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45 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

Communication breakdowns

A very good description of the Thai military government.

5 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

Thailand's two apps are named "ThaiChana" (Thais Win) and "MorChana" (Doctors Win)

The Thai military regime has turned this into some kind of nationalistic game to show that the Thais are much better than other countries.  

23 hours ago, Sakeopete said:

I hope they don't crack down too hard on the corrupt police. If you take away their harmless income streams they may start to become like the Central/South America, Eastern Europe, Africa and Philippines using kidnaping and violent extortion.  

They already do kidnaping and violent extortion.

9 hours ago, AmySeeker said:

 

Sweden have put many curbs in place. Hell if you were in Thailand trying to get to Sweden the Swedish borders were closed. My Swedish friend had to go through London to get back to Sweden. 

I left Thailand and had no problem to enter Sweden, but there are no direct flights any longer. that's probably why your friend have to fly trough London. Now Sweden does not accept any travelers from UK due to the new strain of Corvid found in UK.

3 hours ago, IamNoone88 said:

Well, the UK reported 52,618 new cases yesterday with 1,162 further deaths and they think that that is fantastic result as it was down from 62,000 cases per day, say the spin doctors (not the NHS). Sweden, the great beacon of original hope that had few restrictions during the first wave has closed shops and public transport. The seemingly draconian measures taken Thai authorities are frankly fine by me - we still end with more freedom that a UK lock down. We don't need the problems the West is facing right now.

Were did you get that from? Sweden has not closed down public transportation or any shops, only recommended that  you wear face mask on public transport, still voluntary and limited the number of visitors to shops. 

13 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

The PM is reported to have said that the app is not required as long as you notify authorities of your travel plans when crossing to another province.  This is from an official news source that can not be quoted here.

Fax in your travel plans or are they still using telex?

6 hours ago, Advocatus Diaboli said:

I have a smart phone, with internet connection, with Thai chana app.

I also use a VPN when phone connected to the internet. With VPN you cannot register Thai Chana or use the scanner process who’s gives the 403 error when used. 
 

I use Thai Chana but not my fault it does not work. 

 

From Thai Chana to Thai Phae  

ไทยชนะ

ไทยแพ้

6 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Yes. Any other questions? Such as why would anyone living in today's world outside of extreme poverty or in the hills and jungles not have a smart phone? I would go as far as saying no one should enter the country without a smart phone. I would go further and say no one in their right mind would or should travel in a covid infected world without one. Stay home, stay away from Thailand. Meanwhile, I'm sure that Thailand can address the issue if it exists just fine. I hope this puts your mind at rest. 

I did not like the name of this App, Thai Chana "Thai win" kind of xenophobia in my eyes. I also don't trust this so called "government"  run by criminals and entering my personal data in an App that they control is a big no for me.

7 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

 

1) my iphone is too old, or app ask newer OS, which my old one is not capable

2) don't have a data plan, not going to spend money to go to be able to go shop

 

wonder what will happen... denied entry ?

Just tell them that you spent all your money on hookers and whiskey, and a Katoy stole your phone when you were <deleted> and that you can't afford to buy a new one.

9 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

 

They have already secured special orders of Pfizer or Moderna for themselves and their families at taxpayer expense and without the need to wait for approval from the corrupt, foot dragging Thai FDA which has already decided to approve the untested Sinovac vaccine.

Yeah, like let the poor eat cake. We get the good stuff.

Just now, Mung said:

It's ironic as 'Thailand' literally means 'free land'

Yes, but since the little general took over it's not very free at all.

7 hours ago, Mung said:

That's one thing I certainly don't miss, and something I realised a lot more after having moved away from LOS for the first time in a decade, the control is real. Alcohol being sold at certain times of the day, alcohol bans, not being able to think and say what you feel like, and now you must own a smartphone and download an app that restricts your privacy lol. I'll pass thanks.  

Yes, quite depressing, once it was called "land of the free" and a great place.

57 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

It's all brewed by Carlsberg, in a joint venture with the Lao government.

At least they weren't screwed by a brewing company in Thailand (something to do with elephants). They brewed Carlsberg under licence, and apparently under-declared the amount they were brewing.

It went to court - in Thailand of course - and not surprisingly Carlsberg lost big time.

The result was that a senior director of Carlsberg was quoted as saying the company would never set foot in Thailand again.

It was suggested that the reason the Beer Laos brewery is located on the main road between the Friendship Bride and  Vientiane is so the Thais can see it across the Mekong.

The Logo on Carlsberg's Elephant beer, also a strong beer looks exactly like the logo they got on Chang beer and the taste of the old Chang was very similar to the taste of the Carlsberg Elephant Beer. 

Well she did not loose her knockers, looks like a valuable possessions for a young girls in Pattaya

Many years ago in Bangkok, a police started shooting at a bus full of passengers because the bus did not stop for a red light.

5 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Are these "moron" zones different from other zones that continue to have rising infection numbers but not due to risky behaviour or gambling dens?

The "moron" zones must be the government building and the parliament.

3 hours ago, oldhippy said:

QUOTE: any compare Sweden's infection figures with the other Scandinavian countries

Correct, and goes against your defence of the Swedish approach.

But I do not understand the rest of your post???

 

One of the reasons with the many deaths in the care homes in Sweden was because there were many infected immigrants working there, lots of them part timers and they were not informed about how this virus transmits during the first wave this spring. The other Scandinavian countries did not have this problem.  

3 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

The lockdown was initially sold across the world as the only way to avert calamity. The cost of the closures (in terms of lost liberty, lost livelihoods, and, indeed, lost lives through non-coronavirus health conditions) was so vast that there was no other way to justify it. Lockdown proponents didn’t say, “This might slightly reduce the mortality rate.” They said, “Do it or our hospitals will be overwhelmed!”

 

Which was, to be fair, what they initially expected to happen in Sweden. “Heading for disaster” was the headline in Britain’s right-wing Sun. “They are leading us to catastrophe,” agreed the left-wing Guardian. Time magazine reported that “Sweden’s relaxed approach to the coronavirus could already be backfiring” and quoted a doctor saying that it would “probably end in a historical massacre.” “We fear that Sweden has picked the worst possible time to experiment with national chauvinism,” chided the Washington Post. President Trump, justifying his own crackdown, bizarrely claimed that Sweden “gave it a shot, and they saw things that were really frightening, and they went immediately to shutting down the country.”

 

Not one commentator in March or April argued that Sweden might be less at risk than other places. Lockdown enthusiasts have switched very suddenly from “Sweden is heading for a genocide” to “well, we couldn’t do that here because we’re nothing like Sweden.”

 

What we are seeing is a version of the sunk cost fallacy — a determination to justify the huge losses imposed by the lockdown. It is beyond depressing to see scientists give in to these basic cognitive biases.

Many compare Sweden's infection figures with the other Scandinavian countries, in my town for example the Somali population live in more crowded flats than the native Swedes and got a five time higher infection rate compared to the natives. Many of these immigrant work in the care homes and infected many old people in the first wave before this was figured out. 

Just now, oldhippy said:

What did you think a hospital for the loso would look like?

 

Any unlucky Farang in Chantaburi could end up in that place.

Must be a nightmare to sleep on those plastic covered matrasses. 

Just now, ICELANDMAN said:

Yes why no ? Mosquitoes are deadly for transmitting many diseases

Did not know they carry the Corona virus