I see that Sweden is now imposing stricter measures. Were the laws changed for that?

They are new recommendations not laws, the governments policy was from the beginning to save the economy and not to overload the healthcare system.

Some people prefer a country without curfews, mandatory facemask wearing, and government closures of your business. The law have to be changed if the government want to close down the country and I don't think the population will accept it.  Sweden was ranked Number one in the world for personal freedom last year.

If they want to change the reputation the city got worldwide, something more than neo is needed.