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4 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

i don't own a restaurant but i believe the owner! if the canadian dude  was telling the trutth he should show the bill that he had paid

Yeah, right. Show me the bill you got from the last restaurant you ate at and paid in cash. Exactly.

7 hours ago, Tug said:

Horrible but sadly not surprising given what the Israeli did in Gaza just sad ???? 

Okay. Then please apply this standard any time any innocent people are murdered by terrorists for political purposes. 

Thousands killed at the World Trade Center? Terrible, but not really surprising given what the Americans did in the Middle East. 

129 French kids killed at the Batoclan concert for Ariana Grande? Not surprising given how the French treated the Algerians or discriminate against Muslims in the Banlieus.

Just keep that energy for every time some completely innocent person is killed because of someone else's political ideology. I'm sure it's mere coincidence that this vitriol seems only reserved for Israel, clearly the worst and most undemocratic country in the Middle East with the least respect for Human Rights. The "but" is just another way to dehumanize the victims who were not targeted for anything any individual one of them did. So don't be discriminatory, add that "but" to every innocent victim is in your comments.

All of you who wrote or liked this comment should really reflect about your internal dialogue and whether you actually do harbor some sentiment against a certain race of people. Or, like I said, bring out them "buts" as a response to every tragedy.

1 hour ago, Tropposurfer said:

Got zero time for Israel or Israelis. A nation that has turned into the fascists they loathed and suffered under both pre and during WWII.

I'm NOT an anti-semite but I am a pro-humanitarian.

Remember the journalist woman they shot (state sanctioned murder) a while back then lied through their teeth about it ?!

Ya spend about 80 years disenfranchising and disempowering a group to the point they have no space, no peace, no rights, no place in their own ancestral lands and then cry foul that they are bad people and terrorists when they literally go mad from the abuse and react to your abuse by fighting back. Israel has systematically terrorised systematically carried out a Pogram of genocide against the Palestinian people (we saw last night go into homes and beat, arrest, shackle and kill 9 Palestinians in their homes) and have been aided and abetted by lots of Western countries in doing so.

I got zero time for America or Americans. A nation fillled with fascists with guns who routinely oppress black, brown and Jewish people and have turned into the facsists they loathed.
I'm NOT an anti-American, but I am a pro-humanitarian.
Remember the journalist Gary Webb who they shot (state sanctioned murder) a while back then lied through their teeth about it ?! 
Ya spend about 400 years enslaving, disenfranchising and disempowering a group to the point where they have no space, no peace, no rights, no place in their own lands that they were forcibly relocated to, and cry foul that they are bad people and criminals when they literally go mad from the abuse and react to your abuse by fighting back. The USA has systematically terrorised systematically carried out a Pogrom of genocide against the Black people (we saw today the horrible beating to death of the guy in Memphis) and have been aided and abetted by lots of Western White Supremacists in doing so.

You are an anti-Semite singling out Israel and applying a uniform label on Israelis simply for being citizens of a country whose government you dislike. You talk about Israel, yet have nothing to say about the dozens of countries with far worse laws, human rights records, killings of journalists and repression of their population or minorities.
 

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Ask Prayut.....

I think Prawit is the watch expert, no? 

24 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Being elected makes her better in exactly one way, not "in every conceivable way".

It seems you only see black or white. There is a lot of grey out there.

You are missing the point - it is not relevant whether she or they are good or bad since the basic system that gets that person into power has no barriers to bad candidates or expressways for good ones but ensures only the transfer of power to those who are armed. All else is irrelevant. As Churchill noted,  “democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried.” Whenever the military interrupts the democratically elected government and installs their own people, they stop any progress and democracy has to restart from the beginning again while the only politicians who continue throughout the process remain the same old corrupt ones. Therefore there is an assurance of the repeat of the cycle.

Your "solution" was wishful thinking that you threw at the wall on your way out the door. Bit rich calling me out for lack of nuance in that circumstance.

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How do you know that she would be "better than the current lot in every conceivable way"?

That might be what you hope. And maybe she will be better.

But maybe she will just follow the orders of her criminal father and continue with his corrupt politics. And maybe that will lead to more protests and another coup. The rest is history.

 

It's time that Thailand gets out of the Shinawatra/coup circle.

Thailand should have a government with honest and competent politicians who work for Thais and Thailand.

That is obviously difficult and not that easy. Electing the same known corrupt people (or any of their family members) will bring the same outcome. Don't do it if you want that something changes to the better.

