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  1. 1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

    The initial discussion was around who should fund cost the of install Charging Stations and  associated costs in condo buildings

    Then the forum pillocks ( POTV) jumped on board

    Some people are unable to understand that issues are highly complex and open fora tend towards wide-ranging discussions that expand the original thought based on points raised. At some point, "impulse" posted that he'd never seen a gas station in a condo/apartment complex, hence we posted reasons why. So this response was pertinent to the discussion.

    I find it amusing that you believe one can dictate the scope of a discussion on an open forum and that it should somehow naturally be restricted to those responding. Can you show me an example of such an Eden of fora that isn't at the same time so highly restricted that it has managed to achieve popularity? This is a problem worldwide since moderation requires so much effort and no websites seem profitable enough or interested in paying for said tasks.

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  2. 1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

    Do you know of any gas stations that have been installed in Condo / apartment buildings I don't 

    Can you think of a reason why? C'mon, you can do it!

    Why would one not put a reservoir full of fuel within a condo/apartment building complex? Any ideas?

    Did you know that you could install a charging station for as little as $500 for a single car in your own garage? How much do you reckon your own personal gas station would cost? Oh, and that cost comes with hardly any long-term environmental costs, no risk of leakage into groundwater or other contamination, no remediation costs once you close the site.

  3. On 9/10/2023 at 7:06 AM, JBChiangRai said:

    The issue with H2 fueling cars is efficiency.

     

    Whether fuel cell or H2ICE, the whole process is expensive and inefficient. It will always cost twice as much per km for an H2 car over a BEV car.

     

    That said we may well see H2 cars if there is a shortage of Lithium and BEV cars become premium products.

    Good news then!
     

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/lithium-deposit-found-us-may-be-among-worlds-largest-study-finds

  4. 2 hours ago, impulse said:

    Have you observed the $30+ trillion in US gub'ment debt?  Any idiot can throw money at a problem.

     

    Carbon market?  What, exactly is the commercial value of carbon, other than a scheme to transfer wealth?

     

    My interlocutor requested evidence of affordable, acceptable interventions from Government that worked.

    That they are affordable is self-evident - I suspect even you would scoff at anyone attempting to blame US Government debt on carbon credits. That it is acceptable is similarly self-evident - the markets have now risen to the point where carbon is viable, meaning that the corporate world has accepted them as a worthwhile investment in the future.

    The question is whether the reduction of carbon in the atmosphere will work. Given that the models that were used to make the case for the carbon markets appear to have significantly UNDER-ESTIMATED the impacts of anthropogenic global warming and severe weather impacts are upon us already, there really isn't a case for "laissez faire" or "status quo" economics.

  5. On 9/10/2023 at 3:20 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

    Given that I've been asking someone, anyone on your side of the divide for ages to provide examples of what governments are doing that is affordable, acceptable and works to deal with climate change, but received narry a reply, IMO you are taking the mickey.

    Really? What could be easier?

    Have you observed how renewable energy has taken over that market for example? That's basically the result of government intervention funding the research and startups and putting priority on development of alternative non-fossil fuel energy.

    Have you observed the carbon markets? For the first time they're now becoming economically viable in terms of the market price providing sufficient incentive and funding. That's again the result of government intervention then the markets realizing that this is a worthwhile investment and taking it on.

  6. 1 hour ago, impulse said:

    It's the GOP that's leading state efforts to keep cities from banning gas appliances:

     

    Other progressive cities followed suit with similar bans (on gas appliances). San Francisco passed its own ban in 2020. New York City became the largest US city to pass a version in 2021, with New York Gov. Kathy Hochul vowing to pass a statewide law that would ban natural gas by 2027.

    But other municipalities looking to take similar action are running into a brick wall. Twenty states with GOP-controlled legislatures have passed so-called “preemption laws” that prohibit cities from banning natural gas.

     

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/17/politics/natural-gas-ban-preemptive-laws-gop-climate/index.html

     

    The GOP seems to believe in choice and letting consumers decide.  If you read the article, the cities that banned gas appliances are the usual lefty led swirlers.  You know, the ones swirling down the toilet of lefty policies.

    If we're going to go down the path of "find the farthest Left/Right example and put that up as an exemplar" then there's not really much point in discussion. Do you think it likely I could find the opposite example in some podunk county or state? Of course I could, but it doesn't advance the discussions.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3815311-wyoming-lawmakers-propose-ban-on-electric-vehicle-sales/
     

    I have addressed your points, howsabout you address mine? This is always the way debate goes in TV, someone on the Right makes a point, we on the Left rebut it and ask a pertinent question, the person on the Right ignores that and pursues the next line of "whataboutism" or some other deflection. Proper debate proceeds more like a tennis match, whereas the posters on the Right proceed as if it is golf, where two different players are at the same place but playing on different holes without reference to each other.

  7. 9 minutes ago, impulse said:

    How's the weather down there in Bizarro World? 

     

    Where up is down, cold is hot, east is west, and the right is the party trying to ban gas appliances and gas cars.

     

    So no rebuttal to the factual points made about Republican Party policy?

     

    The Democrats are not trying to "ban" gas cars, they're offering incentives for people to switch to more climate-friendly alternatives. You know, like the way Western Government policies offer companies massive incentives to continue to produce fossil fuels. Notice the difference? The Right try to prop up fossil fuels despite the obvious damage they cause to society (first observed accurately in the studies of those same fossil fuel companies in the 70's) and their method to provide incentives is to provide free money to companies. How much free money is being provided to prop up the fossil fuel industry? Oh, a MERE 7 TRILLION DOLLARS OR 7% OF GLOBAL GDP IN 2022!!!!!!!!!!! How's that square with your ideas?

     

    https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/climate-change/energy-subsidies

     

    As to "ban gas appliances", let's stick to the facts, shall we?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/13/war-gas-stoves-house-gop-ban/70297193007/

     

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  8. On 9/6/2023 at 12:10 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

    Another reason to vote Trump.

    Because it's a core principle of conservative economics to try to overcome market forces with legislation! Because businesses need intervention from the government to function efficiently and correctly!

     

    LOL. Sad how lost the Right has become. There is no more "policy", just slavish devotion to a Cult of Personality.

  9. 14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

    You don't seem to have asked me that question , I have looked back through this thread and you haven't asked me a question and I have looked on my notifications list and you don't seem to have replied to me before , let alone asking me a question .

       The reason why I have "declined" to  answer your question, is because you haven't asked me a question .

     

    Perhaps it was another poster. These are rolling discussions. I asked the question, you're on the other side of the rolling discussion, figured you could probably answer it too.

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