 

The fact that she was elected and can lose the following election based on her performance makes her better in every conceivable way than this lot. Because they won't even let that litmus test be performed, they manufacture the protest and excuses and simply take over power as soon as they know they can get away with it and hold it until they know they simply can't retain it any longer. Then, having ensured they're protection via the undemocratic constitution their main stooge Meechai wrote, they just let the current mob (accurate description) retire on their ill-gotten gains and let the next class take their turn. They also rig the system so that they can't be unelected and utilize their unelected buddies in the Senate and Courts to ensure their power continues indefinitely until enough people are killed by the soldiers to overturn it. This is in every single way worse than anything that can be done by Shin's latest relative.

As to your solution...did you spend even 10 seconds of thought on that one? Yes, "Thailand should have a government with honest and competent politicians who work for Thais and Thailand." Wow. What insight. Who might these people be and what happens when one of them comes anywhere near the levers of power? Where's Thanathorn these days, for example? So you set in place a fantasy that the most Pollyannish Thai nationalist would burst out laughing at in terms of plausibility, then say "that is obviously difficult and not that easy." Not that easy? Unless the new leader is riding in on a unicorn spreading fairy dust that magically turns the boys in green to oompah loompahs yeah, not happening. So the real question for those of us living in the real world in the real country of Thailand is, do you prefer the military seizing power and holding it arbitrarily whenever they feel like it and force hundreds to eventually die for them to briefly relinquish it, or do you prefer election of the ones who are voted for despite their obvious flaws?

If you prefer the military to maintain power in preference to the Shins and other electable people in Thailand, then make that case. You've instead made no case at all.


 

On 12/20/2022 at 4:40 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Nice to have people who don't always conform to the rules of what is socially acceptable and says what they think without being concerned about up setting people and losing his job and having to apologise

Nice to have people stir up hatred against others whom they haven't even ever met and give them a megaphone to do it with so that the completely unhinged and unfounded calumny is broadcast to millions. It's really great and such a boon to society. What a nice person you must be too!

15 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thanks for that. I feel quite flattered that you should take such a personal interest in my on forum comments, rather than just passing them by.

Have a nice day.

You're welcome! You're a pretty regular poster in these sorts of threads on the opposite side and unlike many of your colleagues you actually respond to the points made so it's possible to have discussions with you. I appreciate that because it's generally just frustrating trying to get other perspectives when it devolves into evasion and insults. For example, I agree with your response to the other part of that post, although it was kind of contradicting your original post.

15 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While wildly off topic, you mentioned it so I should respond. I care about life on planet earth, but humankind has destroyed the environment and will pay the price for doing so. IMO it's about far more than climate change, and more about overpopulating and over exploiting resources. Likely to be wars over water to come in the future.

If it should come to the worst for human kind, the planet will survive quite well without us destroying the environment.

Oh, well, you didn't say that in your post I responded to but rather indicated the opposite. I agree with you, and wasn't even going to mention biodiversity collapse, but appreciate that you basically pointed in that direction which indeed is an even deeper problem.

I am also in agreement that the planet will survive the human virus.

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Eg, I'm sure the GOP wouldn't have cancelled the Keystone pipeline when half done, and are not, far as I know, all in on the climate thing.

 

BTW if a few people armed with sticks threaten the fundamental tenants of democracy, that democracy is too fragile to last anyway.

I actually watched the invasion live on tv, and I saw hundreds wandering around congress building like tourists, and if they were "looking to overthrow the government" I'm a Martian. IMO they were a mob angry with the government in Washington, but that was a far as it went for most. If they'd been a BLM mob they would probably have burned the place down.

I enjoy our discussions, but sometimes you really do make silly points. The "climate thing" is not anything currently under dispute from knowledgeable scientists as you are well aware. Yes, yes, there were a tiny minority to object who signed the Barrington thing, whatever. It made no difference in swaying anyone's science. The consequences of this are so profound they override practically every other consideration, unless of course you simply don't care about life on earth after you depart.

The last bit is a new one, "hypothetical whataboutism". Congrats on a new means of non-argumentative BS.

On 12/9/2022 at 10:22 AM, Pattaya Spotter said:

24 right-wing larpers and a cosplay "prince" are a threat to the German State... and going to storm the Reighstag and overthrow the government ????

Well, let's see whether this latest attempt to minimize the Fascist threat by pretending it was cosplayers has any validity?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/09/celebrity-chef-suspects-germany-rightwing-coup-plot-reichsburger

Oh, what's this? Over 50 people arrested now and weapons found in more than 50 locations. A current judge and former Far-Right MP who had access to the Reichstag is among those arrested. Sounds like very serious LARPers! Throw them all in jail and throw away the keys, there should be no place in this world for Fascist scum.